Apr 7, 2018
190
122
What's your point? Like I said, I'm not defending Oni. I'm just saying that it's different systems and that Akabur's is simpler. That's all.

Edit: You're wrong about a couple of things btw.
I never said Oni's coding is more efficient.
The stat systems in those two games does not work the same way.
There's more to Rogue-Like than the submission and love systems. Way more. Just take a look at the coding.
I never said Oni's game is complex. I said that the coding in his stats system is more complex than the one Akabur uses.
And irrelevant? Not at all. Most of your post however, is irrelevant to what I've said.

Have a good night.
You took that well too personally. My point was that regardless of all the variables Oni adds at its base it's Love/Submission when you look at what the variables actually do. I don't see why you tried countering the point I never made, I never once indicated that you claimed it was more efficient, I threw that in as my opinion on the major difference between Akabur and Oni as devs. You should really learn not to take things too personal on the internet, when you say something online you're open to criticism. As to your point about complexity, again you're countering a point I never made. I stated I don't feel his game is complex, I never indicated that's what I though you said.
 

Tinymanhood

Member
Modder
Jun 6, 2017
353
836
You took that well too personally. My point was that regardless of all the variables Oni adds at its base it's Love/Submission when you look at what the variables actually do. I don't see why you tried countering the point I never made, I never once indicated that you claimed it was more efficient, I threw that in as my opinion on the major difference between Akabur and Oni as devs. You should really learn not to take things too personal on the internet, when you say something online you're open to criticism. As to your point about complexity, again you're countering a point I never made. I stated I don't feel his game is complex, I never indicated that's what I though you said.
I didn't take anything personal, I just corrected you.

"Akabur got the coding system right, those '3-4' stats work in essentially the same way as RL"
"Oni's game isn't complex, its got a submission system and a love system, literally every renpy game on this site omegalol"

I'm amazed at how quickly you forgot what you wrote in your own post.

Anyways, this conversation is going nowhere. Have a nice night.
 
Apr 7, 2018
190
122
I didn't take anything personal, I just corrected you.

"Akabur got the coding system right, those '3-4' stats work in essentially the same way as RL"
"Oni's game isn't complex, its got a submission system and a love system, literally every renpy game on this site omegalol"

I'm amazed at how quickly you forgot what you wrote in your own post.

Anyways, this conversation is going nowhere. Have a nice night.
Again stating my opinion and not countering your point, boy are you okay? Gn man.
 

Tinymanhood

Member
Modder
Jun 6, 2017
353
836
Again stating my opinion and not countering your point, boy are you okay? Gn man.
"Akabur got the coding system right, those '3-4' stats work in essentially the same way as RL"
"Oni's game isn't complex, its got a submission system and a love system, literally every renpy game on this site omegalol"

Those are statements, not opinions ;)
 

Tinymanhood

Member
Modder
Jun 6, 2017
353
836
It's a neat idea, but I wonder how easily it would be to port this over to the newer version of the game as Oni releases them. I know it's a long time usually between official updates but even some of the less intrusive mods here have been broken even when you go from version .978e to .978f, where there presumably haven't been any major changes or overhauls except for a few bug fixes.

How would you be able to keep up with Oni's changes? Or are you thinking of branching off entirely and creating your own standalone modded version of the game, with .978e as its "starting point"? (for example, like Witch Trainer: Silver versus the original Witch Trainer)
Something like that could definitely be done, but the missing art would still be needed.
 
Apr 7, 2018
190
122
"Akabur got the coding system right, those '3-4' stats work in essentially the same way as RL"
"Oni's game isn't complex, its got a submission system and a love system, literally every renpy game on this site omegalol"

Those are statements, not opinions ;)
Complexity is totally subjective... again opinion. Are we really going to get grammatical here? Seems totally illogical, we can do far more useful things with our time. This was never intended to be an argument, have a good one my man.
 

drew

Member
May 19, 2017
228
80
Something like that could definitely be done, but the missing art would still be needed.

So? sorry i just read 2 comments, i don't know nothing about what u guys are talking about, but, what's the problem?? i don't get it sry.
 

n1ck

Member
Feb 5, 2018
374
365
It's a neat idea, but I wonder how easily it would be to port this over to the newer version of the game as Oni releases them. I know it's a long time usually between official updates but even some of the less intrusive mods here have been broken even when you go from version .978e to .978f, where there presumably haven't been any major changes or overhauls except for a few bug fixes.

How would you be able to keep up with Oni's changes? Or are you thinking of branching off entirely and creating your own standalone modded version of the game, with .978e as its "starting point"? (for example, like Witch Trainer: Silver versus the original Witch Trainer)
For starters, I'm thinking of rewriting the code like this (from my fix of the jealousy event):

if "saw with kitty" in R_Traits:
if Day < R_LastCaughtKitty or Day > (R_LastCaughtKitty + 2):
$ R_Traits.remove("saw with kitty")
$ R_LastCaughtKitty = 0

if "saw with emma" in R_Traits:
if Day < R_LastCaughtEmma or Day > (R_LastCaughtEmma + 2):
$ R_Traits.remove("saw with emma")
$ R_LastCaughtEmma = 0

to this:

rogue.forget_all_infidelities()

The logic are mainly the same, but with minimal code repetition. This should make porting from new version more manageable.

I think we'll talk about version branching when I have a good idea on how to make the game plugin friendly, to a point where one could add/remove new characters and events, not just clothings, with ease. For this I need to consult someone who are knowledgeable in Renpy.

Something like that could definitely be done, but the missing art would still be needed.
I'm thinking about adding dialogs where no new art are needed. For example, Emma's "Just want to talk". Currently it is a carbon copy of Kitty's. As "Just want to talk" is a secondary event dispatcher, I'm interested on getting that to work.
 
  • Like
Reactions: cvbn28c and aifman7

Tinymanhood

Member
Modder
Jun 6, 2017
353
836
So? sorry i just read 2 comments, i don't know nothing about what u guys are talking about, but, what's the problem?? i don't get it sry.
We're just talking about modding the game.

I'm thinking about adding dialogs where no new art are needed. For example, Emma's "Just want to talk". Currently it is a carbon copy of Kitty's. As "Just want to talk" is a secondary event dispatcher, I'm interested on getting that to work.
Oh okay, that shouldn't be too difficult. But as said, it would probably have to be a standalone version.
 

Shanks_Aka

Member
Modder
Dec 3, 2017
213
573
We're just talking about modding the game.



Oh okay, that shouldn't be too difficult. But as said, it would probably have to be a standalone version.
On that note I'm curious to see how hard its gonna be to merge the mods with version 979
 

Tinymanhood

Member
Modder
Jun 6, 2017
353
836
Wow that would be nice, could you do something about the sex animations or is impossible? " last question" i don 't want bother XD
I guess it's possible to add stuff to the existing animations, if that's what you mean.
 
  • Like
Reactions: drew

Ennoch

Conversation Conqueror
Donor
Respected User
Oct 10, 2017
7,560
21,593
Strange question maybe, but is there some way to increase stats with Kitty or Emma without flirting with them?
Flirting is just a collection of options that increase or decrease stats with them. So thats the way to go. There are books but those are one-shots. Whats the problem with flirting?
 

Ennoch

Conversation Conqueror
Donor
Respected User
Oct 10, 2017
7,560
21,593
Yes, obviously when you have high enough stat, you switch from flirting to sex options :) With Kitty that is because we are damn cockblocked with Emma :'(
 
4.40 star(s) 158 Votes