Oriandu

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Surprised this isn't implemented site wide
Honestly it really should be a blanket rule. Far too many discussions devolve into a shouting match between people for and against NTR. It's almost as bad as the "NERRR MILKING COW NERRR!!!" arguments that overtake the topics for games like Summertime Saga on a semi regular basis. Thankfully the discussions in this topic tend to veer more towards actual discussions instead of just two sides frothing at each other.
 

Gundamu0079

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Part of what makes NTR work is a certain level of animosity between the people involved that eventually breaks down into something else, but Andras is, well, he's a toxic piece of shit and Rowan is consistently portrayed as someone far too competent to fall for that shit. In general Rowan is not the type of fall victim to NTR. Cheating? Sure, but even though all NTR is cheating not all cheating is NTR. Even at his weakest moments Rowan is alert and aware of himself, it would have to be one hell of a fall from grace for him to submit to that BRD, or that TPV for that matter. I honestly don't think an NTR storyline makes any sort of logical sense for Rowan no matter who the partner is simply because it represents a level of weakness that Rowan has not shown at any point in the game so far. While I have absolutely no interest in the storyline or the scenes, because I'm just not into gay content, I am interested in seeing how it's done as I just don't view it as possible.

Again, though, it's a good thing I'm not writing it as if I was the one writing it then it would end with Rowan revealing he was lying the entire time as he decapitates Andras post coitus... and that wouldn't be NTR.
maybe they'll finally let rowan get the power and dominance over andras
then you can fully humilate and beat him up lol
when this game lets me be pregnant with Andreas' kids, I will be able to die happy
who do you want prego alexia or rowan lmao
 

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It would be more fun to manipulate Andras with his ass so that he kills his sister en route submissive

Greetings
 

Oriandu

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maybe they'll finally let rowan get the power and dominance over andras
then you can fully humilate and beat him up lol


who do you want prego alexia or rowan lmao
Andras could shatter every bone in Rowan's body with a single blow if he actually wanted to. We're roughly at the end of the first arc and for Rowan to actually pull off a win on a level like that would neuter Andras as a threat.
 

Gundamu0079

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Andras could shatter every bone in Rowan's body with a single blow if he actually wanted to. We're roughly at the end of the first arc and for Rowan to actually pull off a win on a level like that would neuter Andras as a threat.
thats why i said maybe he gets some new powers or something...
 

NewTricks

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Yeah, I don't think that Rowan can do much of anything to Andreas physically. Greyhide punched his face in and stomped him flat as a waffle and he basically just stuck his thumb in his mouth and blew himself back up like a loony toons character. If he is going to handle Andras it isn't going to be in a fistfight. Or a swordfight. Or any kind of fight.
 

Skantarios

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Or any kind of fight.
I think we have options:

A) A divine artifact that demons are weak against (I assume they exist in Prothea, we just haven't seen them yet). I can see securing or even creating this being a big plot point in the future

B) Andras recognized he could get killed in battle(and got hurt by a bow) so he can get ganged up on by an entire army loyal to Rowan. I don't care how fast he heals, if we keep chopping limbs off something's gotta give.

C) Drop a really big rock on him, I don't know.

Andras is prideful and easy to goad into a bad fight or at least into staying in a battle that is turning against him. I honestly think Jezera is more dangerous. The moment she thinks things aren't going her way she is gonna teleport away with some BS magic artifact and will be trouble down the line. She needs to be caught completely by surprise which is of course hard as hell considering her proclivities.
 

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I think we have options:

A) A divine artifact that demons are weak against (I assume they exist in Prothea, we just haven't seen them yet). I can see securing or even creating this being a big plot point in the future

B) Andras recognized he could get killed in battle(and got hurt by a bow) so he can get ganged up on by an entire army loyal to Rowan. I don't care how fast he heals, if we keep chopping limbs off something's gotta give.

C) Drop a really big rock on him, I don't know.

Andras is prideful and easy to goad into a bad fight or at least into staying in a battle that is turning against him. I honestly think Jezera is more dangerous. The moment she thinks things aren't going her way she is gonna teleport away with some BS magic artifact and will be trouble down the line. She needs to be caught completely by surprise which is of course hard as hell considering her proclivities.
I mean you're right.
But also, rule number #1.
Porn game.
Jezera is hot. There will be some McGuffin or technique Rowan will get to neutralize her but keep her around as a fuckpet. Or maybe turn her "good" or something.
Just something to neutralize her as a threat but keep her juicy purple ass around.
I'm also sure it will be written more eloquently and with more build up, but there will be a way to deal with her and fuck her.

Gay side, I'm sure there will be way to do that to Andras too and keep him around as a bottom for role reversal.
But considering that the majority of users tend to be straight (I'm imagine) there will probably be some way to yeah, goad him into a losing battle that takes his life.
Helyana's Bow hurt him. Chop off his head, that's all it takes.
Or chop it off then burn it or something.
 

