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If you mean when she schedules a weekend meet-up, just wait outside the mall for her to show up.
Very much my cup of tea but having more options is always nice.
This game is just a lot comfier than most femdom games, I don't feel icky when post nut clarity hits, I don't feel like I've witnessed basically a very dark story if you take away the porn of most femdom games. It rides on that line very well, having some really hardcore fetishes but still not coming off as oppressive as some other titles. And I do love that The Manager wasn't made to be some sort of villain.
Great game, very much enjoying the general openness in terms of choice, rather then just forced into being a weak cuck. Im having issues with the janitor though, on the task list everything is checked, I have the special clothes, the stolen heels, paddle, boobs, and the makeup/hair, only when i go to the meeting the Janitor rejects it. Any ideas?
Unfortunately, i can't leave the house without a bra/stockings so im forced to have them too with no where to change before janitor shows up.
Just a point of curiosity, is it possible to sex Antlers? Seems weird being her slave, and she doesn't take advantage other then in rare cases and its always just oral sex. Curious because with cock upgrades, she clearly seems to like it, per the dialogue. Plus, all the other managers definitely seem to use their secretaries for sex. Weird she has to rely on messing around with outside parties unless its purely for cucking the player.
Plus, a funny thing I've noted, it seems like 99% of people in these games have cocks, and the very few ones who do have vaginas never use them other then for obvious cuck scenes. While outside of those, they just peg everyone. Makes you wonder how people even exist in this world if no one is breeding lol
Unfortunately, i can't leave the house without a bra/stockings so im forced to have them too with no where to change before janitor shows up.
Just a point of curiosity, is it possible to sex Antlers? Seems weird being her slave, and she doesn't take advantage other then in rare cases and its always just oral sex. Curious because with cock upgrades, she clearly seems to like it, per the dialogue. Plus, all the other managers definitely seem to use their secretaries for sex. Weird she has to rely on messing around with outside parties unless its purely for cucking the player.
Plus, a funny thing I've noted, it seems like 99% of people in these games have cocks, and the very few ones who do have vaginas never use them other then for obvious cuck scenes. While outside of those, they just peg everyone. Makes you wonder how people even exist in this world if no one is breeding lol
"No one" is a bold presumption. It's a corporate dystopia, the top managers aren't going to do the work of the breeding stock, much like you don't see them working as cows even though they have breasts :V
Well I was merely basing my presumption on day to day interactions and events out in the world amongst the everyday peons. I've not seen any pregnant people or heard any mention of anyone having children or there even being children anywhere, plus it seems even the hucows are just milk dispensers and not pregnant. I mean you can visit the mall, gym, etc and interact with people not employed by the company afterall.
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I don't get at all how anyone could not read Antlers as a villain, she's the primary force in the enslavement of the MC; she'll only be (somewhat) gentle as long as he does exactly as she demands. It's cool that you have a different reading, though.
Again that probably comes back to the amount of options in the game: If you play the MC as more willing, you'll see less of the villainous side of Antlers.
I have no special insight, but I assume that the devs have wanted to avoid children in a porn-heavy game for the obvious reasons.
As for your previous point, there are several scenes scattered around with oldfashioned penis-in-vagina sex purely for enjoyment though. The MC has a few random encounters (e.g. the maid in the mall toilets), Antlers can have her affair with Bob, etc. But you're right that it's not a major plank, which is perhaps inconsistent worldbuilding but understandable given the theme of the game.
Fair enough, but then i think this is pretty common for VNs and even fiction in general, children and/or pregnancy is rarely mentioned (unless it's significant for the plot). For AVNs especially having children anywhere in the picture is a risk because inevitably someone will complain these children aren't, or are, fuckable.
In my experience there's a convenient turning point of sorts fairly early in the game, when the MC is asked to attend corporate party (and put on a dress). I could remember it wrong (it's been a while) but it came across as a situation where the MC could voluntarily lend a hand rather than just be forced into things, so even if up to that point i've played the MC as (trying to) resist/stall what was being done to him, i've decided to go along with it. The resulting sequence did a nice job providing some insight and depth to the manager's character, and in turn made it easier to cooperate with her, which in turn has her apparently mellow out and warm up to the MC, forming a self-reinforcing loop.
