Ren'Py Rogue-like: Evolution [v1.64d] [Oni]

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boblicticious

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LOGhetto said:
Worst part is, the art isn't all that great and it continues to get worse on top of being essentially empty.
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Essentially, this is an 8 year old game. It has so much because it has been incrementally added to for 8 years.

The art seeming not so great is because we are spoiled for choice after 8 years worth of newer projects and a flood of talented artists trying their hand at jumping on the patreon adult games bandwagon.

The feeling of emptiness almost certainly comes from the familiarity with the game after having probably played through it dozens of times over the past 8 years. There are few surprises when we're so familiar with the mechanics and art. And each version that gets added is adding a similarly small amount of content as the updates several years ago when the whole game was smaller. The result is that each update is like the tiny tip of an iceberg compared against the large amount of content we've already been familiar with for months or even years that sits beneath the surface.

I think if someone has never seen this game before and decided to try it for the first time today, they'd be enamored with its depth and fullness.
 
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boblicticious said:
Essentially, this is an 8 year old game. It has so much because it has been incrementally added to for 8 years.

The art seeming not so great is because we are spoiled for choice after 8 years worth of newer projects and a flood of talented artists trying their hand at jumping on the patreon adult games bandwagon.

The feeling of emptiness almost certainly comes from the familiarity with the game after having probably played through it dozens of times over the past 8 years. There are few surprises when we're so familiar with the mechanics and art. And each version that gets added is adding a similarly small amount of content as the updates several years ago when the whole game was smaller. The result is that each update is like the tiny tip of an iceberg compared against the large amount of content we've already been familiar with for months or even years that sits beneath the surface.

I think if someone has never seen this game before and decided to try it for the first time today, they'd be enamored with its depth and fullness.
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They'd be enamored for about 3 or 4 hours until they realize the entire game is a sex minigame with a handful of girls inside of Ren'py prompts and beyond that, there's virtually no character events, story plot points, well written sex events. Like I said, large flash game with great X-Men Evolution art. Devs like TwistedScarlett60 have made 3 massive sandbox harem VNs inside of Ren'py in 3/4ths the time this game has been in development. I guess the two extra years was to create the stilted animations that look like two layers in PS sliding over each other.
 
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flynn0426 said:
They'd be enamored for about 3 or 4 hours until they realize the entire game is a sex minigame with a handful of girls inside of Ren'py prompts and beyond that, there's virtually no character events, story plot points, well written sex events. Like I said, large flash game with great X-Men Evolution art.
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And you don't think 3 or 4 hours of enamored enjoyment is fairly significant in the arena of adult games hosted here (particularly those that are games and not just kinetic novels)? If 3 or 4 hours is too little, does that say more about content or about grindyness?

EDIT: I even allowed myself to take my own point for granted there in agreeing with your assessment of 3 or 4 hours. 3 or 4 hours is accurate for me to go through the game getting to a point where I'm only going to get repetition of events moving forward. But that won't be the case for someone who doesn't already know the game inside and out. I know which responses in scripted events get the most stat increases, I know which activities and conversations are the most effective for stat increases for each character based on where their stats currently sit. And I know what to avoid in order to keep the money flowing so I can buy everything there is to buy as soon as possible in the game. Additionally, I know what content exists and what doesn't so I know when I've hit that point that everything else will just be a repeat. A new player won't have any of that, and will probably take 2 to 3 times longer than me to reach that same point.
 
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boblicticious said:
And you don't think 3 or 4 hours of enamored enjoyment is fairly significant in the arena of adult games hosted here (particularly those that are games and not just kinetic novels)? If 3 or 4 hours is too little, does that say more about content or about grindyness?