Skantarios

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I mean you're right.
But also, rule number #1.
Porn game.
I mean this is supposed to be a game about playing a good guy getting corrupted (or not) into a bad guy so I can totally see one of the endings being Rowan the now super evil ommnisexual fuck god enslaving/mindbreaking the twins to keep them in his ever expanding harem of men, women and everything in between. We still have 2 games to go right? Plenty of time for a powerup or learning bullshit-no-jutsu.

Just trying to figure out what our current Rowan could do against Andras physically (assuming the magical restrictions were removed) since it was posited Rowan couldn't win in a fight. I think he can since the twins don't strike me as that untouchable if you plan things out better than 1v1'ng them in their own castle. Totally useless exercise of course. If Rowan got the chance to kill them now, we would miss out on the planned sequels. But it's my day off, the house is empty, chores are done and I'm bored.

But considering that the majority of users tend to be straight (I'm imagine) there will probably be some way to yeah, goad him into a losing battle that takes his life.
I'm as straight as an arrow and I would make him my harem bitch just to see the look on his face tbh. I don't need to fap to it to enjoy it.
 

DarkDank

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I mean this is supposed to be a game about playing a good guy getting corrupted (or not) into a bad guy so I can totally see one of the endings being Rowan the now super evil ommnisexual fuck god enslaving/mindbreaking the twins to keep them in his ever expanding harem of men, women and everything in between. We still have 2 games to go right? Plenty of time for a powerup or learning bullshit-no-jutsu.

Just trying to figure out what our current Rowan could do against Andras physically (assuming the magical restrictions were removed) since it was posited Rowan couldn't win in a fight. I think he can since the twins don't strike me as that untouchable if you plan things out better than 1v1'ng them in their own castle. Totally useless exercise of course. If Rowan got the chance to kill them now, we would miss out on the planned sequels. But it's my day off, the house is empty, chores are done and I'm bored.



I'm as straight as an arrow and I would make him my harem bitch just to see the look on his face tbh. I don't need to fap to it to enjoy it.
Given how hyper-sexual the twins are, making them bang each other/the wulump would be a good way to break them, that I don't think will happen because Patreon. Could see that though as a way to break their will completely once you've declawed them so to speak.
Curious though if the devs are against the twins having sexual contact/being involved in a sexual scene together (but not necessarily with each other) strictly because Patreon which is a monetization issue, or if they're grossed out by it.
But I mean its demons, I doubt they'd have the same taboo hangups that humans have.
 
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Shrink potion.

Jezera: Mmmm... Well, Rowan, that was fun. I suppooooooose we should get some work done. Where is that irritating brother of mine?
A series of odd squeaking noises come from Jezera's vagina.
Jezera and Rowan: ?!!
A tiny Andras, covered in Rowan's cum, climbs out of Jezera's vagina looking furious.
Andras, squeaky: I don't know who did this to me, but they will die.
 

Skantarios

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I doubt they'd have the same taboo hangups that humans have.
I'm too lazy to go and look for the particular quote but I feel like it was implied they had sexual contact although it wasn't stated outright. Maybe I'm just misremembering because of how hypersexual and amoral they are.

strictly because Patreon which is a monetization issue
I'd herniate myself laughing if patreon would hinder this game for incest of all things. Yeah, we got mindbreaking demons leading gangraping orcs but they dont bang each other! That's a step too far!

If its because the devs don't want to go there then that's just fine by me. Feels like every other game in the website has incest. I can do with some big tiddy goblin waifu to break the routine.
 

dirheim

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I bought this games some time ago in Steam, is there any major difference to the content in here How easy is to progress, I remember when the game was initially released, that it was really easy to fail because it was almost impossible to earn enough and to progress you had to pay for higher Patreon levels to get the "developer" version, it still happens?
Do the walkthroughs and gallery unlockers works with the Steam version?
 

DarkDank

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I'm too lazy to go and look for the particular quote but I feel like it was implied they had sexual contact although it wasn't stated outright. Maybe I'm just misremembering because of how hypersexual and amoral they are.



I'd herniate myself laughing if patreon would hinder this game for incest of all things. Yeah, we got mindbreaking demons leading gangraping orcs but they dont bang each other! That's a step too far!

If its because the devs don't want to go there then that's just fine by me. Feels like every other game in the website has incest. I can do with some big tiddy goblin waifu to break the routine.
Its more they don't want to risk it.
Some games get away with it, especially if it's big enough that it's buried. Something Unlimited has incest with the sister super heroes for example.
But games that have it as a major fixture get canned, and I can see a lot of devs just not wanting to chance it at all.

I don't need it, just more so curious about their relationship with it, in this Rocky Horror level of depravity.
Though an ending where you throw both of them to the Wulump and they bang each other/the Wulump in the way that the bad end has Rowan and Alexia doing it would be poetic justice.
 
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