tonicase24
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Ren'Py Seeds of Chaos [v0.4.11a Patreon] [Vénus Noire]
My playthrough Alexia had high corruption when this triggered (post tree scene)
And i told her the truth and said she could use her too to trigger the 3-some
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diebesgrab
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You’re probably going to have to restart, the game’s current build isn’t really made to go very far past Week 60, and if your save is from an older version, that may be another point of incompatibility.
It’s random, so you probably aren’t getting it just because of bad luck. If you have all of those conditions fulfilled, try saving at the end of a week of exploration (the black screen where it says “End of Week [#]”), and then reloading from that save when you know what event is playing afterwards if it isn’t the event you want.
Is there any way to save Delane? I've tried gaining her trust and planning her escape and even the option to have the Orc Matron help her escape but then nothing happens. When I tried to help Tarish but then attempt to escape with her I continue to fail and she dies...again and again..
v0.2.45
-New Rastedel events, including options to ally with Werden (requires Delane to be free), and the continuation of the Jacques ally line
How do you do this?
v0.2.45
-New Rastedel events, including options to ally with Werden (requires Delane to be free), and the continuation of the Jacques ally line
How do you do this?
If memory serves, it should be just a matter of skill checks - either raising the relevant skill or engaging in a generous amount of savescumming should do the trick.
Though if you really want to save Delane, I'd recommend aligning with Ulcro instead. She's a minor noble from a declining house, whose lands were just destroyed by rampaging orcs; even if you weren't about to conquer the country, she'd doubtless end up living little better than a peasant by the end of this. At Ulcro's side, she's the one really running the tribe, which will be richly rewarded as one of the earliest backers in the twin's rise to power - she'll restore the fortunes of her house past anything she could imagine, this way.
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Look. We don't support the pirating of the game. Please play the free version (which is entirely complete and just one month behind). But, like, how the fuck are we going to stop anyone from playing a pirated copy?
Take it down? That'll end well, lol.
You do what you can with the situation you're in and the best way to handle piracy if we can't really stop it is engaging.
The Last Sovereign, Sanguine Rose, and Kingdom of Deception our are closest competitors. Jessika's Curse and The Eternal Feast is SOC's sister games.
We don't have a date in mind, and if we tried to make one it wouldn't go well. Seeds of Chaos is just not a good "Wait until it's done" experience. Hell, even when we reach the end point of the game, odds are still decent we may continue adding to the event pools, adding side quests, so on.
I think the reason he's asking is that as of the current build, the only way to achieve an alliance with Duke Werden in Rastedel is if you have Delane (whose house are his bannermen) to vouch for you.
Oh, I know, that's why I gave him a useful answer first (assuming that it really was just a matter of skillchecks). But I've never been one to write a sentence when a paragraph will do instead.
...Indeed, I'm finding it rather difficult to keep this post down to three sentences when I only truly needed one, or to avoid bringing up how I was tempted to suggest that he raise his guilt so that he could see the suicide scene before fixing the issue.
Sure. Just to note I started a new game and the options weren't greyed out. However when I loaded a game on the first choice it was greyed out.
I do not want to be bitch, but you earing like 11 times more than you spend on game. In last year you added 80 cg, so lets take best artis and commision it for 100$ piece. It is 8k and you make that in month. So you are in quiet comfortable position anyway.
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List of things that the SoC Patreon pays for:
- CGs (10 per month or so)
- Variants of CGs (We do not get those for free)
- Charachter sprites (Often 1-2 per month)
- Charachter Sprite Variants
- User Interface Improvements (You will notice we don't use the standard Ren'PY UI)
- 20k+ more words of writing per month (You think I work for free?)
- Game Design (documents, numbers calculations, long design team discussions)
- Coding
- Marketing
- Patreon/Taxes/Banking/Etc...
Arioch himself handles lots of programing and marketing. His personal take is nothing resembling even his workload.
You also fail to estimate the price for "The Best". The Kite, last I checked, charges commercial projects 350 dollars a day. Cheap artists are low quality, or worse, inconsistent. Some folks complain about MDN, but at bringing finished work on time he is in a tier of his own.
