HTML Secretary [v1.0.4.3] [Deedee]

[ffive]

4) the boss lady isn't written well, she feels very artificial and doesn't give me any desire to submit or even interact with her, which is required apparently.

It's not required for you to want to submit to the boss. There's specific variants of the story for these who don't and (try to) oppose, in fact.

 

[Night]

Is the feminine transformation still forced?

If you mean, is it avoidable? then no it's not and according to what I read on discord it will never be avoidable as it's the central theme. In the enthusiastic and voluntary styles you basically do it to yourself in which case it's not technically forced. Forced physical TF is gated in fetish flags along with lots of other fun things.

This game desperately needs a "Skip to day X" option, unless there is a way to do it in which case I could use some help there. Need to skip Monday to Friday and go straight to saturday.

You can skip days if you turn debug on, there is a skip day button, just keep clicking it until you get to the day you want. I wouldn't recommend using it though (might break stuff).

 

[Einstien2409]

You can skip days if you turn debug on, there is a skip day button, just keep clicking it until you get to the day you want. I wouldn't recommend using it though (might break stuff).

This doesn't exactly work. It will stop you for every event and it counts as forwarding time so the next day you are full on fatigue and everything.

 

[qwsaq]

You didn't explain jack shit. STFU, look at the other guy. He explains why it wont work. Its you. Read then talk.

I'll break it down for you:
You're asking for the option to skip days, specifically work days. To that I responded with two points:

1. Your weekly income depends on your performance at work.
2. Work is where story events occur.

So if you want to skip work, you must answer two questions:

1. How is work performance determined for skipped days? This can easily become an "infinite money" exploit.
2. How are story events handled?

This is why I said your suggestion simply doesn't make sense. You're effectively asking for the option to not play the game.
That already exists.

 

[Britaniayup]

So is the game "complete" at this point?

 

[harvercode]

uh female protag or trans protag which is it?

 

[Axel34]

uh female protag or trans protag which is it?

Original protagonist gender is male. Feminization ain't avoidable, but you can choose type of feminization you prefer the most: male-to-sissy (keeping breasts to a minimum size is still very difficult, but possible), male-to-female with a penis, male-to-female with a vagina, male-to-female with both: penis and vagina. You may be "he", "she" or "they". You may be submissive, switch or dominant (in a limited way). On the path to feminization you can be voluntary (you want it), obedient (you do as you're told), forced (path of resistance), mercantile (greedy, "all for money" style). Chastity cage are optional too.

 

[harvercode]

Original protagonist gender is male. Feminization ain't avoidable, but you can choose type of feminization you prefer the most: male-to-sissy (keeping breasts to a minimum size is still very difficult, but possible), male-to-female with a penis, male-to-female with a vagina, male-to-female with both: penis and vagina. You may be "he", "she" or "they". You may be submissive, switch or dominant (in a limited way). On the path to feminization you can be voluntary (you want it), obedient (you do as you're told), forced (path of resistance), mercantile (greedy, "all for money" style). Chastity cage are optional too.

oh thanks for clarifying i just thought it was just m2f with a penis kind of one

 

[hatass]

It's not required for you to want to submit to the boss. There's specific variants of the story for these who don't and (try to) oppose, in fact.

Let me rephrase that. I just don't want to read anything written with that character in the scene. It's not fun for me.

I'll break it down for you:
You're asking for the option to skip days, specifically work days. To that I responded with two points:

1. Your weekly income depends on your performance at work.
2. Work is where story events occur.

So if you want to skip work, you must answer two questions:

1. How is work performance determined for skipped days? This can easily become an "infinite money" exploit.
2. How are story events handled?

This is why I said your suggestion simply doesn't make sense. You're effectively asking for the option to not play the game.
That already exists.

What exactly is so valuable about having to grind for money unless you're going for "I must get femmed to not be broke" approach? Even if you do, what's wrong with using alternative methods of earning money? Oh, like prostitution, already a mechanic in the game?

Work performance is ALREADY fast-forwardable because of how basic the algorithm is. It's just subject to random bullshit cancelling the fast-forward.

And no, grinding for money during repetitive office work isn't "playing the game", it's corruption of various kinds that different scenes react to. You know, the actual fun parts. Money is barely necessary for this.

That said, you're not wrong. That's exactly why I advocated for looking up scenes in the HTML file as opposed to spending dozens of hours of my time to locate a 2 paragraph passage I'm interested.

 

[ffive]

Let me rephrase that. I just don't want to read anything written with that character in the scene. It's not fun for me.

In this case, i'm afraid you're out of luck. MC's boss is the story's primary antagonist and she's central to the game's main plot.

 

[hatass]

In this case, i'm afraid you're out of luck. MC's boss is the story's primary antagonist and she's central to the game's main plot.

Out of curiosity, which path limits her involvement as much as possible? I tried to just agree to everything she was offering in the beginning feminization wise, but that didn't seem to matter and just... broke the game in several ways...

 

[ffive]

Out of curiosity, which path limits her involvement as much as possible?

I'm not sure if there's really such thing, the paths mostly differ by the methods (either MC complies, or they're forced to undergo the changes) There's some optional events which hinge on having positive relationship and accepting Antlers as MC's owner, but i doubt avoiding these will make much of difference if you can't put up with the character in the first place.

 

[qwsaq]

And no, grinding for money during repetitive office work isn't "playing the game", it's corruption of various kinds that different scenes react to.

