Ren'Py Rogue-like: Evolution [v1.6d] [Oni]

[SpikyHair]

Its worth it though, not only is it really fun, but its also cool the look of confussion people give you when they ask you whats up with the bruises and you tell them you got struck by a sword.

Until you have to explain to cops that your OB-GYN called on your husband that no, he's not abusing you, and no, you're not just saying that because you're affraid of further abuse.

Happened to a woman I used to spar with. The ironic part was that whenever they sparred, he was the one walking away with the lion's share of bruises. Trainers frequently used her to break preconceptions of the more obstinate students, because nothing teaches you to respect skill like a 5'' tall whisp of a woman laying a beatdown on your overconfident ass. Fantastic technique.

Pretty sure she'd be well known as a trainer herself by now if they didn't decide to go for more kids than a sane person should want.

Considering its a porn game, i would like it if the girls were on the correct scale wise, it would help further mark them apart and show more fun variety.
But then again, then he would have to make Emma skinnier, and fuck that, i like the white queen just as we have her.

Emma's definitely.. uh... "improved," but I can hand-wave that for the sake of variety and fetishes.

Be nice if the others were scaled to OG size, though - as you mention, variety in presentation matters.

 

[redknight1]

Anyone got massage list for all girls?

 

[Lulu66638]

Anyone got massage list for all girls?

Here it is:

Rogue: shoulders, arms, arms, hands, hands, back, hips, back, breasts, breasts

Kitty: shoulders, back, hips, thighs, calves, feet, feet, hips, ass, pussy

Emma: shoulders, neck, neck, back, hips, ass, ass, back, breasts, breasts

Laura: shoulders, arms, back, hips, thighs, calves, ass, ass, pussy, pussy

Jean: back, shoulders, neck, neck, back, hips, ass, ass, pussy, pussy

Storm: feet, calves, thighs, hips, ass, ass, pussy, ass, pussy, pussy

Jubilee: neck, shoulders, calves, feet, neck, shoulders, calves, feet, pussy, pussy

Gwen: feet, feet, calves, thighs, hips, back, hips, ass, pussy, pussy

I don't know about Betsy though, since I choosed to not move to the 1.5.

 

[I-Sin]

Here it is:

Rogue: shoulders, arms, arms, hands, hands, back, hips, back, breasts, breasts

Kitty: shoulders, back, hips, thighs, calves, feet, feet, hips, ass, pussy

Emma: shoulders, neck, neck, back, hips, ass, ass, back, breasts, breasts

Laura: shoulders, arms, back, hips, thighs, calves, ass, ass, pussy, pussy

Jean: back, shoulders, neck, neck, back, hips, ass, ass, pussy, pussy

Storm: feet, calves, thighs, hips, ass, ass, pussy, ass, pussy, pussy

Jubilee: neck, shoulders, calves, feet, neck, shoulders, calves, feet, pussy, pussy

Gwen: feet, feet, calves, thighs, hips, back, hips, ass, pussy, pussy

I don't know about Betsy though, since I choosed to not move to the 1.5.

Betsy: shoulders, neck, neck, back, hips, ass, thighs, hips, pussy, pussy

 

[armond]

Here it is:

Rogue: shoulders, arms, arms, hands, hands, back, hips, back, breasts, breasts

Kitty: shoulders, back, hips, thighs, calves, feet, feet, hips, ass, pussy

Emma: shoulders, neck, neck, back, hips, ass, ass, back, breasts, breasts

Laura: shoulders, arms, back, hips, thighs, calves, ass, ass, pussy, pussy

Jean: back, shoulders, neck, neck, back, hips, ass, ass, pussy, pussy

Storm: feet, calves, thighs, hips, ass, ass, pussy, ass, pussy, pussy

Jubilee: neck, shoulders, calves, feet, neck, shoulders, calves, feet, pussy, pussy

Gwen: feet, feet, calves, thighs, hips, back, hips, ass, pussy, pussy

I don't know about Betsy though, since I choosed to not move to the 1.5.

It's funny, all the girls I've been with it's all neck..... they liked being choked

 

[redknight1]

Here it is:

Rogue: shoulders, arms, arms, hands, hands, back, hips, back, breasts, breasts

Kitty: shoulders, back, hips, thighs, calves, feet, feet, hips, ass, pussy

Emma: shoulders, neck, neck, back, hips, ass, ass, back, breasts, breasts

Laura: shoulders, arms, back, hips, thighs, calves, ass, ass, pussy, pussy

Jean: back, shoulders, neck, neck, back, hips, ass, ass, pussy, pussy

Storm: feet, calves, thighs, hips, ass, ass, pussy, ass, pussy, pussy

Jubilee: neck, shoulders, calves, feet, neck, shoulders, calves, feet, pussy, pussy

Gwen: feet, feet, calves, thighs, hips, back, hips, ass, pussy, pussy

I don't know about Betsy though, since I choosed to not move to the 1.5.

thanks

 

[thirstyman]

thanks

just fyi, mods don't like when you reply just to say ty. a like is preferred.

 

[armond]

just fyi, mods don't like when you reply just to say ty. a like is preferred.

 

[fake.name.again]

Please tell me when you do. I wouldn't mind hearing another take on it.

Hi, I finished and just reviewed TNH, like we talked a while back. I posted it in game thread there. My Review of The Null Hypothesis Might be a better idea to move discussion to the other thread if you want to continue.

Not jarring. Just irritating. I feel like games needs to have a direct cause and effect. Like how many times you stubbing your toe shouldn't end up being the number of cities in a game (unless there's an established mechanic involved). I feel like such things take away player agency and, unless there's a real reason for it (horror games, plot twists, etc.) taking away player agency makes for a worst game.

