Ren'Py Rogue-like: Evolution [v1.62d] [Oni]

[Wajean]

I'm okay with simply saying what needed to be said. If you guys want to spend all day deflecting, downplaying, and not expect more than the absolute bare minimum from someone who has both the time and money (that money being yours), then whatever. I've seen drones defend other devs who do jack for their games while they piss on their supporters with a smile on their face. I knew what I was walking into when I came here.

Know that Oni isn't doing this for free. That means he's not exempt from criticism, expectations, and responsibility.

Fair is fair. Thing is, there are just a few people here who pay in Patreon, while everyone else, me included, drop no blings whatsoever. Plus, (I'm taking the fact that you didn't list any game as being broadly better than RLE as a sign that there might not be that many), the fact that Oni can deliver one of the best porn games of it's genre while severely underperforming means he's at least secured that, and doesn't need to do any extra. Which is a bit sad, almost dishonest, perhaps, but the result is that, at the end of the day, this game, as easy as it seems to be to make, is still one of a kind and very good.
I mean, criticizing this game can't be without outright criticizing the whole porn game industry, don't you think?

 

[salscou]

all my clothes

How does one get them into the game?

 

[LOGhetto]

Fair is fair. Thing is, there are just a few people here who pay in Patreon, while everyone else, me included, drop no blings whatsoever. Plus, (I'm taking the fact that you didn't list any game as being broadly better than RLE as a sign that there might not be that many), the fact that Oni can deliver one of the best porn games of it's genre while severely underperforming means he's at least secured that, and doesn't need to do any extra. Which is a bit sad, almost dishonest, perhaps, but the result is that, at the end of the day, this game, as easy as it seems to be to make, is still one of a kind and very good.
I mean, criticizing this game can't be without outright criticizing the whole porn game industry, don't you think?

Again deflection. Needless even, if you agree Oni underdelivers and that his game is lackluster then you're not making any argument against what I have already said. You bringing up what you consider to be "the best" despite the facts of Oni's work ethic, conduct, and the fact that he's earning over $92000 a year with the game objectively not making any substantial progress and only continues to get worse because he continues to half ass even more makes that statement mean less than nothing.

It's not the best of anything. Aside from being a money sink.

 

[LOGhetto]

This game has been in development for 6 years, it's not an ambitious game either. It's setting and format being Renpy is also simple. In 6 years Oni has produced content that could've been done by a more motivated and honest person would've accomplished in a year and a half. We've been in grift territory since Emma.

 

[LOGhetto]

He's an artist first, yet he gives the bare minimum even in that department now. Atrocious poses, lack of clothing in poses that should be there. Can't even be assed to provide attention to detail and make sure things look good. Something most artists would consider to be their top priority. He's bad at code, but he's intentionally bad at the one thing everyone knows he's good at.

 

[GeneGodHand]

hopping in non-aggressively to say practice what you preach brother, if you don't like this one porn game i'm sure there's a dozen others more suited to your taste

we're in a piracy board. only people reading any of this are the folks who check in periodically to rub one out for free. it's cool that you're personally invested in it, everyone's got their passions, but blasting the dev's ass in here is kinda like talking to a brick wall, don'tcha think?

just my two cents

 

[LOGhetto]

hopping in non-aggressively to say practice what you preach brother, if you don't like this one porn game i'm sure there's a dozen others more suited to your taste

we're in a piracy board. only people reading any of this are the folks who check in periodically to rub one out for free. it's cool that you're personally invested in it, everyone's got their passions, but blasting the dev's ass in here is kinda like talking to a brick wall, don'tcha think?

just my two cents

I'll refund you your change, I funded this game and after watching how bad it's gotten up to now I'll say whatever I want about the dev, because Oni deserves only that. If you don't like what I have to say then that's a you problem.

 

[LOGhetto]

That'll be the only "If you don't like it go somewhere else" brainlet comment I'll humor.

Complacency is why things never improve.

 

[GeneGodHand]

don't let me stop you buddy, enjoy your day!

