Ren'Py Ren'py character models

[lan60000]

Hi It's been on my mind for a while now and I don't mean any offense when I ask this, but does anyone know where Ren'py developers get their character models or do they make it themselves? I don't really know which software people use to create their games, but there's so many free character models being shared from illusion game communities that if any devs wanted to, they could easily create an assemble of really good looking characters. However, from browsing through a lot of ren'py games, I can't help but feel most of these characters are almost created poorly on purpose, or a lot of them actually look similar to one another on frequent occasions. I'm really curious where the devs who create renpy games find their asset, or is there something about ren'py I'm unfamiliar of?

 

[Jaike]

If the character models you talk about are western 3d, you've seen

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models with not much, likely no customisation. Not just a Ren'py thing, enough western RPGM games use it too.

 

[Meaning Less]

The thing is, even those using illusion games don't have the skills to make custom characters, and they probably avoid using other people characters to avoid copyright issues (for some weird reason, since they are already illusion assets).

This results in many games using barely edited default characters, it is a shame but it is what it is, people really tend to take the absolute shortest path when available.

 

[lan60000]

If the character models you talk about are western 3d, you've seen

You must be registered to see the links

models with not much, likely no customisation. Not just a Ren'py thing, enough western RPGM games use it too.

i see...

 

[VMiller]

Unfortunately, many popular DAZ female models are simply ugly, with faces like the unfortunate victims of botched plastic surgeries. The most obvious example is A Wife and Mother. The main character looks like an aging woman who has spent a lot of money, but the result is bad. The face is unnatural. Her lips and nose are horrible.

Such women have too rough a face, there is no grace in it, they look more like trannies than biological women. Feminine trannies exist only in anime, but not in life.

Why do such ugly women turn out? Artists suffer from the same disease as those who have many plastic surgeries but necessarily turn into freaks. They're trying to reach the ideal. Why does everyone have such small noses like children and necessarily thick lips? Even porn actresses (except the obvious freaks) have pretty but normal human faces.

All people are not perfect in appearance, even popular movie actresses and porn actresses. We even know many cases where plastic surgery to improve appearance ruined careers. The character should not only be attractive, but above all recognizable, then we perceive him as a person.

The easiest way is this. You have to take someone's face as the basis, and morph similar ones, giving special attention to the oval of the face, the nose, and the lips. You don't have to make the character look perfectly like the original, although you probably couldn't even if you really wanted to. No one is gonna sue you.

Look up THE MOST BEAUTIFUL PORNO ACTRESSES on the Internet and you will see a huge variety of non-perfect noses, lips and eyes. Maybe some of the girls have had plastic surgery, but it's not obviously noticeable and doesn't lead to ugliness.

 

[lan60000]

The thing is, even those using illusion games don't have the skills to make custom characters, and they probably avoid using other people characters to avoid copyright issues (for some weird reason, since they are already illusion assets).

This results in many games using barely edited default characters, it is a shame but it is what it is, people really tend to take the absolute shortest path when available.

a lot of shared character plates are given out for free, and all people have to do is make minor changes such as hair, clothing, or a bit of facial changes to claim ownership of those characters. it really is a shame seeing so many decent characters but never used.

 

[lan60000]

Unfortunately, many popular DAZ female models are simply ugly, with faces like the unfortunate victims of botched plastic surgeries. The most obvious example is A Wife and Mother. The main character looks like an aging woman who has spent a lot of money, but the result is bad. The face is unnatural. Her lips and nose are horrible.

Such women have too rough a face, there is no grace in it, they look more like trannies than biological women. Feminine trannies exist only in anime, but not in life.

Why do such ugly women turn out? Artists suffer from the same disease as those who have many plastic surgeries but necessarily turn into freaks. They're trying to reach the ideal. Why does everyone have such small noses like children and necessarily thick lips? Even porn actresses (except the obvious freaks) have pretty but normal human faces.

All people are not perfect in appearance, even popular movie actresses and porn actresses. We even know many cases where plastic surgery to improve appearance ruined careers. The character should not only be attractive, but above all recognizable, then we perceive him as a person.

The easiest way is this. You have to take someone's face as the basis, and morph similar ones, giving special attention to the oval of the face, the nose, and the lips. You don't have to make the character look perfectly like the original, although you probably couldn't even if you really wanted to. No one is gonna sue you.

Look up THE MOST BEAUTIFUL PORNO ACTRESSES on the Internet and you will see a huge variety of non-perfect noses, lips and eyes. Maybe some of the girls have had plastic surgery, but it's not obviously noticeable and doesn't lead to ugliness.

i honestly think people should just stop using character models from DAZ if that's the issue. So many devs trying too hard to create "realism" don't understand the small intricacies within actual real life facial features like you described. I truly don't even give so many ren'py games a try because the character models look horrible, and it's a shame since I'm sure some of them could be interesting if these guys used other assets instead.

 

[VMiller]

i honestly think people should just stop using character models from DAZ if that's the issue. So many devs trying too hard to create "realism" don't understand the small intricacies within actual real life facial features like you described. I truly don't even give so many ren'py games a try because the character models look horrible, and it's a shame since I'm sure some of them could be interesting if these guys used other assets instead.

It's better to make a more stylized character's face, rather than aim for realism. Because the uncanny valley effect works.

 

[lan60000]

It's better to make a more stylized character's face, rather than aim for realism. Because the uncanny valley effect works.

ya. a lot of honey select and honey select 2 projects become very popular because the character models look nice and isn't trying super hard to depict actual real life features.