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I have no idea of how even a Gold Edition could fix Queen Trainer, which is such a mess of a game even after 3 years of development. The game is grindy as fuck, the corruption system of Jasmin is awful and there are too many side characters with little to no content.

The game is even worse than the original Princess Trainer at its base, which may not sound like much considering that even at its worst PT was still a pretty solid porn game... for the standards of the West 10 years ago. A game like QT releasing as it did on 2024, practically 2025, is unacceptable.

What could AKabur even do to fix such a mess of a game? The man hasn't done anything good that wasn't simply a VN with a funny story, charming characters and gorgeous art, the game mechanics SC34 were also hated, which lead to Akabur mostly abandoning them during the later half of the game's development.

In retrospect, it was a good thing that SC34's development was made by released update by update, that way Akabur was able to act on the feedback he got from players. And clearly the mistake that doomed QT was not doing the same or at least no releasing a much bigger demo or beta version of the game so that most of the players could see what a disaster he was cooking.

So if Akabur has finally learned his lesson after WT, SC34 and now QT, would trying to salvage what little he can for a possible QT: Gold? I don't think so. And twice over Akabur has shown he cannot be trusted with Trainer games at the moment, so I don't think either an April or Ashelin games would be successful, especially since on their own they're considerably less popular fapbait than the likes of Lara Croft, Hermine and even Jasmine.

If it was up to me I'd vote instead for a Princess Trainer sequel, but I realize that the storyline set up in SC34 and now QT needs to be resolved, and since Akabur has shown more motivation for it, that would be the better choice.
It seems unlikely it will come from Akabur, as when I voted in the poll yesterday it was a long way behind the other two options, which were running neck and neck. Though he did say that he wouldn't necessarily feel bound by the result of the poll.
lol, that definitely means no QT: Gold for sure. This poll is basically just him asking to be validated on wanting to get back to SC34
 
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3 years from now: Queen Trainer Gold. All the new content is exclusively farming related. More varieties of crops, more decorations, gather resources and craft sprinklers, even build a stable so you can buy lifestock from Maslab, and also a brand new fishing mechanic with plenty of weather based angler quests :LOL:.

Atamasha still teasing about how her route didn't make the cut though ;)

I would kinda love that from a trolling perspective :geek:
Atamasha contents in Platinum Edition on Year 6
 

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how is april not as big as jasmin? turtles is still a relevant IP today while aladdin is pretty much dead as a franchise aside of the awful live action movie everybody hated.

what he needs to do in my opinion is make another trainer game, focus on one character (because that way he can create enough non chibi art so at least one character is satisfying) and focus on corruption. basically witch trainer but without cutting corners this time.
 

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Feedback for QT was cold overall, so I think he might understood at least some of his mistakes. He already told that there will be no more games with too much "game" mechanics as in QT. Poll options (and the fact he made a poll) also point that he had some reflections after criticism. I'm very disappointed with QT either, but stil have some small hope that proper trainer game is possible. Currently two winning options are SC2 or trainer game, but SC2 is ~10% higher, for now.
Nah mate, I don't think this guy is able to learn on anything or he just doesn't care at all. Back when The Witch Trainer was released, Akabur got tons of hate due to how bad the game was in terms of content. He lost more than 50% of his income on patreon since then. What do you think he did with all this experience? Right, added more pointless game mechanics and chibis to Princess Trainer Gold Edition. Then SC34 where all girls' acitivities like dance, strip, webcam stuff are chibis again. Then there's QT, which I don't even want to talk about.
The guy loooooves them fucking chibis, this shit won't go anywhere. Same with the side game mechanics. He'd rather spend another 3 years on adding rpg fighting system and moon phases or other shit like that to QT Gold Edition than draw a few CGs. So no, I don't believe any feedback would affect his vision. He'll keep doing the same crap he did before and nothing will change.
 
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Haha good one. Now remember his The Witch Trainer which was focused on one character and had only one CG at the end of the game, while the rest of the porn content was chibis :KEK:
that's why i said "without cutting corners" but tbh at least witch trainer had full body art of hermione which QT doesn't have.

you know what QT reminds me of? anyone remember smersh (i think that was his name), he was a buddy of akabur and also made an unfinished game and i have the same problem with his game that i have with QT, it's too much text only with no art
 

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Haha good one. Now remember his The Witch Trainer which was focused on one character and had only one CG at the end of the game, while the rest of the porn content was chibis :KEK:
You're right about that, that's a perfect description of the game. But that's also the part which confuses me. Queen Trainer get's a lot of hate here - I actually enjoy it - but if you don't like it for its Chibi content that's a valid opinion to have (though it also has the most CG second only to SC34, just sayin).

But what's all that "Akabur sucks now!", "Bring back the old Akabur", etc. about? Witch Trainer is pretty much the fan favorite and it was all Chibi all the time, relentless grind, and only ending CGs. What did folks expect? That Akabur would suddenly make a game that's unlike the games he's making? If there's anything he changed about previous games, it that this one features actually working game mechanics - that's a first. Aside from that it's really the kind of game one would expect from Akabur.

Or did people think he'd suddenly make Witch Trainer Silver, only with his much higher quality art, as if that was doable for a project of his size? I don't get it...
 

