Exotic_Otterq

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Till we see our goblin mami with physics defying pregnant milkers- all of the pregnancy play stuff is just noise.
Ain't that the truth. The setting and presentation seems to sell itself on a lot of consequences, and while there are some in the story, there's nothing with the sex scenes because a lot of stuff has to kinda just continue on instead of branching out. Apart from Delane's endings and where Helena ends up, I don't think any sex scene really does anything to the plot. I'm still waiting for Alexia to end up with someone else's kid somewhere along the line from all the hooplah she gets up to with people that aren't Rowan. Plus, like you said, not one person gets pregnant by Rowan when he fucks them. Maybe he needs virility treatments rather than Alexia needing fertility ones.

From what the authors have said, we probably won't see anything that drastic until the last section of the game to help keep things constrained so they don't have to write variants for everything. Might have a pregnancy swarm near the end of the game. Just every woman who Rowan fucked ending up with his kids right about the end.
 
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Jynx_lucky_j

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>the game has optional NTR
>no the game has forced NTR even when disabled in the settings
>no the NTR is optional
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so... which one is it?
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In earlier versions of the game durring the prologue there was a scene in which your spouse appears to be being won over by her demon captor, which lead a some people to conclude that it was leading to inevitable NTR. In the current version you can choose whether she is being won over or see's through the ruse.

However the demons will continue to proposition her through out the game. Every sex scene in the game is optional though, so she won't actually sleep with anyone unless you chose for her to do so. However, I've heard some people say they feel like even if they don't choose for her to cheat, they feel like it is happening off screen, though I personally disagree with that interpretation.

It can be a fairly dark game, and the protagonists are put into difficult situations, but in the end it is always in the players control whether or not they have sex. If you read the text it is generally super obvious where each choice will lead. However if you skip the text or just skim it you might not fully understand the consequences of some choices which may lead you into a sex scene that you didn't anticipate.
 
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There are so many things I like about this game and so many things that just frustrate me. As others have mentioned, there are just too many routes and unnecessary random side stories that go no where. It has a major feeling of 'throwing random stuff against the wall and see what sticks'. The dialogue is all over the place and in many situations does not fit the current narrative/progress of the characters' corruption. The side jobs for Alexia are strange as well. You can be corruption level 3 by the time you start those jobs, and she'll act as a timid little mouse in the beginning even after doing some major character changing things. You can tell that there wasn't a definite plan or direction for this game.

I just replayed through and reread everything (for about the 10th time now) and it's just painfully obvious that his is a 'chaotic' mess. I know they're trying to do clean up at this point, but they have A LOT of work ahead of them. I would rather see them disappear for 6 month and make a clean, properly planned story with logical connecting story elements and character 'corruption' elements, then what they're doing currently. It feels to me that they just keep adding building stories on top of a foundation made of sand. I only say these things because I do really want to see this story/game go somewhere, and I think they have a bunch of random elements that are enticing, but boy is it a mess at this point. Just my opinion overall.
 

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>the game has optional NTR
>no the game has forced NTR even when disabled in the settings
>no the NTR is optional
>x25
so... which one is it?
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I wrote the hideously outdated tentative guides for this game, for what that’s worth, and I can say with full confidence that the two protagonists, Rowan and his wife Alexia, cannot have sex in this game without the player making the choice for them (with the exception of a bad end or two), either on or off screen. A few important characters can, probably most notably Andras, Jezera, and Shaya (the two demon overlords and a literal prostitute).

Disabling NTR in the prologue simply removes the choices that lead to NTR sex scenes (as well as, by extension, the NTR storylines those scenes lead into). NTR, like virtually all sex in the game, is entirely avoidable regardless of whether it’s on or off.
 

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However if you skip the text or just skim it you might not fully understand the consequences of some choices which may lead you into a sex scene that you didn't anticipate.
So the option to remove the ntr-options leaves (some) ntr-options in the game? I get that it is avoidable, but isn't that also the case with the ntr toggled on?
If that's the case, that's a very odd gameplay decision the creators decide to go with.
 

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So the option to remove the ntr-options leaves (some) ntr-options in the game? I get that it is avoidable, but isn't that also the case with the ntr toggled on?
If that's the case, that's a very odd gameplay decision the creators decide to go with.
no, it means that you can still avoid NTR even if you left it on.

ntr off = definitely no ntr.
ntr on = only ntr if you choose for it to happen.
 

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>no ntr option
>shoehorned encounter where Alexis and the minotaur lust for each other
yeah... dropped.
even without the actual fucking taking place, it's already confirmed that alexia is lusting for other guys, clearly demonstrating that NTRing the protagonist is part of her character.
the entire story revolves around NTR and being threatened with NTR. the developers just made the toggle so the game isn't disregarded instantly.
 
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Do people really like Summertime Saga art style better than SoC? What's more, do people really think Summertime Saga style is good? I honestly find it quite ugly.
you are not alone.. and im bewildered why they are the top earner. so many people rave about it like the 2nd coming of christ.
 

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I know this is kind of mean, but a part of me wishes whenever somebody asked this, we had a save on hand from like Week 100 with every bit of content already explored to offer with no further explanation.
I finished game 3-4 times with different chooses and routes and still can't open 3.0.5 content.
 

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does this game still have many "black screens" its has been a long time since i last played.
 

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The art lags one update behind the scene being added to the game. So the scenes that got added in the last update will have their art added in the next update. All the black screens from when you previously played will now have art, but there will be new black screens in the new scenes from the last update. However the black screens are an ever shrinkingly small percentage of all the scenes in the game.
 
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I finished game 3-4 times with different chooses and routes and still can't open 3.0.5 content.
Let us know what scenes you are trying to unlock and we can help you find it.

If you are talking about unlocking the new scene in the art gallery however, the reason would be because (as I replied in the above response to Swordman83) the art for new scenes lags one update behind so the scene added in the 3.0.5 upate wont have art until 3.0.6 which will come out on May 29th and will add more new scenes that will in turn get their art in the July 31st update, and so on.
 

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>no ntr option
>shoehorned encounter where Alexis and the minotaur lust for each other
yeah... dropped.
even without the actual fucking taking place, it's already confirmed that alexia is lusting for other guys, clearly demonstrating that NTRing the protagonist is part of her character.
the entire story revolves around NTR and being threatened with NTR. the developers just made the toggle so the game isn't disregarded instantly.
Of course you are free to dislike the game and not play it. I sincerly hope you find something that better suits your tastes next time. However, I just want to clarify the scene in question for anyone unfamiliar with the game that comes across this discussion.

In the scene in question both Alexia (the wife) and Greyhide (the minotaur) are secretly drugged with an aphrodisiac (this is revealed in detail in a later scene). Due the drug, during their conversation Alexia's thoughts will wander to what Greyhide has under his loincloth. Then you, the player, can either have Alexia ask to see it, or to get a hold of herself and shake it off the thought. Personally, I don't think having a stray lustful thought counts as NTR, I'm not the thought police so as long you don't act on it that is all I care about. On the other hand if you make the choice to have her request the see his dick, that is on you and you don't get to be mad about what comes next.
 
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