Sandbox engine

[Deleted member 4406778]

Hey

Just need some info on what programs some Devs are using to make sandbox VN's in renpy or if it's in renpy itself that it's made in, I want to use something similar to unlimited pleasure or mythic manner but I'm just confused as to how they create the Sandbox

Thanks

 

[ChairmanDude]

Never played the game you mentioned... but most of the "Sandbox" VNs are made on Renpy yea...


It seems that you are completely lost so before continuing i must mention that you must make sure that you understand atleast how basic Renpy coding works, but anyway... most of the devs probably just take a couple of frameworks online to use on their games and modfying/complementing it with their own code, as far i'm aware there is not really a framework that will englobe all the things that a "Sandbox VN" needs but there are a few that might be helpful in achieving that... You can also code all this by yourself but assuming from your question, you are quite not ready for this probably.

The place for you to look for frameworks is the Lemma Soft

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forum...

Plus: Not willing to be a dick, but honestly you can pretty much google shit like "Renpy Point and Click System" or "Skills System" and you might find one or two useful results.

 

[Deleted member 4716251]

You need some python knowledge if you want to create with renpy.

 

[Deleted member 4406778]

Never played the game you mentioned... but most of the "Sandbox" VNs are made on Renpy yea...


It seems that you are completely lost so before continuing i must mention that you must make sure that you understand atleast how basic Renpy coding works, but anyway... most of the devs probably just take a couple of frameworks online to use on their games and modfying/complementing it with their own code, as far i'm aware there is not really a framework that will englobe all the things that a "Sandbox VN" needs but there are a few that might be helpful in achieving that... You can also code all this by yourself but assuming from your question, you are quite not ready for this probably.

The place for you to look for frameworks is the Lemma Soft

You must be registered to see the links

forum...

Plus: Not willing to be a dick, but honestly you can pretty much google shit like "Renpy Point and Click System" or "Skills System" and you might find one or two useful results.

Yeah that's what I thought it would be but seemed like 3rd party software was used for the sandbox with some VN's but if it's all to do with coding it in renpy then yeah I've got a lot to learn, thanks for all the info I'll check out the cook book you've tagged

Definitely didn't sound like a dick, just very helpful

You need some python knowledge if you want to create with renpy.

Thanks, gonna start learning asap and figure everything out before I begin rendering (something else I'm just learning in Daz/blender)


Thanks again guys

 

[Shli]

Thanks, gonna start learning asap and figure everything out before I begin rendering (something else I'm just learning in Daz/blender)

I don't know if you have any technical background or not but once you understand the basic concepts of programming and algorithms, using Python (for renpy at least) isn't hard at all.
That's another matter for render engines whose have a completely different learning curve tho...

 

[Deleted member 4406778]

I don't know if you have any technical background or not but once you understand the basic concepts of programming and algorithms, using Python (for renpy at least) isn't hard at all.
That's another matter for render engines whose have a completely different learning curve tho...

Nah no technical background, it's something I've been wanting to learn for a while though (coding stuff) but haven't had time really, I'll be looking into everything now since I have a lot of time on my hands so hopefully by next year I have some kind of understanding and proficiency using renpy and Daz/blender

Thanks for your response, appreciate it

 

[TDoddery]

Just download Daz and Ren'py and start fucking about with them. If you're half way capable you'll figure something out. It's not like learning to drive a car where errors can actually hurt anyone.

 

[Cap Bottle Cap]

You can also try reading the renpy official documentation here.

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[BPM222]

tbh if you want more than just a visual novel you're just giving yourself needless headaches by using renpy, all the bugs these ren'py sandbox games suffers wouldn't really have been an issue if they just used a proper game engine

plenty of plugins available on other game engines to give you all those renpy features and you'd get to benefit from proper modern game development utilities

 

[DuniX]

tbh if you want more than just a visual novel you're just giving yourself needless headaches by using renpy, all the bugs these ren'py sandbox games suffers wouldn't really have been an issue if they just used a proper game engine

plenty of plugins available on other game engines to give you all those renpy features and you'd get to benefit from proper modern game development utilities

Depends on how you define "Sandbox".
A bunch of stats and "map movement" that is really just changing the BG and "triggers" for the scenes isn't a problem.
I can assure you would code about the same things in a "proper engine", just in a different language and workflow flavor.

The only cases I would say not to use Ren'py is when you want to move around the map on grids like in RPG, in which case use RPG Maker, or as a Strategy Game.
Or when you want your game to be Real Time with a lot of Dynamic Interface Elements or with lots of Mini-Games, like a card game or puzzle game and the like, Unity or Godot is better for that.
You can consider Ren'py for all intents and purposes a "turn based game" based on how the Interact function works.
Or you want it to be 3D, in which case Unreal or Unity.