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LordMerek

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Oh so to make a hanjob animation he neaded more than a 6 mounths -_\ And of course it will be bug free.

Well till atumn than :cautious:
It's likely due to a half-assed effort on his part due to being a shabby coder as well as the sole artist rather than some sort of Ponzi-scheme.
 
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Semondemon

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I honestly can't say if Oni's patreons are very patient or very submissive, half a year just fiddling with code, without any updates, I would have stopped giving money for a long time ago.
He has alot of patreons as far as I can tell; I give him $3 and I have access to the game & even voting, for three dollarydoo's a month is no big deal whatsoever. I don't defend people I'm just saiyan why get mad if the guy only asks a dollar a month for access to the game?
 

naoligopraisso

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He has alot of patreons as far as I can tell; I give him $3 and I have access to the game & even voting, for three dollarydoo's a month is no big deal whatsoever. I don't defend people I'm just saiyan why get mad if the guy only asks a dollar a month for access to the game?
I understand your point, but I ask, what game? For a long time that Oni has only been hunting for bugs, and I know that in the long run, 3 dollars or 1 dollar, it doesn't seem like much a month, but in the long run, saving, putting together during that half year, it would be in the margin of 18 dollars, and 18 dollars converted to my country's currency, are at the base of 92 $, with 92 $ some families here do the shopping of the month.
 

Semondemon

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I understand your point, but I ask, what game? For a long time that Oni has only been hunting for bugs, and I know that in the long run, 3 dollars or 1 dollar, it doesn't seem like much a month, but in the long run, saving, putting together during that half year, it would be in the margin of 18 dollars, and 18 dollars converted to my country's currency, are at the base of 92 $, with 92 $ some families here do the shopping of the month.
It must be nice to only have to spend that much a month here where I live the costs are so high which is why $3 is nothing for me. I'm so poor myself I never spend money irregardless, even on food and I can still barely scrape by. It doesn't matter where you live, the situation of the world is bad for anyone poor, things never change.
 
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naoligopraisso

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It must be nice to only have to spend that much a month here where I live the costs are so high which is why $3 is nothing for me. I'm so poor myself I never spend money irregardless, even on food and I can still barely scrape by. It doesn't matter where you live, the situation of the world is bad for anyone poor, things never change.
You misunderstood me, I meant that here in my country, due to poverty, poor government administration and theft of public money, up to 1 dollar becomes 5$, our economy is a joke, while the rich make millions in dollars, the poor have to survive on $ 150 in government aid, which is much less than half a minimum wage and converted into dollars equals 30 dollars.
so no, I didn't mean that we spent it, I meant that some families can ONLY spend it.

not that it's a problem to spend money on games, each one spends in the way that suits you, just saying that, in the long run, the costs are higher than you think. Mainly, if it has no results.
 
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I understand your point, but I ask, what game? For a long time that Oni has only been hunting for bugs, and I know that in the long run, 3 dollars or 1 dollar, it doesn't seem like much a month, but in the long run, saving, putting together during that half year, it would be in the margin of 18 dollars, and 18 dollars converted to my country's currency, are at the base of 92 $, with 92 $ some families here do the shopping of the month.
And then you could bring to attention that this game is already FIVE years on patreon. 1$ a month for 5 years is 60$. Sixty.fucking.bucks. for a flash game
 

Semondemon

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And then you could bring to attention that this game is already FIVE years on patreon. 1$ a month for 5 years is 60$. Sixty.fucking.bucks. for a flash game
I only recently became a patreon so I've only paid like two dollars so far. I mean a dollar per update then drop it until a new one comes out. No one's holding you to stay onto this for fifteen years.
Don't take your annoyance out on me I dindu nuffin at all in this case.
 

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What is the point, being on a pirate site, to think how much money the author makes. And tell others how they should spend their money. People who pay know what they are doing and are not dumber than those who advise not to pay.
Some have the opportunity to pay, while others do not. But why complain and raise this topic? In this thread, users get links for free.
The author does a pretty good job, given the specifics of the game and art. In addition, the author has established a permanent workflow that allows you to release a new version once every 4 months, of which up to 1 month is spent on fixing bugs. This process has been unchanged for several years.
Not many authors can boast such stability.
If you compare with other authors, you can find many examples where, with much higher revenue, releases are fewer, and the quality is also not always at the level.
Given that the game has copyrighted art, this is generally a separate category of games. There are authors who make the same art in the form of comics or just a pin-up, without any games. Issue 1-2 pages per week and have a much larger income.
This game was originally conceived with one character - Rogue. And when the author was already thinking of completing the game, it was the patrons who insisted on the continuation. Accordingly, when the "foundation" of the game was originally made for one character, it took a lot of work to create a workable version with the ability to add new characters.
Any game until it is completed will have bugs. And the more serious the changes, the more time it takes to debug bugs.
In the case of this game, the author does everything necessary so that each new version is stable. Again, not all authors do this. In many games with large payments, bugs are not always eliminated even in the final version.

