Unity Relics of Wayne: Greymoor [v0.0.9.9] [Blackroot Games]

[YogSothoth1982]

Is a harem game? or will we have to choose a LI at some point?

 

[Hollow_requiem]

Yep, I mistook Greymoor for Grayson. I thought, 'This is about Batman and Nightwing.'

See I was thinking more Damian, and since he looked older, he would be looking for "the relics of Wayne"

 

[ryg88]

Not sure if it's a bug on my end, but after the opening scene and the game asks for the MC name, the mouse can't click on it, preventing me from entering a name. Also tried to press ESC to go to the side menu but the mouse can't click on it too.

Not sure if playing on Linux with Wine has something to do with it.

 

[Dickbrain]

The game is promising, but its like the demo of an Alpha, full of game breaking bugs, i think it would have bee wiser to waite more befor releasing this, cause nobody want to come back to a game that made you experience losing progress

 

[Dickbrain]

too stupid for the jukebox XD

96 fav year 4 the chore written on the tape, 36 his age when she was born (57-36)

 

[Dickbrain]

each time i save or load someone love a little less lmao

 

[TinyWizar3d]

if you used you made AI very good job with the post to make it look like real art.

Thanks! That's because I hand drew a lot of the art and animations, but also used AI to speed up other assets and processes. So it's a marriage between the two.

 

[TinyWizar3d]

I actually find the font elegant, but I do have lazy-eye-days, lol, and I have come across a couple people requesting larger.

I guess rollback within a convo isn't nothing, but unless it can override choices, it is purely to recheck what was read ot skipped. Useful actually but doesn't solve what I was thinking about, though I am starting to doubt myself:could've been the issues with Night Driver and some other Unity games were more save-related; when and how often saving is available and how many slots there are. If it helps, the smoothest Unity sandbox game I ever played is Hail Dicktator, i'd forget it wasn't RenPy but for the vertical save list and the annoying but manageable gallery, I don't know if y'all can check the structure or code or something for inspiration.

Lewd scenes:
the worst problem I think a good looking game can fall into is somehow unsexy scenes. Sometimes something sounds so kinky and the screens are hot as hell but then there's just something missing in h-stuff. So I'd rather a short scene that's not just pretty or consistent but hot with enough built up tension than a well executed comic strip that feels bland. By the same token, I'd rather have a good few main scenes than bunch'a meh's.

An accessible booty call chick can be a time filler. For my money I'd rather have some character development and excalation to it though. Could be great, instead of just a simple-quick h-scene avenue to the overall structure, it could be a simpler LI narrative to balance the more complex stuff. Something basic like gradually learning a backstory or playing dress-up or training submissiveness or bimbofication can work.

Thanks for responding and inviting the input. I gotta disclaim not having sense of development effort so I can only share a player's perspective.

Your input is honestly very appreciated. Drsnake and I are both of the same mentality. Quality > quantity. Would much rather have a proper build up and personality to a sex scene than just straight up dive into it.

Did you get to the end of the demo? Did you feel we did a good job there? Would like as much feedback as possible to make future sex scenes live up to the potential.

Personally didn't try Hail Dicktator but I'll make sure to check it out!

 

[TinyWizar3d]

alors que dire, j'ai joué a la démo et j'aime bien. ca me fait penser aux chevaliers de baphomet.
par contre, pas mal de bug, surtout de collision comme dans le bureau, si on passe derrière le bureau on se trouve dessus !
les déplacements aussi sont bizarre, on a l'impression d'avoir un balai dans le c...
un double clic pour courir serait bien car le gars marche très lentement.
un déplacement rapide grace a la carte pourrait etre bien aussi.
peut on esperer une traduction francaise ?car ne parlant pas couramment anglais c'est pas simple pour les égnimes.

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So, what can I say? I played the demo and I liked it.
It reminds me of Broken Sword. However, there are quite a few bugs, especially collision issues like in the study; if you go behind the desk, you end up on top of it!
The movement is also strange; it feels like you have a broomstick up your... well, you know
.
A double-click to run would be nice because the guy walks very slowly. Quick movement using the map would be good too.
Can we hope for a French translation? Because not speaking fluent English, it's not easy for the puzzles.

I'm studying French so excuse me if I'm butchering these sentences completely:
Nous voulons traduire ce jeu en beaucoup de langues a l'avenir. Desole pour mon mauvais francais haha

 

[TinyWizar3d]

So many comments to go through so I guess I'll just write one post lol, thank you all so much for the amazing response!

Alright you got me with the Broken Sword vibes. There better be a puzzle where you have to get past a goat or something.
Good luck with your game I'll be keeping an eye out for further development.

Omg now I have to add a goat puzzle to the game love the throwback haha

I had teh scene in the bar hang. I reloaded after a save I'd made just before that and Jenny and Harold disappeared from the screen. But Riley continued to talk to them. It didn't really affect the rest of the gameplay.

