[Question] How much time/money would it take to de-NTR an NTR game?

[Pervtron3000]

[Not-The-Point] First of all, no hate @ the NTR fans. I get that its a valid kink and that lots of you have a diverse set of reasons for being into it.

[Not-The-Point] I beg that you put yourselves in the shoes of many others who find it psychologically disturbing, and very distracting from many other kinks that can be found in the darker side of H games. Dark H games with all the great art and great VAs with high production quality.

[Not-The-Point] This isn't a suggestion that NTR games be less about NTR, or have the NTR elements diminished, or that there should be fewer NTR games.

[The-Point] This is a question mostly for game developers, for an NTR game, or for a game that has NTR or cheating elements, how much time/money/energy would be required to simply remove those elements (if necessary), or change them so that the person being cheated on/cucked/NTR'd isn't part of the story in a big way?
I've done an analysis of this for my favorite H game of all time, Taimanin Yukikaze 1, because I know it pretty intimately by now, and theres so many aspects of it that I love love love.

In this game, Tatsurou Akiyama, the NTR character, does have a lot of dialog focused at him, by him, and 1 particular scene he is tightly integrated into. I played through the whole game twice making detailed notes about where the NTR was mentioned, featured, or based around.
I had actually developed a plan to de-NTR Taimanin Yukikaze 1 that would actually go unnoticed for people who don't speak Japanese. For people that rely on english subtitle packs from Rattanman, for example, its possible to almost completely delete Tatsurou from the game with nothing other than modifying the script and scene manifest files. This works because for those of us that don't know what the japanese VA's are saying anyways, they may as well be saying what the english subtitles say is going on.
There is even a way to keep the scenes that Tatsurou is featured in, in the game, by simply making him a no-named Taimanin agent checking up on Yuki and Rinko's mission.

Now, I never went through with this, because I just have solution for removing the distraction of Tatsurou that works well enough for me, and modifying the script and scene manifest files manually is so meticulous and monotonous labour that its just not worth it to do for myself.

But for those of you who have developed games and do have powerful game editing tools, how much extra effort do you think it would take to thanos-snap the NTR from a game? How much voice acting would typically be cut or need to be recorded with more than more flavor? Would it be a monumental task?
Do you think it could be a profitable feature to include as a premium for those who typically avoid NTR but enjoy dark H?

Thanks!

 

[Meaning Less]

There is the opportunity here for a modder to just edit the game and make content avoidable, not just ntr but every sensitive kink.

It's pretty easy to just remove content from a game. But probably most people don't care which is why we don't see these mods but nothing is stopping you to learn how to mod renpy games and be the change you want to see.

 

[moudy]

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But for those of you who have developed games and do have powerful game editing tools, how much extra effort do you think it would take to thanos-snap the NTR from a game? How much voice acting would typically be cut or need to be recorded with more than more flavor? Would it be a monumental task?
Do you think it could be a profitable feature to include as a premium for those who typically avoid NTR but enjoy dark H?

Thanks!

It really does depend on the game in question and what to do with the cut content. Tehre are games that are solely focused on NTR in their game and cutting that out, only leaves in the dialog (which is doable with minimal effort for sure)the story wouldn't make sense. But there are other issues with it, for example (but not limited to)
-> what if there is pregnancy in the game? Would that need to be cut too? If so, that can be a whole other headache, if not, who's to be the father of the child?
-> What if the game is about an NTR that happens in the game? Cutting for example a rape scene out from the beginning of the game because it's an integral part of the game might be a headache to do and fix the story so it makes sense
-> What if the game is about a son/daughter and the mother/father still sleeps with the other parent? I mean, that could be cut out but is the story gonig to make sense? Would the story need to be changed so that the father/mother is just MIA?

A general rule of thumb is, for every 1 hour playtime in Renpy game, you need 4-5 hours of coding, writing and all of that stuff... and that is if you KNOW 100% how the story is going to go... which usually it's not.

And this is not even touching on the voice acting.

 

[Rafster]

Eliminating any kink from a game, can be easy, or a plain hell, depending on how much the game relies on it. I guess, depending on the developing tool, you can find a modder, or another dev, to mod the game in question (if that's even possible. I only know twine HTML games, I have no fucking idea on ren'py or rpg maker) but the amount of writing, coding and testing would be big.

I don't know if you can find anyone up to it.

 

[desmosome]

Tatsurou NTR is the best thing about Yukikaze though . Rinko and Yuki's characterization revolves quite heavily around the fact that they both love this super cuck.

As for your question, it will obviously depend on how core the NTR is to the plot and scenes. TY1 wouldn't be that hard to change. TY2 might be a bit harder.

 

[yihman1]

It mostly depends on two factors.
1) How big is the game?
2) How much of the content is NTR?

If it is very heavy on NTR content it is probably pointless at some point to try to remove it all... However, it may be possible if you remove the cuck guy and just turn it into the story of some slut. That is technically not NTR.

If the NTR is avoidable already then it doesn't really need a patch or mod.

Giving any sort of estimate on how much work would be involved is impossible to determine.

How long it would take can range from:

-No time needed it is already avoidable.
-Just a few minutes of modding.
-A great deal of modding that could take a very long time.
-Impossible without remaking it entirely.

 

[Winterfire]

Once a game has been touched by the vile hands of NTR, it is already too late. Its sickness already got in the depths of your code, and darkened the pixels of every render. The only solution is to delete everything, run a virus scan, play a holy game with all virgin heroines, then start over from scratch.

 

[Icarus Media]

Once a game has been touched by the vile hands of NTR, it is already too late. Its sickness already got in the depths of your code, and darkened the pixels of every render. The only solution is to delete everything, run a virus scan, play a holy game with all virgin heroines, then start over from scratch.

Imma dodge this bait post like...

 

[Obscure]

Just rip the art, shuffle it around and remake the game from scratch. The question then becomes, "how much money would it take to make a game minus the cost of the porn art."

The answer is between 150$ and 3 months and Infinite$ and Infinite Months.

But... Then it becomes making a game with stolen art. Which people do.

But that kinda hamstrings your ability to financially recoup your time investment.

And begs the question as why you didn't just make your own game?

 

[mickydoo]

Half hour or so depending the weather, and I dunno, fiddy dollar.

 

[DiviDreamer]

Depends,
how big game is and how much NTR in game
if simple scene deletion is enough to de-NTR game then it take less time and fairly easy to make
if you need "fill" deleted scene with story and art or CG then its as hard as make half of new game.

 

[God3333]

Once a game has been touched by the vile hands of NTR, it is already too late. Its sickness already got in the depths of your code, and darkened the pixels of every render. The only solution is to delete everything, run a virus scan, play a holy game with all virgin heroines, then start over from scratch.

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