This is, at its core, a money/time management game. While the relevance of money drops off as alternative sources of income become available, its presence as a mechanic primarily impacts the early game.
Would you prefer the player be allowed to fast-forward several weeks, uninterrupted, and stack up their weekly earnings without consequence? I know that's not your intention, but it will be the result of certain implementations of this.

Not to mention the irony of playing a game called "Secretary" while insisting on an option to skip the parts where you're working as a secretary.

 

[Der Maskierte]

Let me rephrase that. I just don't want to read anything written with that character in the scene. It's not fun for me.

If you keep your submissiveness low at certain points of the story and stay strong against mind control, you can plan your revenge

Everybody loves a comeback
So come on back now, comeback, comeback
Everybody loves the underdog
Singing, that's my dog, that's my dog

 

[hatass]

This is, at its core, a money/time management game. While the relevance of money drops off as alternative sources of income become available, its presence as a mechanic primarily impacts the early game.
Would you prefer the player be allowed to fast-forward several weeks, uninterrupted, and stack up their weekly earnings without consequence? I know that's not your intention, but it will be the result of certain implementations of this.

I disagree. At its core it's a porn game. Money/time management is neither interesting nor rewarding. If this was a money/time management game it would be a really bad one. At best these mechanics + fatigue + showering etc are meant to give a bit of a "life sim" feel to make the journey of feminization feel kinda "authentic". The problem is that since the main antagonist gives me absolutely no desire to submit to her AND the game gives you the option to just throw away your dignity and masculinity immediately the point is kind of moot, it doesn't ever feel realistic, just like a chore to grind out to finally get to the porn.
An easy solution would just be to lift restrictions on content. Let you meet your friends whenever you want, for example. Don't limit cleaning apartments to once per day. Don't limit animal events to once per day. Don't move animals randomly from room to room, let me choose. Again, it's not like the game pretends that you MUST take this hardcore "realistic" journey. You can get it all, heels, boobs and vagina from your first conversation with the bossgirl for god's sakes, but cannot meet your friend on a Thursday? Come on.

Not to mention the irony of playing a game called "Secretary" while insisting on an option to skip the parts where you're working as a secretary.

It sure is ironic that those parts are a roadblock to having fun with the game, yes.

Frankly there are already a couple excellent reviews on this site detailing the problems both with the incessant grind and the bosslady. Give them a read.

If you keep your submissiveness low at certain points of the story and stay strong against mind control, you can plan your revenge

I don't want to keep my submissiveness low. I just have no desire to submit to this particular character. Honestly if that's the take the game has on being submissive then I vehemently disagree with it.

 

[Shadey99]

Hello, I just recently started playing this and I seem to be at an awkward point where I'm not sure what I'm meant to do.

My feminization level suggests I should be wearing women's clothes rather than unisex ones, but I'm so poor I can't afford to do it on my own and there doesn't seem to be an event pushing me to... Also Mrs Antlers shows me a system to track my employment progress, but it suggests I get a typing test and some other things that I talk to her about... And then nothing else happens...? I'm a bit confused what my next step should really be...

 

[ffive]

An easy solution would just be to lift restrictions on content.

It seems that instead of reworking entire game it'd be easier to just give you what you actually want, i.e. just a dump of the sex scenes in a "gallery"* or whatever.

*) or more like "library" since it's all just text.

 

[hatass]

It seems that instead of reworking entire game it'd be easier to just give you what you actually want, i.e. just a dump of the sex scenes in a "gallery"* or whatever.

*) or more like "library" since it's all just text.

Yeah, making a good game is pretty hard, but a library of smut sure is better than a bad game. Thankfully there's no need for that as the game is HTML, meaning you can just read the entirety of it in a text editor. Which I totally recommend.

 

[qwsaq]

I disagree. At its core it's a porn game. Money/time management is neither interesting nor rewarding. If this was a money/time management game it would be a really bad one. At best these mechanics + fatigue + showering etc are meant to give a bit of a "life sim" feel to make the journey of feminization feel kinda "authentic". The problem is that since the main antagonist gives me absolutely no desire to submit to her AND the game gives you the option to just throw away your dignity and masculinity immediately the point is kind of moot, it doesn't ever feel realistic, just like a chore to grind out to finally get to the porn.
An easy solution would just be to lift restrictions on content. Let you meet your friends whenever you want, for example. Don't limit cleaning apartments to once per day. Don't limit animal events to once per day. Don't move animals randomly from room to room, let me choose. Again, it's not like the game pretends that you MUST take this hardcore "realistic" journey. You can get it all, heels, boobs and vagina from your first conversation with the bossgirl for god's sakes, but cannot meet your friend on a Thursday? Come on.


It sure is ironic that those parts are a roadblock to having fun with the game, yes.

Frankly there are already a couple excellent reviews on this site detailing the problems both with the incessant grind and the bosslady. Give them a read.


I don't want to keep my submissiveness low. I just have no desire to submit to this particular character. Honestly if that's the take the game has on being submissive then I vehemently disagree with it.

It simply appears you don't like playing this game.
The review average is 4/5 stars so it seems the majority is against you.

Stop sperging.

 

[Axel34]

Yeah, making a good game is pretty hard, but a library of smut sure is better than a bad game.

Well for me it's one of the greatest text based games of all! Better than CoC2 and TiTS, and very much more fun and comfortable to play than Degrees of Lewdity or Lilith's Throne, even though all this games are great too! The game is actually a rare example of a good implementation of a life simulator and a sandbox.