Ambarino

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What do I avoid to keep Rowan and Alexia relationship at the top? I don't mind sharing her with other characters, escpecially Greyhide and X'Za, but Andras can go to hell. I want them to rule the world together as a happy couple with lots of sexslaves.

Also, I just got Helayne and Alexia went to her own room. How/when do I get her back?
 

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What do I avoid to keep Rowan and Alexia relationship at the top? I don't mind sharing her with other characters, escpecially Greyhide and X'Za, but Andras can go to hell. I want them to rule the world together as a happy couple with lots of sexslaves.

Also, I just got Helayne and Alexia went to her own room. How/when do I get her back?
1) Keeping their relationship at top:
a) Avoid getting hard locked onto either of the NTR paths. You can dabble- but don't get locked. There could be ways later to knock Alexia off the NTR pathings- but right now they don't exist and the Kink is definitionally 'steal your partner' so it'd be very surprising if it didn't lead to that.
b) Make choices that support your other MC while playing on the other side. X'zaratl pathing and the pregnancy Arc are good for building up Rowan x Alexia's relationship. Have Alexia go to Rowan instead of a twin for help when you can (sadly there isn't much of this type of content yet- but there is some). Be supportive of Alexia in the pregnancy arc and look for ways to solve her issues.
c) Final consideration. Having too many influence points with either twin prevents you from being able to get a Rowan x Alexia sex scene. The catacombs scene. I cannot remember exactly how much influence it was- it was like 5 or something (basically 2 events). There are very few opportunities to reduce the twins influence scores on Lexi (I can only remember 1 event in the scripts) so if you wanna hit this event you gotta be careful dabbling with either twins content prior to the NTR lock as well. The influence points also can also add some rather annoying narrative flavor blurb content to the scripts outside of CGs as well- even at very, very low influence scores; so tread through that according to your tastes.

2) Helanya + Alexia
This is currently a binary path where you cannot have both gals in your room and the gals cannot settle their differences. This plot is really old (2 years +) and is going to be re-worked by T51bwinterized after he completes working on the Liurial NPC arc. So if you want them both in the same room and happy(relatively speaking) with Rowan you need to cross your fingers / wait like me ;-).
 
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DoisacChopper

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I was kinda hoping to read some paragraphs like the ones going on these past few days but anyways I'll just leave some of my thoughts
seeing in my files Seeds of Chaos [v0.2.65] was the last version i was playing on, it has been quite a long while and i was a lil annoyed that my saves were borked but man all the reworked art is amazing, very worth (i hate replaying/rewatching anything in general) been playing a bit every day

also the dialogue choice for rowan saying he is the reason the war was won is hilarious, one of the funniest dialogues I've heard in a porn game since Sengoku Rance, I am kind of inclined to agree with that take though

as an avid futa enjoyer I heckin' love X'Zaratl! but am just curious if she'll ever use anything besides her donger?
 
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rivon

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Ahem i kind of forget about one small thing i wanted to discuss about Helayna plot line.

Helayna bad slave training.

I dont like the fact that Rowan playing a fool pretending he does not understand where it is going. His "I dont know what this collar is for? Is there any control magic on it?"
He basically wears on his neck the same collar with control magic! No one knows better than Rowan how Jazera baubles work!
So no i'm not buying it at all.
If Rowan is going with this path he IS fully aware that Jaserra is giving him another magic mind breaking tool.
Jasera see that Helayna managing to recover and establish some self control and making move to counter it by puting more pressure on her psychic another millstone around her neck.
Its obvious evil act and Rowan should be portrayed at least acknowledging he wants to do this with Helayna for his own pleasure and pervert desires.
The thing with "i do this for her own good" is really lame.

On the other hand Helayna behavior is unbelievable. She is way too okayish with suspiciously looking collar and thats After her experience with the ring, that almost drove her insane! She is like "okay let try this one next" !
She should be deathly afraid of any trinkets at this point.

So i would write this with Helayna being reasonably suspicious and afraid.
She objects and Rowan use manipulation, her love towards him and insecurity to convince her to put on the collar.
Appealing to her guilt. He risked so much for her, go against twins will took her under his wing and after all he have done for her she dont trust him?!
She told him she loves him and now she questions his intentions?!
He ruins relationship with his wife to help her!

