Bluesonic10

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That pic actually encapsulates a lot of the problems with TNH, they have a side character whose role it is to tell you that your playing the game wrong by talking down to you about it. Nightcrawler:"Heh, looks like you suck with women because you didn't bow before them and ask permission to make eye contact with her first." The game just has an almost antagonistic attitude towards the player is the feeling I get.
You seem to dickride oni a lot. TNH has done a lot right and was a passion project to fight back against shitty creators like Oni. The creator has an obnoxious path but at least he did something instead of bitch on porn forums
 

RiloLaki

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A quick question, I'm not that well versed in US slang (English is not my first language). What is the difference between
being an asshole and being a dick?
Being an asshole means that you're irritating in a passive way. Example: Refusing to go at a green light until the light turns amber and then going, leaving everyone behind you stuck at another red light.

Being a dick means that you're irritating in an active way. Example: While at the green light you exit your BMW, go up to the drivers' side window of the guy behind you, shout obscenities at them at the top of your lungs while pissing on their door and banging on the glass, and only leaving when the light is about to turn amber for the same reason as the asshole...except you take the front plate off the car you just pissed on with you so you can chuck it at some elementary school girls a few miles later knowing the cops will track down the owner of the plate for "a chat".
 

sleepingkirby

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Being a dick means that you're irritating in an active way. Example: While at the green light you exit your BMW, go up to the drivers' side window of the guy behind you, shout obscenities at them at the top of your lungs while pissing on their door and banging on the glass...
Sorry, my brain went to this.
 

Armstrong

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You seem to dickride oni a lot. TNH has done a lot right and was a passion project to fight back against shitty creators like Oni. The creator has an obnoxious path but at least he did something instead of bitch on porn forums
But you doing the same thing for TNH. Shitty creators have always existed as shitty people in general, it's just human nature.
Both games are by no means perfect, but you can enjoy either or both of them.
I bet a lot of people would like to see Oni strive to make the game better than it is now, but that's just wishful thinking. He would probably double his income if he did that, but why do that when he can just sit back and enjoy the easy money.
The TNH devs have time to improve their game and find a good balance between sandbox and story to appeal to more people and make it better than RLE could have been. I'm also curious what modders can do with that game.

I just read Null thread and one guy wanted to give his feedback(whatever you want to call it) but he was immediately skewered because he didn't praise the game or wrote an essay. Fun, right. :KEK:
 

leathermax

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You seem to dickride oni a lot. TNH has done a lot right and was a passion project to fight back against shitty creators like Oni. The creator has an obnoxious path but at least he did something instead of bitch on porn forums
You do know that Ronchon started all this as a remake of RLE with good code, in a better Ren'Py version and with updated art, right? Then the guy dropped that before it was usable and started TNH. And TNH became this thing that, while having the same premise as RLE, is completely different. It may have it's own set of good things, but it definitely doesn't have the same good things as RLE. And since it's a brach project of this game that has almost nothing of what made RLE so popular, it makes absolute sense that people dislike TNH... in the RLE thread.

Not to mention all the less than good stuff that was said about Ronchon by some of the people working with him. So the "shitty creator" label might be closer to the guy's shirt than you think.
 

leathermax

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I usually stay out of drama but...what kind of stuff was said? Mind filling me in?
This all happened back when TNH was in the earliest stages of development and I think it wasn't even called that way back then. Ronchon had a pretty bossy and overall bad attitude with people who wanted to help him with the project but who had different opinions on the matter and how to handle the elements of the game. He had a Discord with a few other guys, but for whatever exact reasons I don't know, he kinda went scorched earth on that group and disbanded it.
Although admitedly, it seems like he changed his ways, made up a new team of people to work on the game, and now he's more open to criticism. So I wouldn't bash the guy for making a mistake he corrected, but I just wanted to mention how he wasn't better than Oni in the eyes of some.
 

sleepingkirby

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This all happened back when TNH was in the earliest stages of development and I think it wasn't even called that way back then. Ronchon had a pretty bossy and overall bad attitude with people who wanted to help him with the project but who had different opinions on the matter and how to handle the elements of the game.
NGL, I remember the first time I loaded up the game and just the first few screens kinda rubbed me the wrong way. Something about it reminded me of jobs or companies I took on where the head honcho was a dick and/or doing things that are, possibly (and in some cases, allegedly) illegal.

Maybe I'm wrong or maybe I've been at too many of those jobs that I see them everywhere...

Either way, thanks for the info.
 

sleepingkirby

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That's a good idea, really. If they halved all the chat events or at least spread them more throughout the years, and we could get to the sweet buns a bit faster, at least the gameplay would be bearable.
So, it's late night here. Have a few hours before I should sleep. Not enough time to play a game. Too much time to watch random videos. Decided to work on the cheat injector. Turns out, it should be super fucking easy. The hardest part is that I'm not a python guy and I have to look up the syntax for ren'py. I'm just going to find the text of where you look at the stats (or cash) of people and turn it into a button to up the love or trust by like 100 per click. Writing the script to do the editing will probably be the hardest part.

I'm planning to do:
  • Person.trust
  • Person.love
  • Player.cash
  • Player.stamina
Anything else you guys want me to see if I can throw in or is that good for now?
 

leathermax

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So, it's late night here. Have a few hours before I should sleep. Not enough time to play a game. Too much time to watch random videos. Decided to work on the cheat injector. Turns out, it should be super fucking easy. The hardest part is that I'm not a python guy and I have to look up the syntax for ren'py. I'm just going to find the text of where you look at the stats (or cash) of people and turn it into a button to up the love or trust by like 100 per click. Writing the script to do the editing will probably be the hardest part.

I'm planning to do:
  • Person.trust
  • Person.love
  • Player.cash
  • Player.stamina
Anything else you guys want me to see if I can throw in or is that good for now?
Do abilities do something? I never unlocked any, even at lvl 2 and with 1 skill point, I couldn't get one. But in case those are fun or anything, maybe you can add a command to add skill points, or something?
 
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sleepingkirby

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Do abilities do something? I never unlocked any, even at lvl 2 and with 1 skill point, I couldn't get one. But in case those are fun or anything, maybe you can add a command to add skill points, or something?
Yeah, they do stuff like increase max stamina, number of times you can cum, how much stamina/cum you regen when you sleep or something. Like the stuff you get in RLE by leveling up.

I'll add skill points somewhere.
 
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