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[sashkah]

Attack the argument not the person. Besides, it's ridiculous to call someone a bigot for holding a traditional view of a woman.

So you admit he's a grifter (something VERY significant when analyzing anything a person is saying), but follow him anyway... curious. Also, hot tip: 95%+ of the time anyone holding forth their "traditional views" (ding, ding ding, appeal to tradition welcome to logical falacy land, population: you) on anything can more accurately be read as "my daddy was a racist misogynist, and I'm a racist misogynist, but actually that's a good thing and wasn't the world better when "those people" knew their place."

 

[ItzSpc]

So you admit he's a grifter (something VERY significant when analyzing anything a person is saying), but follow him anyway... curious. Also, hot tip: 95%+ of the time anyone holding forth their "traditional views" (ding, ding ding, appeal to tradition welcome to logical falacy land, population: you) on anything can more accurately be read as "my daddy was a racist misogynist, and I'm a racist misogynist, but actually that's a good thing and wasn't the world better when "those people" knew their place."

You're trying to redefine the word woman from being something you are born as, into a mere identity, (which ignores medical science) while simutaneously calling anyone who disagrees with the notion as "grifters, racists and misogynists". That level of name calling and abuse of cancel culture is pathetic really.

The last thing I'll say is that this isn't the place to debate politics, people have already asked us not to debate in this thread, so take the high road and agree to disagree.

 

[wastelandQueen]

You're trying to redefine the word woman from being something you are born as, into a mere identity, (which ignores medical science) while simutaneously calling anyone who disagrees with the notion as "grifters, racists and misogynists". That level of name calling and abuse of cancel culture is pathetic really.

The last thing I'll say is that this isn't the place to debate politics, people have already asked us not to debate in this thread, so take the high road and agree to disagree.

buddy, you're just wrong and arguing with the person who's writing the game you're jerking off to. and it's full of Sashka's politics. like, just take the L and find a new game to go be weird about.

 

[cheddy413]

Wish it was possible to either start as female, or become full female somehow... sissy stuff is just not my thing...

 

[gregers]

Wish it was possible to either start as female, or become full female somehow... sissy stuff is just not my thing...

Gender affirmative surgery (vaginoplasty) becomes an option a ways into the game. But yeah, it's a sissification fantasy game, not a game about the realities of being trans.

 

[Z - Reborn]

So you admit he's a grifter (something VERY significant when analyzing anything a person is saying), but follow him anyway... curious. Also, hot tip: 95%+ of the time anyone holding forth their "traditional views" (ding, ding ding, appeal to tradition welcome to logical falacy land, population: you) on anything can more accurately be read as "my daddy was a racist misogynist, and I'm a racist misogynist, but actually that's a good thing and wasn't the world better when "those people" knew their place."

I think far more important than someone's political views is how he's able to effectively articulate them, and let me tell you, this little back and forth did you no favors. You're doing a disservice to your own cause.

 

[Jac3]

I think far more important than someone's political views is how he's able to effectively articulate them, and let me tell you, this little back and forth did you no favors. You're doing a disservice to your own cause.

Being good at public speaking doesn't make a person more morally correct. No amount of articulation can make bigotry less bigoted

 

[sashkah]

I think far more important than someone's political views is how he's able to effectively articulate them, and let me tell you, this little back and forth did you no favors. You're doing a disservice to your own cause.

Facts don't care about your feelings. I'm disinterested in pandering to bigots that were never interested in a good faith argument in the first place. If you don't like a blunt summary of your beliefs, maybe consider having better ideas.

 

[Cutie-pie]

Anyone know the item Id's to debug spawn them?

 

[Z - Reborn]

Being good at public speaking doesn't make a person more morally correct.

Perhaps so, but it does make for a more successful one without a doubt, as no matter how impopular someone views may be, if that someone is very good at articulating them, he's going to eventually win someone over. Think cult leaders for your extreme example.

