Sage AI Art Help

Mar 23, 2021
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I am trying to create a simply image with "green space aliens standing around exam table" as the prompt, but AI (Sage in particular) can't seem to figure this out. Any help with this would be appreciated (ie constructing the prompt). Originally I was looking for a realistic picture of 3-4 aliens standing around a naked woman, but have cut it back just to the aliens out of frustration.

Currently using:
F222 (SDV1.5)
20 steps
7.5 guidance (tried higher and lower with no better results)
Negative Prompt: "shiny skin, oily skin, unrealistic lighting, portrait, cartoon, anime, fake, airbrushed skin, deformed, blur, blurry, bokeh, warp hard bokeh, gaussian, out of focus, out of frame, obese, odd proportions, asymmetrical, super thin, fat,dialog, words, fonts, teeth, ((((ugly)))), (((duplicate))), ((morbid)), monochrome, b&w, [out of frame], extra fingers, mutated hands, ((poorly drawn hands)), ((poorly drawn face)), (((mutation))), (((deformed))), ((ugly)), blurry, ((bad anatomy)), (((bad proportions))), ((extra limbs)), cloned face, (((disfigured))), out of frame, ugly, extra limbs, (bad anatomy), gross proportions, (malformed limbs), ((missing arms)), ((missing legs)), (((extra arms))), (((extra legs))), mutated hands, (fused fingers), (too many fingers), (((long neck)))"
EULER Scheduler

EDIT: Forgot to add image
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totallylost

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Oct 14, 2020
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I think F222 can't do nonhumans and men very well and is kinda of an older models at this point,its what a year old, and there are newer models and model merges that can do better than it.

Also using negative embeddings instead of a massive amounts of negative prompts can help as the clip processing is done in blocks of 75 and yours seem to count as 172. Also you have a bunch of duplicates in the negative prompt.

Here are my gens with your prompts on JamJustAnotherMerge_v19 and F222, same seed:
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F222 clearly struggles with the consept of what an alien is supposed to be and instead gives us guys in raincoats. I have noticed that alot of models will struggle with generating aliens and often default to generating plastic men from Powerrangers.

Anyways heres a somewhat decent image generated with the same seed,new positive prompt and cut down version of the negative on JamJustAnotherMerge_v19:
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You could probably get this looking a little bit better with EdobAlienSpecies lora and some inpainting.
 
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Mar 23, 2021
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I think F222 can't do nonhumans and men very well and is kinda of an older models at this point,its what a year old, and there are newer models and model merges that can do better than it.

Also using negative embeddings instead of a massive amounts of negative prompts can help as the clip processing is done in blocks of 75 and yours seem to count as 172. Also you have a bunch of duplicates in the negative prompt.

F222 clearly struggles with the consept of what an alien is supposed to be and instead gives us guys in raincoats. I have noticed that alot of models will struggle with generating aliens and often default to generating plastic men from Powerrangers.
I didn't know either of those things, thanks.

You could probably get this looking a little bit better with EdobAlienSpecies lora and some inpainting.
This is what I was going for, just wrong model and bad prompt (you know, the only things I am supposed to bring to the table :( )
Thanks for taking a look, I will see what I can do there.