Really appreciate you reporting this one. Can you please specify your specs/resolution when playing? Or just report it in the "Bugs" section of our Discord.

Is a harem game? or will we have to choose a LI at some point?

Ish. We're planning to have 8 different endings depending on your choices throughout the game. In one of them you can get all 3 love interests, but usually you would get conflict when you choose one LI over the other since this game is very heavily story driven.

Not sure if it's a bug on my end, but after the opening scene and the game asks for the MC name, the mouse can't click on it, preventing me from entering a name. Also tried to press ESC to go to the side menu but the mouse can't click on it too.

Not sure if playing on Linux with Wine has something to do with it.

We haven't tested the game on Linux honestly. I'll add it to the bucket list though!

The game is promising, but its like the demo of an Alpha, full of game breaking bugs, i think it would have bee wiser to waite more befor releasing this, cause nobody want to come back to a game that made you experience losing progress

Yeah I hear you. We felt kind of stressed to release this game after such a long time working on it. I hope people come back because we're only going to polish this game further and further. If you feel like it, we would love it if you could report any bug you see on our Discord or here. We want to make it the best possible game we can.

 

[Bumbledore]

96 fav year 4 the chore written on the tape, 36 his age when she was born (57-36)

ohhhhh got the first two right und always thought her age XD

 

[drsnake]

each time i save or load someone loves a little less lmao

Thanks for the report, This should be fixed in the next update.

In detail: i analyzed the code and i found some timing issues where relationship values are being restored during load. Triggering false notification popups. It doesn't affect your actual save game, it just seems like it does

 

[maeoma]

Your input is honestly very appreciated. Drsnake and I are both of the same mentality. Quality > quantity. Would much rather have a proper build up and personality to a sex scene than just straight up dive into it.

Did you get to the end of the demo? Did you feel we did a good job there? Would like as much feedback as possible to make future sex scenes live up to the potential.

Personally didn't try Hail Dicktator but I'll make sure to check it out!

Is titjob in the game or a planned kink? ALso I think POV styel sex scenes are primary

 

[YogSothoth1982]

Ish. We're planning to have 8 different endings depending on your choices throughout the game. In one of them you can get all 3 love interests, but usually you would get conflict when you choose one LI over the other since this game is very heavily story driven.

Okay, I don't think I'm interested in the game, I'm not a big fan of choosing between LIs.

 

[ryg88]

We're planning to have 8 different endings depending on your choices throughout the game.

Sounds like the entire game has already been outlined with the endings in mind. That really helps prevent writing issues along the way. Plus, if the penultimate scenes leading to the endings are already outlined, then that's better.

Still though, 8 endings? And choices that lead to them? That's gonna really increase development time somewhere in the middle of game development, as the branches diverge and become more complicated, the writing tends to blow up too. Gonna take a while to write all that.

As other users have spoken about the issue in other games:

https://f95zone.to/threads/ntr-mobile-v0-21-6-nosyfellow.238597/post-18006920

People inexperienced in writing can be very surprised by how fast things can balloon when you start to add variation.

Let say that you have a 20.000 thousand words kinetic novel with no choice at all from start to finish. Which is around 1 hour of "reading" and I'd say pretty decent when it come to a completed VN

Let say now that you add illusory choice that do not impact the ending but momentarely change dialogue, let's say 20 of those. Good you just added at least 2.000 words up to 4.000 words.

22.000 to 24.000

Now imagine you add 1 major variation with a completely new ending mid way through? Well you'll be lucky to reuse much content above the 10.000 original mark, and you still have ten illusory variation to write too! So that add what? anywhere between 9.000 and 12.000?

31.000 to 36.000

But how you want to add another variation on both path for a good and bad ending at the middle point of the divergent paths now! So that way you got four ending! You can add just another 9.000 to 12.000 words!

40.000 up to 48.000 words

Now let's go absolutely mad and say you want to add another main branch with the same bad and good ending ? That's 18.000 to 24.000 more words!

You're game is now ranging from 58.000 up to 72.000 words !

If you're in the upper range?

Congratulation, you're 6k away from having written the equivalent of Harry potter the philosopher stone.
And from start to finish on any one path you're game is STILL one hour long. You merely added hours of replayability.

This ballooning is in part WHY there's a LOT of dev that only update one or two path at once, especially as their game reach their middle to late stage.

Writing 2k words for one path per update, per month is decently easy for someone with no to little experience in addition to everything else. write 2k words for all 6 paths? That's 12k per update on TOP of everything else.

 

[DinoAlpaca]

After completing my first playthrough of this version, here are some of my thoughts and questions for the developers:

1) Initially, I was confused in the era the game is set in, with the playable lead driving a

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inspired car. Is this game set in the mid 20th century? Then he mentioned computers and GPS. Later on a woman named Jenny holding a smartphone, so this must be in the 21st century.