Accordingly, the author makes the game while he has an incentive = he is paid for it.
If someone does not like the game, he may not play it. If someone cannot pay, let him not pay. But why tell others what they should do. If no one pays the author, the author will end the game. Therefore, on the contrary, you need to thank patrons that such a game exists.

The paradox of pirated sites. Pirates are called pirates because they take for free what others pay for. And at the same time, these same pirates urge not to pay. And if you don’t pay, what will the pirates take?

IF
Can we make some changes to this forum? Like, every 3rd person asking about Mystique, mac unzipping or some other bs, gets a dick card. If you get 3,your avatar is changed to a dick pic, and your nickname to "dick##"? Please?
THEN AFTER
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He is making more than 10K$, and updating the game once in a couple of months with barely any content. Are you really implying that this is completely normal?
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Even if we choose 1$ per month. The game has been out on Patreon for FIVE YEARS (holy crap, right?). Technically it means You could already spend 60 freaking bucks on it. 60$ on a simple flash game. Like, why would anyone do that?...
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And then you could bring to attention that this game is already FIVE years on patreon. 1$ a month for 5 years is 60$. Sixty.fucking.bucks. for a flash game
Milking expert?
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[Ren'Py] "a flash game"?

What does the information (on a pirate site) give how much is needed or not needed to pay the author?
If people pay 1$, then they are not able to independently calculate or decide what to do with their money? If say that for a year they spend 12$ and for 5 years 60$ it will open their eyes, because without this calculation they did not suspect what "gigantic" money they spend? (you also need to consider that most patrons, like the author himself, will never read this)

People came to the pirate site to get what they need for free, no matter how much the author makes money.
In addition, the work of the patreon is designed to work with different patrons. Any author has several types of patrons, which differ not only in the size of the contribution, but also in the frequency of payment.
Some patrons pay monthly, some only at the time of release, some once a year. Thus, the payment formula 1 * 12 * 5 = 60 does not apply to all patrons. Most people can afford $ 1 per month per game. Well, those who can’t afford it just need to come to terms with this fact.
 
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What is the point, being on a pirate site, to think how much money the author makes. And tell others how they should spend their money. People who pay know what they are doing and are not dumber than those who advise not to pay.
Some have the opportunity to pay, while others do not. But why complain and raise this topic? In this thread, users get links for free.
The author does a pretty good job, given the specifics of the game and art. In addition, the author has established a permanent workflow that allows you to release a new version once every 4 months, of which up to 1 month is spent on fixing bugs. This process has been unchanged for several years.
Not many authors can boast such stability.
If you compare with other authors, you can find many examples where, with much higher revenue, releases are fewer, and the quality is also not always at the level.
Given that the game has copyrighted art, this is generally a separate category of games. There are authors who make the same art in the form of comics or just a pin-up, without any games. Issue 1-2 pages per week and have a much larger income.
This game was originally conceived with one character - Rogue. And when the author was already thinking of completing the game, it was the patrons who insisted on the continuation. Accordingly, when the "foundation" of the game was originally made for one character, it took a lot of work to create a workable version with the ability to add new characters.
Any game until it is completed will have bugs. And the more serious the changes, the more time it takes to debug bugs.
In the case of this game, the author does everything necessary so that each new version is stable. Again, not all authors do this. In many games with large payments, bugs are not always eliminated even in the final version.

Accordingly, the author makes the game while he has an incentive = he is paid for it.
If someone does not like the game, he may not play it. If someone cannot pay, let him not pay. But why tell others what they should do. If no one pays the author, the author will end the game. Therefore, on the contrary, you need to thank patrons that such a game exists.

The paradox of pirated sites. Pirates are called pirates because they take for free what others pay for. And at the same time, these same pirates urge not to pay. And if you don’t pay, what will the pirates take?

IF


THEN AFTER
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2

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Milking expert?
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[Ren'Py] "a flash game"?

What does the information (on a pirate site) give how much is needed or not needed to pay the author?
If people pay 1$, then they are not able to independently calculate or decide what to do with their money? If say that for a year they spend 12$ and for 5 years 60$ it will open their eyes, because without this calculation they did not suspect what "gigantic" money they spend? (you also need to consider that most patrons, like the author himself, will never read this)

People came to the pirate site to get what they need for free, no matter how much the author makes money.
In addition, the work of the patreon is designed to work with different patrons. Any author has several types of patrons, which differ not only in the size of the contribution, but also in the frequency of payment.
Some patrons pay monthly, some only at the time of release, some once a year. Thus, the payment formula 1 * 12 * 5 = 60 does not apply to all patrons. Most people can afford $ 1 per month per game. Well, those who can’t afford it just need to come to terms with this fact.
You ask me "what is the point", and at the same time you drop a freaking wall of text, on an adult gaming forum. lol You really wanna talk about time wasting? You, the guy that keeps making photoshopped memes for this thread? xD
 
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