I certainly get that about children and normally, it doesnt stand out much but I think I just noticed this because of how great the writing is and how immersive the game as a whole is. Its engaging and fun beyond the sex bits, and you have more reason to become engaged in the world and enjoy all the content and stories these interesting characters have.
That being said, not complaining, my observation is more just from being immersed so much in this world. Would be cool though if pregnancy became an added fetish, no child birth but the ability to impregnate characters or even become pregnant yourself.
To me it seems like people start the game, and then insert their own selves and ignore that MC is not really being forced all that much, even on forced path. Or people just skim over text idk. There are much more controlling events but they are mostly gated behind specific therapist toggles. Forced path Antlers and pissed off at you specifically is the closest one to your vision of her. The main character is self insert for the player BUT they very much have their own attitude towars the events (which obviously change with the events), and they do not read as your typical, bad villain femdom vs poor protagonist. There IS a vaillain (or two) in this story but its not Antlers IMO.
That being said what matters is the author's intent above all, if I read a quote from the dev that she was meant to be a villain then you are right, no two ways about it, just like you can't tell Tolkien that his work is about WWII.
Edit: I worded that poorly, author's intent is not all that matters, since someone can do a poor job at executing their idea, but I just never felt like I wanted to get revenge on Miss Antler even with all the hardcore fetishes turned on and forced path, it never felt like she was the enemy idk how to explain it. She is not entirely friendly character, but I don't think she goes far enough to be considered the villain, every path has some explanation over how MC actually did kinda want this to happen whether subconciously or not, if we didn't know his/her thoughts it would feel like a cop-out.
For me example of villain femdom mistress is Sissy Girlfriend Experiment girlfriend, now that one is 100% a villain. Or wife in moving down.
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I remember an outstanding event with Miss Antler :
It was a weekend company event with a pony car race and Miss Antler was the sexy pony and mc whipped her to victory.
This event destroyed Miss Antler's authority.
It was a weekend company event with a pony car race and Miss Antler was the sexy pony and mc whipped her to victory.
This event destroyed Miss Antler's authority.
I don't think it does so, necessarily -- if you observe the other competitors beforehand to get yourself prepared, there's a brief lesson there about how momentarily relinquishing control is a way to strengthen the bond between dominant and their disciple, by expressing trust. That's basically what it is, and Antlers can wind up looking cool as fuck if you pull off a win.
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Yeah, there are a few events like that that show off Antlers' superior strength compared to her fellow directors, while hammering home the point that she's also a part of the corporate hierarchy. She doesn't need to rely on cheap theatrics to reinforce her control. The contrast to whats-his-name the rival manager who is consistently shown to be crude and primitive in his domination is fairly marked.
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ffive pointed to one key event above for the dynamics of their relationship, but to me the turning point is Antlers' home visit to the MC, where he has the chance to tell her he hates what she's doing to him. If you've triggered her 'cruel' attitude by resisting so far she'll respond with "tough shit you dumb bitch", if not with some variation of "well, that's too bad, because it's going to happen anyway, nothing I can do". The latter didn't wash at Nuremberg and it doesn't wash for me; I prefer the 'cruel' response as it is at least honest and doesn't attempt to evade responsibility.
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Anyone else run into this: Sometimes Antlers decides to take your key for an extended time; but then she punishes you for not having your key. Have seen this a couple times now. A bug?
Sure sounds like a bug, if you have time visit their discord and post the bug with your save file attached.
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I've seen that now and then, e.g. when using the warp system to skip ahead, but yeah, sounds like a bug. If you can retrace the exact circumstances + ideally upload a save, that'll probably help.
Thanks. I was kind of scratching my head because it's almost something that would be in character for her to do; except there's no text that comments on it.