On the other hand someone that just screams insults will only distance others from his own message, which is why I said that he was doing a disservice to his own cause.

I'm disinterested in pandering to bigots that were never interested in a good faith argument in the first place.

Doesn't really matter though. Even if you "weren't interested" you still don't come out looking good by throwing insults around, and you still put your own ideas under a bad light because of it.

Regardless how would you know about any of that?! It was you who lost composure, not him. You never gave him a chance to "show his true colors" if he had any, and frankly by calling him a bigot without actually having heard his point of view is simple small-mindedness.

I'm afraid that what you see as a "good faith argument" is just someone agreeing with you, and unfortunately you're far from alone in that. In any case I said my piece, take from that what you will.

 

[Jac3]

Never debate with a bigot. That just gives their stance legitimacy that it doesn't deserve

 

[madchef]

Gender affirmative surgery (vaginoplasty) becomes an option a ways into the game. But yeah, it's a sissification fantasy game, not a game about the realities of being trans.

And even less about realities of being a woman.

 

[Ellipses321]

How exactly are you supposed to trigger the greed variants for the after work party and subsequent dress code?
I met the stat requirements, but even after reading the contract I never seemed to get an option to negotiate.

 

[infiniteduress]

I can't believe people are playing this game, and think stuff like that, when the game is so clearly written to be affirming and queer/trans positive.

Affirming? Positive? Bu... But without the shame, how am I supposed to get aroused? You've ruined this game for me! sniffles

 

[sashkah]

How exactly are you supposed to trigger the greed variants for the after work party and subsequent dress code?
I met the stat requirements, but even after reading the contract I never seemed to get an option to negotiate.

I think you're asking about multiple things here, the female clothing: money option comes from accepting the manager's offer to attend the after-work party for money, it does not involve the contract.

 

[Ellipses321]

I think you're asking about multiple things here, the female clothing: money option comes from accepting the manager's offer to attend the after-work party for money, it does not involve the contract.

They're inextricably linked as the latter progresses immediately after the former.

I'd also prefer if someone other than yourself answers the question.

 

[madchef]

I can't believe people are playing this game, and think stuff like that, when the game is so clearly written to be affirming and queer/trans positive.

Affirming and positive? This game? A porn story of an unremarkable man turned (by deception or force, if he does not cooperate) into a cum and piss drenched, sex-obsessed, pink latex-clad, submissive whore with lactating tits who will not say 'no' to anyone or anything that wants a fuck including a border collie (of all dog breeds) and a pot plant? And the world they live in is as patriarchal as fuck, with those at the very top of the society clearly being males (with beards to boot), the middle management possessing phallic symbols of dominance, be these real dicks or strapons, while everyone beneath them is either female or feminized, whether they like it or not.

Are you sure about this?

 

[Durgeth]

It'd be cool if there were visible augments. Having cybernetic arms would look great.

 

[sashkah]

It'd be cool if there were visible augments. Having cybernetic arms would look great.

The issue is twofold art, and potential scenes variants to acknowledge such. The former is the eternal bottleneck to development (since it's something I personally cannot do), the latter is a more nebulous unknown in terms of breaking verisimilitude and such.

 

[gregers]

sashkah,

1) Loaded a save from (in-game) Wednesday 30 November, triggered an end-of-month evaluation and payment, with some slightly confusing dialogue about whether the MC was still on probation or not (this is deep in stage 4, but before the classes/re-hiring interview have triggered). But then on the next day, there was the regular end-of-week evaluation, for which the MC obviously failed to meet standards, as it'd only been a day since the last one:

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2) The anal capstone inspection sends the MC back to work without getting dressed.

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I'll message you a save for each of these.


Edited to add:

3) If hiring Candy for her weekend event in event_barkeeper_talk_barista_2, you get two "Back to the bar" links. One of them leads to event_barkeeper_talk_barista_3 and the event being booked, the other just leads back inside The Usual Place.

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(The second "Back to the bar." link should be part of the else statement directly above it, I think.)