Semondemon

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How could she not? A Betsy without a nice ass would be like a landmine that doesn't explode but just makes your socks wet, or a katana that wobbles around like a double ended dildo - simply not working as intended and overall just really disappointing and annoying.
GTA would like a word with you. Those double ended dildo's made good dick swords.
 

Damcanuck

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Ah Saints Row 3 & 4, possibly some of just the funnest games I've ever played. Completely silly, and over the top, and they basked in it GLORIOUSLY. So many great moments. Keith David and Roddy roddie Piper? check. Burt Renolds? Check. The music tracks for the last boss fights for both games? Perfect. I really hope someone buys the volition IP's and keeps them going. unless of course the newest one didn't have the same spirit as 3 & 4, anyways.
 

RiloLaki

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Ah Saints Row 3 & 4, possibly some of just the funnest games I've ever played. Completely silly, and over the top, and they basked in it GLORIOUSLY. So many great moments. Keith David and Roddy roddie Piper? check. Burt Renolds? Check. The music tracks for the last boss fights for both games? Perfect. I really hope someone buys the volition IP's and keeps them going. unless of course the newest one didn't have the same spirit as 3 & 4, anyways.
Unfortunately, the last Saints Row was a wet stinky turd with all the charisma of Ghostbusters (2016), with so many of the same not funny "joke" beats that I thought the game & movie were written by the same activist blue-haired monkey. Likely the brand is now dead after how badly it flopped, Volition being shut down, and the IP handed over to...Plaion? Who the hell are these jokers?

To compensate for this horrible comment, here's a reminder as to why Japan loves Shuma Gorath:
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Semondemon

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Ah Saints Row 3 & 4, possibly some of just the funnest games I've ever played. Completely silly, and over the top, and they basked in it GLORIOUSLY. So many great moments. Keith David and Roddy roddie Piper? check. Burt Renolds? Check. The music tracks for the last boss fights for both games? Perfect. I really hope someone buys the volition IP's and keeps them going. unless of course the newest one didn't have the same spirit as 3 & 4, anyways.
If you say so m8. People forget how serious saints row 2 was and the devs leaned into whacky XD territory & it lost the point. You like what you like but those devs were dumb as fuck. Anyway rogues ass (there's female shuma btw.)
 

RiloLaki

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If you say so m8. People forget how serious saints row 2 was and the devs leaned into whacky XD territory & it lost the point. You like what you like but those devs were dumb as fuck. Anyway rogues ass (there's female shuma btw.)
100% disagree. Saints Row was seen (rightfully or not, that's how it was) as a competent but uninspired GTA clone within a massive ocean of such clones (depending on the platform - some versions were prone to crashing so were "less competent"). If the brand/IP were to survive it required a new direction, and Volition were masters at sci-fi story telling prior to SR. This shift helped SR3 to sell nearly twice the copies as SR2 and saved the IP even as its publisher was falling apart around it.
 

Damcanuck

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I dunno, I haven't so hard and so often playing a game, well, since saints row 3 & 4 I guess. The game itself mechanic wise was whatever, but it was the spirit of the game that made it for me. Driving with Pierce(?) at the beginning where you're both badly singing along to the radio was hilarious, also, Burt Renolds being one of your "homies" was solid gold. And of course, the last boss music for 3 being "I need a hero" and for 4 being "you got the touch"? Priceless. Haven't played the new one, so can't say one way or the other about that. And Gearbox is selling shutting down properties left and right, I just say we should all hope that if these properties are rebooted or whatever, it's by companies that care about what they're doing. and back on topic, Rogue's ass. hhow did that get ok for 90's kids tv and Spider-man couldn't be shown PUNCHING someone? lol
 

RiloLaki

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Rogue's ass. hhow did that get ok for 90's kids tv and Spider-man couldn't be shown PUNCHING someone? lol
Read (or saw) an interview with the artists/animators who tossed as much cheesecake in as they could just to see what would slip through. They did Rouge's ass justice purposely as the heroes our young impressionable minds needed, and were often shocked themselves by what got though the censors.
 
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RiloLaki

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What got through the censors that shocked them so much? Besides Rogue's ass.
Don't remember, it was _years_ ago - Rogue's tits & ass were the big (pun!) talking points, though. I think the concentration camp scene in Days of Future Past was one, along with a lot of Gambit & Rogue's lines - together & on their own.