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that's why i said "without cutting corners" but tbh at least witch trainer had full body art of hermione which QT doesn't have.

you know what QT reminds me of? anyone remember smersh (i think that was his name), he was a buddy of akabur and also made an unfinished game and i have the same problem with his game that i have with QT, it's too much text only with no art
That was broken hearts bordello right? Wasn't the problem with that one, that basically Akabur was doing 80% of the art, and that way it obviously couldn't go anywhere, if you consider Akaburs creation process.
 
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That was broken hearts bordello right? Wasn't the problem with that one, that basically Akabur was doing 80% of the art, and that way it obviously couldn't go anywhere, if you consider Akaburs creation process.
yeah that was it. the thing is, if it's a porn game and you are just describing things via text without showing it like for example "so and so got her tits out and then they fucked" it just sucks. that was what broken hearts bordello suffered from massively and that's my problem with QT. it's butter scraped over too much bread.
 

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yeah that was it. the thing is, if it's a porn game and you are just describing things via text without showing it like for example "so and so got her tits out and then they fucked" it just sucks. that was what broken hearts bordello suffered from massively and that's my problem with QT. it's butter scraped over too much bread.
I totally see that. And if your going for porn, Akabur probably isn't your best option - not by a far.
His niche is more like adult oriented erotika with a main focus on the comedy. When you're in the mood for that you'll have a good time. If on the other hand you're sitting they're like "Damm, fuck already, what the hell!" - than he'll only frustrate you.

I know from experience I played his games in both moods.
 

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how is april not as big as jasmin? turtles is still a relevant IP today while aladdin is pretty much dead as a franchise aside of the awful live action movie everybody hated.

what he needs to do in my opinion is make another trainer game, focus on one character (because that way he can create enough non chibi art so at least one character is satisfying) and focus on corruption. basically witch trainer but without cutting corners this time.
Mutant Ninja Turtles is nowhere near as big as Aladin. Turtle is big, in US, but Aladin is among biggest films of all time, either top 5,10 or 20 globally, and films goes around more than localized tv/comic series. People of any age and gender, anywhere, anytime for the last 30 years, would recognize Aladdin more then Turtle Ninja, by a huge magnitude.

Turtles also has reboot and remake that didnt take off or hated, just like Aladdin.

And while the porn industry has their own preferences, Jasmine is still favored. there are far more Jasmine than April porn.

And Jasmine is also writer's favorites, I havents seen April but way too much Jasmine fanfics, not only in tumblr.

Pretty sure doubling down on a single 1 characters without anyone else was Witch Trainer's top complains. He did made it work but it would have been better if there was a "world" and side characters to walk around like Princess Trainer. There a mod for that and it become real popular.
 

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Mutant Ninja Turtles is nowhere near as big as Aladin. Turtle is big, in US, but Aladin is among biggest films of all time, either top 5,10 or 20 globally, and films goes around more than localized tv/comic series. People of any age and gender, anywhere, anytime for the last 30 years, would recognize Aladdin more then Turtle Ninja, by a huge magnitude.

Turtles also has reboot and remake that didnt take off or hated, just like Aladdin.

And while the porn industry has their own preferences, Jasmine is still favored. there are far more Jasmine than April porn.

And Jasmine is also writer's favorites, I havents seen April but way too much Jasmine fanfics, not only in tumblr.

Pretty sure doubling down on a single 1 characters without anyone else was Witch Trainer's top complains. He did made it work but it would have been better if there was a "world" and side characters to walk around like Princess Trainer. There a mod for that and it become real popular.
I would like to add that in comparison to April, or Jasmin, Hermione is an hole other level of recognizeability - so the one character he choose is like uber tier from a brand recognition standpoint.
 

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I totally see that. And if your going for porn, Akabur probably isn't your best option - not by a far.
His niche is more like adult oriented erotika with a main focus on the comedy. When you're in the mood for that you'll have a good time. If on the other hand you're sitting they're like "Damm, fuck already, what the hell!" - than he'll only frustrate you.

I know from experience I played his games in both moods.
yeah i agree with what you said but i can say at least for me WT und PTG were great porn games and while WT could have used more CG, the art that was there + the writing delivered for me. SC34 is where it started for me that akabur stopped delivering in the porn aspect. big part of it might have been the big focus on slowly corrupting hermione which is for sure my favourite thing in porn games.
 
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yeah i agree with what you said but i can say at least for me WT und PTG were great porn games and while WT could have used more CG, the art that was there + the writing delivered for me. SC34 is where it started for me that akabur stopped delivering in the porn aspect. big part of it might have been the big focus on slowly corrupting hermione which is for sure my favourite thing in porn games.
I can see that. If corruption specifically is your thing that's kinda obvious. For the longest time PT and WT didn't work for me at all. It was, to much text (skip), to much grind, not enough porn, and a bunch of pseudo RPG mechanics - I would much rather have had something straight forward all porn, all the time, like Mating Season.

For me it actually clicked with Star Channel - hey this is really funny, the text is actually worth reading, the porn is kinda secondary. And as I went back to the other games with that change in mind I actually enjoyed them - because they had been funny all along. And the sex obviously is in there - it's just if you measure it by play time it takes up a small double digits percentage.

But that's kinda alright with me. I enjoy the games a lot by taking them for what they are.

PS: Great choice of avatar by the way, I wonder if anybody remembers the Sex Kitten series still.
 
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how is april not as big as jasmin? turtles is still a relevant IP today while aladdin is pretty much dead as a franchise aside of the awful live action movie everybody hated.
The newer versions of the TMNT do not feature the version of April that people find attractive and want to fuck. The latest media to feature that version is the TMNT beat 'em up game from 2022.
 
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