To a degree, I agree with you. There is not much agency at all when it comes to story events in TNH. But I didn't have major problems with how they tie progression system and relationship system with storyline.

 

[yellomit]

So I just downloaded the Betsy update and she is probably the worst looking character so far.

Literally don't find her appealing at all. The one still of Doreen is more appealing than all of Betsy's stuff.

Nothing is worse than penetrating Laura though. The placement of her vag is fucking weird.

 

[Zepheral]

We all could've had this, but oni playing too much.

 

[kryanBR]

Guys, is the Oni discord active? I lost access to it, if anyone has a link can they share it?

 

[Semondemon]

Guys, is the Oni discord active? I lost access to it, if anyone has a link can they share it?

Oni doesn't have a discord m8.

 

[Zepheral]

Oni doesn't have a discord m8.

Where the only fans!?!?!

 

[Nitrodubs]

threesome actions are bugged, you cant ask anthing to the second girl.
hopefully fixed next patch

 

[Semondemon]

Where the only fans!?!?!

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That isn't an ass. It's a way to die.

 

[Dr. Coom]

That's what Rogue's ass should've been from the beginning.

 

[Armstrong]

That isn't an ass. It's a way to die.

You mean the best way to go out.

 

[Semondemon]

threesome actions are bugged, you cant ask anthing to the second girl.
hopefully fixed next patch

Dude of course they are; I'm surprised he went to K for 1.5. He's probably not gonna put anymore bug fixes out so you'll have to wait for 1.6. Honestly dunno why anyone bothers with 1.5 I know Oni had medical & family issues but he shoulda just delayed Psylocke until she was completely done. Since unlike previously he'd add a few features he added nothing besides a fake out then her basic shit. Woo.

 

[sleepingkirby]

To a degree, I agree with you. There is not much agency at all when it comes to story events in TNH. But I didn't have major problems with how they tie progression system and relationship system with storyline.

I just finished reading your review and, I think you brought up a good point.

So I would say design language was not intuitive for me, and would be clearer without icons suggesting that I'm making some crucial decision here (rejecting a girl or choosing a path for myself). Or just spell the effects like in normal choices (for example, "you encouraged Laura protectives" similar to "you gained 6 trust").

Girls can get levels, seen a notification popping up, but blink, and it is gone. Haven't found any place to check what level they are currently, nor what exactly changes with levels.

There seem to be level 5 cap for yourself, you can reach it early, and there is no indication that you can progress any further (like when you reach max trust or love), in fact you seem to still be getting XP, just bar stops moving, but It's really hard to say if it completely stops or is just progressing more slowly.

However, and I know it was already mentioned few times before, verbally and explicitly asking EVERY TIME you make any, even smallest, action during sex scenes is absolutely ridiculous and just kills the flow or excitement or spirit of play.

If the game was more communicative about how far you can get in things, like relationships, sex, etc. I would have less a problem with tying relationship progress with story progress. A lot of the limits, etc. are not intuitive for me. Like, I'm already max love, I'm already dating the person, I've already had my tongue their ass, but sex? No, that's a step too far. Gotta wait until chapter 3 (not literally. I can't remember which chapter)

I do agree with you in your review in that there are certain aspects of it that fills what RLE lacks. But it does feel unfocused. The GUI being unintuitive, the story choices giving only an illusion of choice. I'm wondering if the reverse relation should have been better. Rather than requiring chapter 3 to increase relationship, requiring a certain relationship level before being able to continue the storyline. Like "You've become Rogue's boyfriend. That means you can do chapter 2 AND 3". It's *kind of* that way in RLE in that you have to get to a certain level before you can get a key to their room or get Xavier off your back for that girl or until they tell you their backstory.

So, as a programmer, I occasionally get approached by people going "I have this idea. It's this and this and this. Wanna get in on it?" And, more often than not, I'd have to tell them 1 of a few things (or some combination thereof):
1) It already exists.
2) The problem your idea is suppose to solve, doesn't really solve the problem.
3) The problem isn't really what you think it is.
4) This is an unethical solution.
5) It's physically not possible.

I feel like The Null Hypothesis is what happens when no one tells the creator that this idea is number 1, 2 and 3. And, as much as I hate to say it, solutions that look for a problem, if it doesn't learn to pivot (correctly) or have a HUGE backing (i.e. too big to fail), often slowly get bloated and fail. A lot of learning to become a programmer isn't just learning to write code, but to understand and find the essence abstract human concepts. When you don't have that understanding of the concept you're trying to bring to code, you are often left with really bad code trying to make up for worse ideas until everything just grinds to a halt because it's too much trouble/hassle to fix/expand/work with. Like, fingers crossed, my best wishes to TNH team and I hope I'm wrong or they're the rare exception, but yeah. And, contrary to popular opinion, even if you throw a bunch of money at a problem, if it doesn't have the right people/skill/solution that can get the money, the problem will not get solved.

Which brings me back to why I'm so lenient on Oni's code. He's pivoting correctly. He's refactoring bad code. Slowly but surely. I've seen commercial products that die because they weren't able to do that. Hell, I've literally heard of someone that committed suicide because he couldn't do it right. So, again, 8 year old code that's still running and actively being improved and all being done by one person. I know people keep complaining "He's making so much money, the code should be better." But I can tell you, first hand, what he's done is pretty impressive. Because, again, how many google products have died during RLE's existence? And they had more money AND people behind it.