2) The presentation, art style and controls is something from the late 90's early 2000's; although my instinct was to also use the arrow keys to control the playable lead, which didn't work.

3) The MC's default clothing colour palette reminds of this playable character,

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from Shenmue. I don't suppose the MC in this game is heading to Hong Kong and China anytime soon.

4) I feel as if I must of have missed something; I met Alex (red head woman) whilst in the house after MC meets Riley (red button shirt woman) at the bar, where you fix the jukebox. The MC spoke to Alex as if he met her before, but me the player, it was my first encounter. I know on the map which you find in Grandfather Luke's study has the name Alex with 2 question marks. Alex doesn't waste time as she fellates our hero, however the choices and dialogue suggests to me that she might be something else. Still, the MC better achieve post nut clarity and a good night's sleep.

Some questions for the developers:

Q1) Since the game has voice acting, will the female characters be voice acted and will the game be fully voiced?

Q2) Will this game have various screen resolutions and a window option?

Q3) When viewing scenes from the gallery, will the moods of the female characters affect their moods in the main game? For example, after unlocking Alex's oral scene, I replayed it and chose different options where it changed her mood.

 

[TinyWizar3d]

Is titjob in the game or a planned kink? ALso I think POV styel sex scenes are primary

Still a lot of work left on this game so there's a strong chance there'll be a titjob and other kinks/POV shots etc

Okay, I don't think I'm interested in the game, I'm not a big fan of choosing between LIs.

Yeah we like that games have choices with consequences so it's definitely not for everyone.

 

[TinyWizar3d]

Sounds like the entire game has already been outlined with the endings in mind. That really helps prevent writing issues along the way. Plus, if the penultimate scenes leading to the endings are already outlined, then that's better.

Still though, 8 endings? And choices that lead to them? That's gonna really increase development time somewhere in the middle of game development, as the branches diverge and become more complicated, the writing tends to blow up too. Gonna take a while to write all that.

As other users have spoken about the issue in other games:

Fair point! I'll write my reply in a spoiler tag just in case:

Spoiler: How choices work in the game

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[TinyWizar3d]

After completing my first playthrough of this version, here are some of my thoughts and questions for the developers:

1) Initially, I was confused in the era the game is set in, with the playable lead driving a

You must be registered to see the links

inspired car. Is this game set in the mid 20th century? Then he mentioned computers and GPS. Later on a woman named Jenny holding a smartphone, so this must be in the 21st century.

2) The presentation, art style and controls is something from the late 90's early 2000's; although my instinct was to also use the arrow keys to control the playable lead, which didn't work.

3) The MC's default clothing colour palette reminds of this playable character,

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from Shenmue. I don't suppose the MC in this game is heading to Hong Kong and China anytime soon.

4) I feel as if I must of have missed something; I met Alex (red head woman) whilst in the house after MC meets Riley (red button shirt woman) at the bar, where you fix the jukebox. The MC spoke to Alex as if he met her before, but me the player, it was my first encounter. I know on the map which you find in Grandfather Luke's study has the name Alex with 2 question marks. Alex doesn't waste time as she fellates our hero, however the choices and dialogue suggests to me that she might be something else. Still, the MC better achieve post nut clarity and a good night's sleep.

Some questions for the developers:

Q1) Since the game has voice acting, will the female characters be voice acted and will the game be fully voiced?

Q2) Will this game have various screen resolutions and a window option?

Q3) When viewing scenes from the gallery, will the moods of the female characters affect their moods in the main game? For example, after unlocking Alex's oral scene, I replayed it and chose different options where it changed her mood.

1) It's in the 21st century, but in a parallel world so we reserve the freedom to just play around with the settings however we want. So yeah the main character is a bit old fashioned while the rest of the world around him is modern. Sort of a combination of the 80s/90s and current times (cause oh my gosh I loved the 80s and 90s...).

2) Adding WASD and arrow keys to move is on our bucket list

3) Very similar! This clothing set is pretty generic cause we were aiming for a generic looking character as much as we can. Honestly the main inspiration for this guy is George Stobbart from the Broken Sword game series. There are some references out there where George is wearing similar clothing to what our guy here is wearing, but also it was a back and forth choice while designing him.

4) To which dialogue lines are you referring to? The player is brand new to the town so he doesn't know anyone, he doesn't know Alex as well.

Q1) Definitely! Our plan is to have a fully voiced game with speaking animations and a lot more interactivity. But this needs time to bake.

Q2) Yups.

Q3) Nah you're safe to choose whatever you want in the Gallery It's there for you to experiment with the different choices so you won't miss anything.

 

[ryg88]

In order to not go crazy...

Kinda makes sense it's done this way. Probably makes things easier to write and develop.
This is also how it was done by that other game A Promise Best Left Unkept: choices in a mostly linear path for the 1st 85% of the game. Then the game go to one of the multiple endings depending on the choices made.