This kind of dirty stuff will be delicious.
Also will be nice to fit at least one line with Helayna feeling subconsciously the effect of the collar.
Some premonition she walked in to another trap.
 

klaus17

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Mar 18, 2019
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Is it possible to avoid any Andras X Alexia scenes while having NTR turned on? if so, is there any tips that i should or shouldn't do to avoid it?
because i'm curious how they do NTR in the story, but i hated andras lol
 
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manscout

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Is it possible to avoid any Andras X Alexia scenes while having NTR turned on? if so, is there any tips that i should or shouldn't do to avoid it?
because i'm curious how they do NTR in the story, but i hated andras lol
Mostly you just cut short all interactions between Alexia and Andras whenever you get a chance to, the player takes control of Alexia during most of the scenes that can lead to NTR with Andras so just choose to avoid anything that leads Alexia anywhere close to him and nothing should happen between the two.

There are a couple of events where Rowan might have to challenge Andras (and consequently get his ass kicked) to keep Andras from pursuing Alexia, but those events are pretty rare and minor.
 

klaus17

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Mostly you just cut short all interactions between Alexia and Andras whenever you get a chance to, the player takes control of Alexia during most of the scenes that can lead to NTR with Andras so just choose to avoid anything that leads Alexia anywhere close to him and nothing should happen between the two.

There are a couple of events where Rowan might have to challenge Andras (and consequently get his ass kicked) to keep Andras from pursuing Alexia, but those events are pretty rare and minor.
Okay so basically even if i had NTR turned on, the scenes will still be avoidable with the right dialogue choice right? got it, thanks bro.
 

diebesgrab

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Okay so basically even if i had NTR turned on, the scenes will still be avoidable with the right dialogue choice right? got it, thanks mate.
I’m not 100% positive, but I feel relatively confident in saying that all sex scenes directly involving Rowan or Alexia are avoidable (and virtually all of them are reasonably well telegraphed). The game won’t really throw the protagonists into any sex they don’t—scratch that, any sex the PLAYER doesn’t want.

I can say for certain that all NTR scenes are avoidable, even with NTR on.
 

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manscout

More or less. The part about avoiding him is correct.

I'm pretty sure its just one fight with Andras to avoid NTR on Alexis side though -I thought the other confrontation was one was to avoid Rowan getting fucked himself.

Rowan can actually beat that DC check in the Andras_Is_Stressed event with an 11 roll and then he only sorta beats you up since he is forced to use magic to win. Basically you need to invest 4 or 5 of your initial stat points in the combat skill and then get lucky with your d8 combat roll. You get a very intriguing $ Hidden Stat Point called Andras_Fighting_Weakness if you beat the check- and 100 exp ;-)
 
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More or less. Though I I'm pretty sure its just one fight with Andras to avoid NTR on Alexis side, the I thought- the onther one was to avoid getting fucked himself I thought. Rowan can actually beat that DC check with an 11 and then he only sorta beat you up since he is forced to use magic to win. Basically you need to invest 4 or 5 of your initial stat points in the combat skill and then get lucky with your d8 combat roll. You get a very intriguing $ Hidden Stat Point called Andras_Fighting Weakness if you beat the check- and 100 exp ;-)
manscout

More or less. Though I I'm pretty sure its just one fight with Andras to avoid NTR on Alexis side -I thought the other confrontation was one was to avoid Rowan getting fucked himself. Rowan can actually beat that DC check with an 11 roll and then he only sorta beat you up since he is forced to use magic to win. Basically you need to invest 4 or 5 of your initial stat points in the combat skill and then get lucky with your d8 combat roll. You get a very intriguing $ Hidden Stat Point called Andras_Fighting Weakness if you beat the check- and 100 exp ;-)
:unsure:
 

arcana3

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can we have the change log for the first page? Was waiting to see if it would be updated. helps me now having to redownload the game if its something I'm not intrested in.
 

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- Fixed the three issues causing uncaught exceptions
- Tutorial mine should now trigger at the first mine you visit
- Goblin mine event should not occur until after you have met Cla-min
 
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monk_56

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Even stretching the definition to its very limits, is a bit of an understatement.

Pretty sure most big games have Patreon review their stuff before they post it though- so Patreon is willing to stretch the definition / turn a blind eye a little as well for those bucks.

I was actually fuckin' gobsmacked by how long Ravager lasted on Patreon before it got dunked. That game is basically non-con simulator.

Rein over here acting as the Jean-Luc Picard of Soc. "Make it so."
 

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Luckily patreon seems to draw a line between mind control and rape. I'm not sure what the logic there is but it is there. Regardless it is working towards our benefit so I'm not going to complain.
 
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