Ren'Py Seeds of Chaos [v0.4.10] [Vénus Noire]

desmosome · Sep 17, 2018

yea that way of looking at things is valid too, but the main problem is that it limits the type of characters you can roleplay. Im sure there were Nazi officers like Rowan, but there is still a limit to how much you can push this type of char and still make it believable.

T51bwinterized · Sep 17, 2018

Rowan is an actual protagonist as opposed to a blank slate. There are decisions you can make about him and his nature. About his fetishes, about his willingness to indulge in utilitarian choices. There is no protagonist so full you can't project anything to him. That said, on the spectrum of identification, Rowan is a more distinct character with more distinct motivations then most similar games feature. This is not a bug. This is a feature.

TheHiddenOne · Sep 17, 2018

desmosome said:
yea that way of looking at things is valid too, but the main problem is that it limits the type of characters you can roleplay. Im sure there were Nazi officers like Rowan, but there is still a limit to how much you can push this type of char and still make it believable.

According to my history lessons, survivors recollections and some research on my own, the vast majority was actually thinking that.
The problem is, nearly no-one sees himself as bad or misguided. They either see themselves as people who have to
make harsh decisions because of the harsh circumstances or as people who generally want the best for "the people".

To see yourself as evil you need to truly accept a set of morality and ethic rules and then act in opposition of the morals you believe in yourself.

I think it is harder to create a believable character who seems himself as evil than to create a believable character who sees himself as a victim of circumstances who rationalizes his atrocities away.
Rowan is human and not some sort of demon. (And there are many works of literature who say that the fallen
angels themselves do not believe that they are evil...)

Sorry for the long post, but the matter of evil, morality and self-view in media is very fascinating for me ^_^

Bull654738293847 · Sep 18, 2018

Found this little CG in the game files but I can't find it in game. Any ideas?

UpTheVilla · Sep 18, 2018

Bull654738293847 said:
Found this little CG in the game files but I can't find it in game. Any ideas?

I'm not sure if it's a random village event or if it's tied to a certain one, but the village I got it at was quite far south. Basically, you enter the village and a dude comes up to you and offers you their services.

darkjoker13 · Sep 18, 2018

can anyone give me a save? I play and it's over in 22week
because this game used a lot of English skill and my English skill was suck

TheHiddenOne · Sep 18, 2018

Bull654738293847 said:
Found this little CG in the game files but I can't find it in game. Any ideas?

It is indeed one of the random village events.
One village is willing to submit to Rowan and wants to negotiate their terms. They offer two girls for Rowen as a heads up and if you are convincing they even sent slaves to the twins..

Deleted member 10214 · Sep 19, 2018

FlipFish said:
So when are we going to get this route with Andras?

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Where is this from?

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Found it

RedboysGames · Sep 19, 2018

anyone have save data last version?

JadeKitten · Sep 20, 2018

I'm confused, can you play as a girl in this game or not?

Pink Man · Sep 20, 2018

Freezes on mac version after Helayna sparring session "Rowan didn't have the heart to answer her." There is an "Exception: Possible infinite loop."

I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
Exception: Possible infinite loop.

-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------

Full traceback:
File "game/main_loop.rpyc", line 37, in script call
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File "game/locations/rowans_chambers.rpyc", line 2, in script
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File "/private/var/folders/lq/d_gl52kn3sb7kk8v2mbb_94c0000gn/T/AppTranslocation/5B0A1489-75BA-40EA-9A10-12A38396C5D9/d/seeds-of-chaos.app/Contents/Resources/autorun/renpy/execution.py", line 58, in check_infinite_loop
raise Exception("Possible infinite loop.")
Exception: Possible infinite loop.

Darwin-17.7.0-x86_64-i386-64bit
Ren'Py 7.0.0.196
Seeds of Chaos 0.2.36
Wed Sep 19 19:40:45 2018

FlipFish · Sep 20, 2018

JadeKitten said:
I'm confused, can you play as a girl in this game or not?

There are some sequences where you play as Rowan's wife Alexia, but Rowan is the primary protagonist who you'll be playing as.

JadeKitten · Sep 21, 2018

FlipFish said:
There are some sequences where you play as Rowan's wife Alexia, but Rowan is the primary protagonist who you'll be playing as.

Thanks, guess I'm not interested then.

T51bwinterized · Sep 21, 2018

@JadeKitten I'm sorry to hear that. Please be on the look out for Lord Arioch's upcoming game Jessica's Curse. That one will have a female protaganist!

Pseudonymous Pervert · Sep 22, 2018

Anyone have access to the the shaya dance image that got posted on the Dev's site recently? If so, would you mind sharing it with your fellow peg-legged parrot aficionados? :^)

Pink Man · Sep 22, 2018

Hello, I'm really keen on the workaround for this error, I can't progress without solving it.

I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
Exception: Possible infinite loop.

-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------

Full traceback:
File "game/main_loop.rpyc", line 37, in script call
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File "game/locations/rowans_chambers.rpyc", line 2, in script
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File "/private/var/folders/lq/d_gl52kn3sb7kk8v2mbb_94c0000gn/T/AppTranslocation/5B0A1489-75BA-40EA-9A10-12A38396C5D9/d/seeds-of-chaos.app/Contents/Resources/autorun/renpy/execution.py", line 58, in check_infinite_loop
raise Exception("Possible infinite loop.")
Exception: Possible infinite loop.

Floterite · Sep 22, 2018

bobmob said:
Hello, I'm really keen on the workaround for this error, I can't progress without solving it.

I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
Exception: Possible infinite loop.

-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------

Full traceback:
File "game/main_loop.rpyc", line 37, in script call
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File "game/locations/rowans_chambers.rpyc", line 2, in script
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File "/private/var/folders/lq/d_gl52kn3sb7kk8v2mbb_94c0000gn/T/AppTranslocation/5B0A1489-75BA-40EA-9A10-12A38396C5D9/d/seeds-of-chaos.app/Contents/Resources/autorun/renpy/execution.py", line 58, in check_infinite_loop
raise Exception("Possible infinite loop.")
Exception: Possible infinite loop.

Same thing here, quite the bummer.

Code:

Full traceback:
  File "game/main_loop.rpyc", line 37, in script call
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  File "game/locations/rowans_chambers.rpyc", line 21, in script
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  File "C:\Users\Laptop\Desktop\seeds-of-chaos-0.2.36-pc\renpy\execution.py", line 58, in check_infinite_loop
    raise Exception("Possible infinite loop.")
Exception: Possible infinite loop.

While running game code:
Exception: Possible infinite loop.

baneini · Sep 22, 2018

T51bwinterized said:
@JadeKittenLord Arioch's upcoming game Jessica's Curse. That one will have a female protaganist!

"my desire to have a large number of animations, full voice acting, and more"
"I'm working with a talented cast of ladies can act as convincingly as they can portray sexual scenes (and let me tell you, finding VA's who can act AND do adult work is hard!)"

Who is this game aimed at exactly? Why is voice acting a selling point?

Pseudonymous Pervert · Sep 22, 2018

baneini said:
"my desire to have a large number of animations, full voice acting, and more"
"I'm working with a talented cast of ladies can act as convincingly as they can portray sexual scenes (and let me tell you, finding VA's who can act AND do adult work is hard!)"

Who is this game aimed at exactly? Why is voice acting a selling point?

This insistence on VA's is a serious problem, honestly. It's a lotta money spent because some people just can't use their imagination for character voices.

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