 

[Evil13]

hopping in non-aggressively to say practice what you preach brother, if you don't like this one porn game i'm sure there's a dozen others more suited to your taste

we're in a piracy board. only people reading any of this are the folks who check in periodically to rub one out for free. it's cool that you're personally invested in it, everyone's got their passions, but blasting the dev's ass in here is kinda like talking to a brick wall, don'tcha think?

just my two cents

The "piracy board" argument tends to hold little water when you consider that many developers tend to release free versions of their game, usually after the latest release. But more than that, quite a few developers don't mind that people bring their games onto forums like this, usually because its free advertising and a place to get quick feedback about the game. If someone chooses to support the developer because they found the developer's game on here, that's great. If developers didn't like it, they'd contact the admins and have the games removed.

 

[GeneGodHand]

The "piracy board" argument tends to hold little water when you consider that many developers tend to release free versions of their game, usually after the latest release. But more than that, quite a few developers don't mind that people bring their games onto forums like this, usually because its free advertising and a place to get quick feedback about the game. If someone chooses to support the developer because they found the developer's game on here, that's great. If developers didn't like it, they'd contact the admins and have the games removed.

well hey, if oni does take feedback from here, i'll stand corrected!

 

[NSoull]

Fair is fair. Thing is, there are just a few people here who pay in Patreon, while everyone else, me included, drop no blings whatsoever. Plus, (I'm taking the fact that you didn't list any game as being broadly better than RLE as a sign that there might not be that many), the fact that Oni can deliver one of the best porn games of it's genre while severely underperforming means he's at least secured that, and doesn't need to do any extra. Which is a bit sad, almost dishonest, perhaps, but the result is that, at the end of the day, this game, as easy as it seems to be to make, is still one of a kind and very good.
I mean, criticizing this game can't be without outright criticizing the whole porn game industry, don't you think?

Calling Rogue-Like the "best porn game of its genre" is a big statement. What genre do you mean exactly? WEG?

 

[Helivesoncemore]

Problem is that this is one of the only games of its genre, trainers, and even the ones within are a bit too different from the gameplay loop of this one

 

[JaSteel]

I think a lot of people get upset with Oni not only because he milks this game for all its worth (I agree with the point above that what has done in six years some other developers could get done in a year and a half), but that they see the unrealized potential of the game that at this rate will never come to pass. That does not invalidate the point that this is one of the very best porn games out there. In fact, that just illustrates the point. It *is* one of the best games to fire up and get your spank on. Oni actually has a lot of very good ideas, and his art style is well liked. But he does lack quite a lot in effort and execution.

Point being that both camps are right. Oni is stubborn and lazy, but the game is still good.

 

[kenny]

What genre? This game has barely any gameplay to even have one, it's like a super neutered combination of a trainer and dating sim, and there's no story to be a VN

 

[Parnso]

If developers didn't like it, they'd contact the admins and have the games removed.

Name one example.

 

[Lulu66638]

I funded this game

All that matters is here. To sum it up, LOGhetto funded Oni, realized he was being milked and since he can't get his money back, came here to rant about it. Classic case of turning against former loves; no need to say anymore.

 

[NSoull]

All that matters is here. To sum it up, LOGhetto funded Oni, realized he was being milked and since he can't get his money back, came here to rant about it. Classic case of turning against former loves; no need to say anymore.

Jesus, what an awful take. The game looked promising at first, someone funded it and then realized they were being milked. Now they are upset at both how they wasted the money and how the game wasted its potential due to greed and laziness.

 

[LOGhetto]

All that matters is here. To sum it up, LOGhetto funded Oni, realized he was being milked and since he can't get his money back, came here to rant about it. Classic case of turning against former loves; no need to say anymore.

Wew lad, I've seen a lot on this site. Can't criticize if you didn't pay, and now you can't criticize if you DID pay. Copium is a hell of a drug.

Unfortunately your deflection does not take away from the facts stated. Better luck next time.

 

[The French Tickler]