Rants...

[anne O'nymous]

Just going to throw this in so you can adjust it slightly, Mass Effect...

Fallout New Vegas. With the vanilla game, you can have sex with three (or perhaps four, don't remember precisely) girls. You'll be told that you'll have sex, they you'll get a black screen, and you'll talk about how good it was. Obviously, modders were quick to change this into real sex.
Then came Fallout 4. One would believe that the many number of mod to replace the black screen in Fallout New Vegas, and the soft lewd from Mass Effect, Dragon Age, and few games like this, would have made Bethesda be a bit more graphic. Well, no, still a black screen for the few vanilla sex scenes. As if AAA studios were not aware that investors are here and the market ready...

 

[anne O'nymous]

[Sorry for the double post]

Because it's cheaper, quicker, and more profitable to simply put the video online than to create a game using the video and images from their shoot.

If it was lucrative, the porn industry would be all-in.

It was lucrative in the early age of Internet. And XXX studios massively made "games" with small parts of their movies; sometimes even filming the scenes especially for the games.

Then Internet became popular and appeared sites dedicated to porn movies and short clips. Like those sites are free, players stopped to buy those games. Why spend US$ 20-30 in a game that will have a handful of short XXX movies, that you can only access through a generally badly designed UI, when you can have thousands of longer XXX movies for free, all this served with a better UI that let you use filters to select what you'll fap to?

 

[morphnet]

Fallout New Vegas. With the vanilla game, you can have sex with three (or perhaps four, don't remember precisely) girls. You'll be told that you'll have sex, they you'll get a black screen, and you'll talk about how good it was. Obviously, modders were quick to change this into real sex.
Then came Fallout 4. One would believe that the many number of mod to replace the black screen in Fallout New Vegas, and the soft lewd from Mass Effect, Dragon Age, and few games like this, would have made Bethesda be a bit more graphic. Well, no, still a black screen for the few vanilla sex scenes.

Very true, even without the mods though the build up in the romance arcs as well of the range of choices allowed people to mostly tailor the experience to their tastes. I also went with mass effect as it had the most publicized "sex" scandals but fall out and dragon age were really good too. Wish they had done as good a job in star wars the old republic though....

As if AAA studios were not aware that investors are here and the market ready...

I agree the market is ready and that there are investors but I think only for major studios / companies. Hopefully one day for the indie / amateur scene too.

Then Internet became popular and appeared sites dedicated to porn movies and short clips. Like those sites are free, players stopped to buy those games. Why spend US$ 20-30 in a game that will have a handful of short XXX movies, that you can only access through a generally badly designed UI, when you can have thousands of longer XXX movies for free, all this served with a better UI that let you use filters to select what you'll fap to?

I think another problem was advertising, even where I live I heard about and got my hands on artworx strip poker but never heard of the interactive ones until my mid 30's. Even on the BBS we passed around the basic animated clips or the "favorite topless celeb" disks but didn't know about the others, so advertising and word of mouth failed there.

 

[anne O'nymous]

I think another problem was advertising,

More than a question of advertising, it's a possibility to advertise. It's games, but it don't just include porn content, it include small porn movies... It's obvious that you'll not be able to advertise for those games as you would for any other video game.

I have the chance to live in a country relatively lax when it come to adult content. One or two months after XXX studios started to make games, we already had one magazine dedicated to them ; then, from memory, two others followed. One was even sold with computer magazines, because only showing censored content. The other(s) was/were sold with magazines like Playboy, so less visible unless you were already searching for lewd content.
We also had a company that specialized in selling games through mail orders, that had a part of its catalog dedicated to those games.
But in countries more strict, I guess that either you spent tons of money to advertise in Playboy (ads surely cost a lot), or you were limited to purely porn magazines and some ads in sex shops.

This being said, they were doing it for a bit more than ten years, so I guess that they still achieved to reach a bug enough part of their public.

Even on the BBS we passed around the basic animated clips or the "favorite topless celeb" disks but didn't know about the others, so advertising and word of mouth failed there.

They were too big for BBS. Movie compression wasn't as efficient that it is now and like those games relied mostly in videos. I haven't really looked, or if I had I forgot, but I guess that most used the 700MB available in a CD. Imagine downloading this from a BBS at a range going from 14,400bps to 56,600bps, depending of your modem.

 

[Bloodpool88]

I think another part of this was covid. During the lockdowns from covid there was an uptick of, probably mostly males off work with nothing to do. They found or already knew about these kinds of games and thought that it would be a great way to supplement their lost income. They started projects, discovered it was actually work before going back to a real job and dropping their prjects.

 

[Bloodpool88]

On a different note...

Some of the games I play include beastiality content. Can anyone tell me why most(and by that i mean all the ones I've played) don't use real porn for that even if most other scenes are real porn?

 

[whowhawhy]

Some of the games I play include beastiality content. Can anyone tell me why most(and by that i mean all the ones I've played) don't use real porn for that even if most other scenes are real porn?

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2) https://f95zone.to/threads/general-rules-updated-2024-06-04.5589/

 

[Droid Productions]

Ya know, I'm surprised that the porn industry hasn't invested in these kinds of games, what with twine and other web based game engines, they could film a whole games worth of content...

Check who owns Nutaku (Mindgeek, who also owns pornhub and god knows what else)

 

[Bloodpool88]

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2) https://f95zone.to/threads/general-rules-updated-2024-06-04.5589/

So basically, post a game on f95 with real beastiality porn is prohibited and viewing such images is questionable at best in most first world areas...

 

[tooldev]

So basically, post a game on f95 with real beastiality porn is prohibited and viewing such images is questionable at best in most first world areas...

Generally speaking: F95 has always been pretty liberal with what is allowed and what not, but the areas that lead to increased focus of law enforcement are usually the ones that get outright forbidden here. So this is not about kink shaming or media (since the games are not hosted here) in the first place, but to avoid unnecessary attention that would harm all other content.