Sadly, Seasons 3-5 were more heavily "critiqued" (and thus censored) due to national politics, FOX airing the show in Prime Time in some areas (which gets an even stronger look by the censors), and the burgeoning BullShit & Piss that eventually took effect in '97.

Wait, it was called "Broadcast Standards & Practices? I call BullShit & Piss on that.

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Ah Saints Row 3 & 4, possibly some of just the funnest games I've ever played. Completely silly, and over the top, and they basked in it GLORIOUSLY. So many great moments. Keith David and Roddy roddie Piper? check. Burt Renolds? Check. The music tracks for the last boss fights for both games? Perfect. I really hope someone buys the volition IP's and keeps them going. unless of course the newest one didn't have the same spirit as 3 & 4, anyways.
As a big SR Fan i will have to say i absolutley loved SR 4! But the best in the Franchise was and will be forever part 2 to me. My list from best to worst is 2,4,1,3 and then The Reboot, wich was in some parts cool because it was more like two especialy in Character Creation unfortunatly they had to go kill everything else with the hipster garbage they had to put in and the technical problems where the final nail in the coffin. Too Bad that it killed Volition too, but they where warned many times before.
 
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As a big SR Fan i will have to say i absolutley loved SR 4! But the best in the Franchise was and will be forever part 2 to me. My list from best to worst is 2,4,1,3 and then The Reboot, wich was in some parts cool because it was more like two especialy in Character Creation unfortunatly they had to go kill everything else with the hipster garbage they had to put in and the technical problems where the final nail in the coffin. Too Bad that it killed Volition too, but they where warned many times before.
2 was incredible, it was hilarious, but it also wasn't afraid to be serious
 

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100% disagree. Saints Row was seen (rightfully or not, that's how it was) as a competent but uninspired GTA clone within a massive ocean of such clones (depending on the platform - some versions were prone to crashing so were "less competent"). If the brand/IP were to survive it required a new direction, and Volition were masters at sci-fi story telling prior to SR. This shift helped SR3 to sell nearly twice the copies as SR2 and saved the IP even as its publisher was falling apart around it.
If you put it out to a large enough time frame, Violition were essentially copying what GTA was doing. SR1 is a straight clone, ala Vice City. With GTA 4 coming out, they doubled down on the interactivity for 2. Being able to rob stores, all the mini games you could do, even the customization and silly yet serious story. GTA 4 went all realism and forgot what having fun was about, even if Roman kept pestering you about bowling.
The interesting thing is SR3 was the next leap but they copied again from GTA 4 instead of improving the formula from SR2. The result was a kind of culture shock which could be it's own entry yet seemed to forget SR2 entirely. They then expanded the sillyness again by adding in superpowers. But that's where it stopped. Violition afterwards made Gat out of Hell which was supposed to be a DLC for 4 expanded into it's own game, Agents of Mayhem chasing the arena shooter trend and finally the modern SR Reboot that killed the studio.
Volition were always trend chasers, the sad thing is they kinda perfected a sandbox with SR2, yet the upgrade patch for that languishes in dev hell.

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If you put it out to a large enough time frame, Violition were essentially copying what GTA was doing. SR1 is a straight clone, ala Vice City. With GTA 4 coming out, they doubled down on the interactivity for 2. Being able to rob stores, all the mini games you could do, even the customization and silly yet serious story. GTA 4 went all realism and forgot what having fun was about, even if Roman kept pestering you about bowling.
The interesting thing is SR3 was the next leap but they copied again from GTA 4 instead of improving the formula from SR2. The result was a kind of culture shock which could be it's own entry yet seemed to forget SR2 entirely. They then expanded the sillyness again by adding in superpowers. But that's where it stopped. Violition afterwards made Gat out of Hell which was supposed to be a DLC for 4 expanded into it's own game, Agents of Mayhem chasing the arena shooter trend and finally the modern SR Reboot that killed the studio.
Volition were always trend chasers, the sad thing is they kinda perfected a sandbox with SR2, yet the upgrade patch for that languishes in dev hell.

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It reminds me of eidos and io interactive with kayne and lynch, or the payday games they wanted to be a Michael Mann movie but were only ever aping his style. Like how null hypnosis copied Rogue-Like, which I would say was a better example of successfully imitating and iterating.
 
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