EDIT: I even allowed myself to take my own point for granted there in agreeing with your assessment of 3 or 4 hours. 3 or 4 hours is accurate for me to go through the game getting to a point where I'm only going to get repetition of events moving forward. But that won't be the case for someone who doesn't already know the game inside and out. I know which responses in scripted events get the most stat increases, I know which activities and conversations are the most effective for stat increases for each character based on where their stats currently sit. And I know what to avoid in order to keep the money flowing so I can buy everything there is to buy as soon as possible in the game. Additionally, I know what content exists and what doesn't so I know when I've hit that point that everything else will just be a repeat. A new player won't have any of that, and will probably take 2 to 3 times longer than me to reach that same point.
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Wiser words haven't been spokeneth.
I get behind the fact that the dev is really lacking in amount of content delivered, schedules and for a while even in the quality of the poses, but this game has been and probably will keep being a top 1% of quality for themes la 2D, Sandbox, Harem, Exhibitionism or Corruption. Could be much more, definitely, but its simplicity also plays in is own favor because it allows for replay value instead of playing it once or twice and thinking "I'd like to play it again, but if it doesn't have a gallery mode, I don't feel like going through all that plot stuff just for my prefered scenes".
I'm one of those who think adding story stuff would worsen the experience. Adding more activities and clothes would be great, but this game found its place, and trying to move it out would just make it sacrifice what's good at in exchange for something that might not be that good. (Also, what the fuck is with people wishing for story in a porn game when it only needs a pretext?)
 
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leathermax said:
Wiser words haven't been spokeneth.
I get behind the fact that the dev is really lacking in amount of content delivered, schedules and for a while even in the quality of the poses, but this game has been and probably will keep being a top 1% of quality for themes la 2D, Sandbox, Harem, Exhibitionism or Corruption. Could be much more, definitely, but its simplicity also plays in is own favor because it allows for replay value instead of playing it once or twice and thinking "I'd like to play it again, but if it doesn't have a gallery mode, I don't feel like going through all that plot stuff just for my prefered scenes".
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Don't know if simplicity is the word given what passes as games here, I think it's pretty intricate if undercooked. Casual?

Semondemon said:
Call me old fashioned but I prefer games like how rogue like play because it feel less nonsense and bullshit and is straight to the point (do thing get sex).
If you want a game or intricate story go bother with a vn, if you wanna get you kicks off quicklike play rogue like. I mean honestly...
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It fits the premise: nymphomaniac friends with benefits with room for more. Routes in linear games have a tendency to be terribly paced with the climax falling flat, whether it's love-making vanilla or banned in 39 countries.
 
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Semondemon said:
Call me old fashioned but I prefer games like how rogue like play because it feel less nonsense and bullshit and is straight to the point (do thing get sex).
If you want a game or intricate story go bother with a vn, if you wanna get you kicks off quicklike play rogue like. I mean honestly...
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What ive found is that most porn VNs suck because its pretty much a cutscene, fuck that i wanna be the one in charge of what im doing, if i wanna spend an hour spanking emma frost's ass then thats what im gonna do, not what the dev thought would be cool.
 
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Semondemon said:
Call me old fashioned but I prefer games like how rogue like play because it feel less nonsense and bullshit and is straight to the point (do thing get sex).
If you want a game or intricate story go bother with a vn, if you wanna get you kicks off quicklike play rogue like. I mean honestly...
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Exactly
I came here not to see the life story of a wimpy mc
I came here to beat that meat
 
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salscou said:
What ive found is that most porn VNs suck because its pretty much a cutscene, fuck that i wanna be the one in charge of what im doing, if i wanna spend an hour spanking emma frost's ass then thats what im gonna do, not what the dev thought would be cool.
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More than that, there are mechanics behind it. Sex "minigames" that are nothing and you just click finish are the worst.
 
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NichtSmart said:
At this point we'll see version 0.999z in 2024
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I admire, yet sneer at your optimism.
We've been at it since 2016.
Might as well stretch it and make it a full decade at this point, just for shits and giggles.

I'm not even kidding - that means 4 more years, so he'd have to do what, add 3-4 new girls to keep the current pace? Squirrel girl (because of course), Psylock, Polaris, another Gwenpool cameo or two. Done.
 
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