The writing side also costs more then average. Much of our writing/design team have relevant degrees. This is required because Seeds of Chaos is aimed, generally, at an audience more accustomed to a higher level of storytelling and game design.
Making games is not cheap. You can't ballpark the monthly expenses from counting CGs and comparing to the rate of some semi-pro artist on deviant art.
So lets multiple that number by 2, oh hell leds do it by 3! Still there is plenty left. And lets add, that writing dirty cheap. But that is issue with such project, there is no way to tell if someone is honest or not. I do not want to agitate you, it just envy speaking that in my opinion(reasoning) you work for 3 months and then lay down for rest of a year
BranTheBrokenDick
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So tell us prodigy what do you do for a living? Do you work? Is you money spent on what? Do you eat? Do you pay rent? Do you get things for free? Do you work for free? Why would the dev work for free? He uses his time building a game instead of doing something else, what is the problem for him to get paid?So lets multiple that number by 2, oh hell leds do it by 3! Still there is plenty left. And lets add, that writing dirty cheap. But that is issue with such project, there is no way to tell if someone is honest or not. I do not want to agitate you, it just envy speaking that in my opinion(reasoning) you work for 3 months and then lay down for rest of a year
PS: Did you spent any money on SoC ? If not this conversation shouldn't even exist...
It is not problem that he is getting paid, there is no issue here. I was just saying that he is well off.
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prodigy , you ever find a good artists that bills 100$ dollars a piece, meets deadlines and is consistent, you send him our way, okay?
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Your entire argument was based on your perceived understanding of our production costs. You can't "multiply by three" and get over it.So lets multiple that number by 2, oh hell leds do it by 3! Still there is plenty left. And lets add, that writing dirty cheap. But that is issue with such project, there is no way to tell if someone is honest or not. I do not want to agitate you, it just envy speaking that in my opinion(reasoning) you work for 3 months and then lay down for rest of a year
I am telling you that you do not understand how much money it costs to make a game, what elements of production are required, and where costs are raised and lowered.
SoC works on Razer thin margins. If you tallied total income vs total spent on the game over time, it's actually still in the red (though slowly making its way to the black).
And how do you know I'm not lying. Simple. We release quality sized releases every single month. Month in. Month out. Few H-games can match SoC in consistent high quality releases. This is because the boss runs a professional staff that costs money to hire while only keeping incredibly lean profits.
...You really think 21,00 a year would be fair compensation for this work? That's literally below the poverty threshold where I live, setting aside the fact that that doesn't even count the cut that Patreon takes of the money or the fact that more than one person works on the project, let alone any of the other expenses.I do not want to agitate you, it just envy speaking that in my opinion(reasoning) you work for 3 months and then lay down for rest of a year
I think your envy is unwarranted here, to put it politely.
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Then I was wrong. If you are saying that it is professional project. I made bad assumption and I have extrapolated from there. I woudn't guss that somone build up business on such risky endeavour. Let's be straight, patreon is a shithole, not secure income and they can change policy on go. Then you left without funding with bills to pay.
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Yes and no?
If something dumb happened with Patreon, would it be bad for us? Yes. For sure.
But, we can scale up or scale down production as nessacery. If we were making 1K on some other platform the game would still be in development.
If we somehow were making 20K a month, we'd only ramp up production more. The nice part about a game like Seeds of Chaos is that there really is few upper limits for what we could do if we had more funding. Every dollar really does improve the game.
So there's some uncertainty, but it's not as bad as you think. Production costs are modulated to income for the game.
If something dumb happened with Patreon, would it be bad for us? Yes. For sure.
But, we can scale up or scale down production as nessacery. If we were making 1K on some other platform the game would still be in development.
If we somehow were making 20K a month, we'd only ramp up production more. The nice part about a game like Seeds of Chaos is that there really is few upper limits for what we could do if we had more funding. Every dollar really does improve the game.
So there's some uncertainty, but it's not as bad as you think. Production costs are modulated to income for the game.