VN Ren'Py Secrets in Focus [Ch.2 v0.22] [Studio BMK]

[SpyderArachnid]

I mostly agree, but there are a couple of times when I don't mind. Mainly, when it's a short intro, or the end of an update. I'm pretty sure we aren't usually supposed to mention other games... but I feel like I have to specifically point out the between-chapters moments in My Time With You. They're slightly different but still similar to what I mentioned, which you can often find in games. (Especially the intro. Honestly, I feel like almost everyone does it for an intro, but not nearly as many do to end an update/chapter.)

Intros and end of updates are fine, cause it's usually explaining how the game works, and at the end, saying thanks for playing and giving an update to what comes next.

But here... here you got the dev jumping in the middle of conversations. Like, something is said, and the dev jumps in and says it is foreshadowing. It's like, alright thanks for the spoiler/obviousness. Or when the MC references something, and the dev jumps in to go "Get it? Remember that? etc etc". Or just the dev making a random comment on something being said.

It's just not needed and pulls you out of the story when Devs break the fourth wall. I personally find it annoying.

 

[Rake Tyler]

looks good so as soon as I get a chance I'll check out the game

 

[JennaJJ]

... Thx 4 the share ...

 

[Anyn44]

Is this NTR or not?

 

[Bullyoukos]

What is with all these AI Slop VN's lately?

It's been going on for 2 years so I wouldn't call it "lately". And the "what's with" is simple: It made it 10 times simpler and cheaper for anyone who comes up with an idea to materialize it.

 

[Bullyoukos]

Yea, it's a pretty curious trend.

It's not. You can call it "path of least resistance" or you can call it "laziness" but it simply is human nature. Why make something harder when the same thing but easier works? Everyone simply uses the same checkpoint of one of the most famous western artists because it also probably is the highest rated in whatever site lists checkpoints.

 

[Araxnh]

Without NTR, after a few episodes it will start to get boring.

 

[StudioBMK]

So, after trying it, it wasn't too bad. Besides the issues I mentioned above already (custom name not working), it was interesting.

Decent amount of content for a start. Sarcasm is everyone's forte it seems, but at least it is not overly done to the point of nauseating. But the characters are enjoyable at least.

Like I mentioned before though, the fourth wall breaking really needs to go. Personally, that kind of thing annoys me more than anything. Just a dev jumping into their own story to make "witty" comments on their own writing. It's like watching someone tell themself a joke and then laugh at it.

But overall, it seems interesting enough. Leaves you on a mystery cliffhanger which was intriguing at least. So, yeah. Nice job. Needs a bit of polish here and there, but otherwise, not too bad. Thanks, and best of luck with this.

Hey man, thanks for giving my game a try! And thanks for the bug report and feedback.

I think the general consensus is that 4th wall breaks are not popular. I've just uploaded version 0.1.1, I fixed the bug with the custom name and removed the 4th wall breaks.

 

[StudioBMK]

So this is the new AI poster girl in every game now?

I did my best to diversify the different girls. I haven't seen my "Ember" yet, but I've been so focused on writing the game that I haven't played myself for a while.

Can you point me to a game where you found a similar model?

 

[StudioBMK]

StudioBMK, brother, not sure where you are going with this story/game, but, my man, you had me with the pic of this super hot redhead. What a cutie and I love cuties, especially redheads. Will she play with her stepbrother? Can she be corrupted? Hoping there will be stats for sex acts and corruption as she slides down the rabbit hole. If you are going in that direction. Best of luck. Would love to see her eyes a more deeper emerald green though.

Thanks dude!

There will certainly be a path with Ember and enough fun to be had. I need to do a little investigation in regards to Patreon and stepsisters before that happens, else I might need to change the relationship a bit.

 

[StudioBMK]

It's not. You can call it "path of least resistance" or you can call it "laziness" but it simply is human nature. Why make something harder when the same thing but easier works? Everyone simply uses the same checkpoint of one of the most famous western artists because it also probably is the highest rated in whatever site lists checkpoints.

I don't disagree on your first point. I've been working with AI generation for a while now and I know absolutely nothing about Daz for instance. So for me personally the choice was easy to make.

I understand the hate AI gets when 10 similar NTR phone games are released in a week. But this is certainly not that. And as mentioned, I tried to work hard on consistency and the diversity of the characters. And I'm sure (almost) no one has used the model I'm using. But to be fair, some models do tend to look alike.

Ultimately it's a combination of the story and the visuals, I'm hoping the story will be so good that it might remove the hurdle that it's AI generated.

And there's nothing I hate more than having to wait a year between updates on my favorite games. With this way of working, I'm able to focus more time on the story and putting out more frequent updates than the average we've seen.

 

[Sterkh90]

lol I'm so used to NTR/NTS AI games with the redhead that I almost instinctively clicked on ignore.

 

[StudioBMK]

lol I'm so used to NTR/NTS AI games with the redhead that I almost instinctively clicked on ignore.

Glad you stuck around then!

I'm more into romantic paths and not a fan of NTR, there will be several LI's. Although I might have some characters that are not for romance, just for having some fun

 

[c0mh1x]

I did my best to diversify the different girls. I haven't seen my "Ember" yet, but I've been so focused on writing the game that I haven't played myself for a while.

Can you point me to a game where you found a similar model?

literally all AI VN with redhead in female prota.


Mila AI for the most famous. the rest are 0.1 without follow-up which are part of the AI VN tsunami.

 

[Machete]

What is with all these AI Slop VN's lately?

I wouldn't say that AI equals slop. There are AI games that are pretty good. Of course slop developers found quite the Holy Grail with AI art, but when a dev is out to do a good job i rather enjoy AI art. Being 2D and kinda cartoonish it has more vivid albeith sometimes exagerate, espressions that i enjoy.

The can be, so far, the concern that all AI girls and guys look pretty much the same. It's true but i guess it will improve rather fast. But so it's true for 3D modelling games, where you see the same base models popping up everywhere swapping the same hairstyles, so...

This game here looks promising. I'll be following.

 

[Nimbus Commando]

Finally, a none cuck AI game about time.

 

[CutieLvr]

Thanks dude!

There will certainly be a path with Ember and enough fun to be had. I need to do a little investigation in regards to Patreon and stepsisters before that happens, else I might need to change the relationship a bit.

Ok cool, as you may know, there are plenty of devs who have Patreon support who have managed to find ways around Patreons stupid I-rules. Do whatever is comfortable for you, my friend. We I-lovers will be here anyway.

 

[housekinokuni1974]

No animated, a damn shame if you ask me

 

[StudioBMK]

literally all AI VN with redhead in female prota.


Mila AI for the most famous. the rest are 0.1 without follow-up which are part of the AI VN tsunami.

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I guess it depends on what you call similar. Yes, Ember is a redhead and one of the main LI's. But I think the facial features, body type and things like freckles yes/no are quite different.

To be fair, redheads with green eyes are a bit of a highly sought after unicorn in 18+ visual novels.

 

[StudioBMK]

No animated, a damn shame if you ask me

Not in chapter 1. I will surely work on animated sex scenes. Development of AI generative animation is going really fast, so I will definitely be looking into the possibilities there.