Ren'Py Seeds of Chaos [v0.4.10] [Vénus Noire]

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Anonikus

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A360 said:
How is him fucking others not the point. Your response to a post stating NTR can be turned off was there's no game if you do that "Yeah you can do that but then you dont have a game. MC is designed as a spineless cuck that will be dominated. Majority of the content is for that.". Your point was literally that turning NTR of means there's not a game because that's the majority of the content. Turning NTR on or off does not remove scenes with Rowan interacting with the twins it removes the NTR.

That aside he does act against them yeah. Of the top of my head he can fight Andras when Andras says his going to fuck Alexia (result dependent on stats) can turn Shaya and Clihona to his side and can undermine the twins with his actions during Rastedel (Werden and Patricia) and the Orciad (Tarish or Delane) Rowan can go against the twins and undermine them. They have his wife and he'd get squashed in a head to head confrontation. That's the hold they have he can't get Alexia off them without him or her been killed or go get help without her been killed, once the amulet went on he can't even attempt it. He is not Goku a power up isn't falling from the sky that'll let him suddenly smash them so he has to work against them in other ways. Rowan isn't in charge but he isn't submissive, coward or a cuck unless you make him so.

The most recent update the changes in the opening made him more aggressive towards them and fighting them doing well, that's not something a change a game intent on making the MC a cowardly sissified cuck does this late on.
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The seeming wilful density of the people you're replying to is starting to feel like thread derailment to me.

As has been said, one can avoid every single sexscene including the twins and Rowan being bossed around and threatened to do their bidding does not in any way constitute 'NTR'.

A360, one could also mention how Rowan can help Heleyna, how he tries turn one of the maids to spy on the twins (very unsuccessfully), random events around the castle where for example you can divert supplies to dangerous routes so they are lost (could perhaps do with some more direct reflection ingame), the many many random events on the travel map where we can be good people.
Rowan is only a spineless coward if played as such.

At some point it sounds essentially like complaining that this isn't a completely different game, goodhearted vanilla romance or something, which is more than a little disingenuous and whiny.
 
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Not_A_Horse said:
It seems highly questionable to use real-world development time to comment on plot progression, it hasn't been years in-game.

Furthermore, I think you're confusing stupidity with courage. Trying to challenge the Twins physically would be extremely stupid, even if he could take them he couldn't take all their minions. Also, they have his wife and thus there's even more on the line. Not to mention Rowan is not the kind of hero who does this, he's not a Hercules (or Guts) who can just scythe through people with no problem. He relies on cunning and guile, which is why when we get an opportunity to betray them it will involve that.

Ultimately if you want a power fantasy where the hero immediately kicks the asses of the people who wrong him Seeds of Chaos isn't the game for you. Which is quite good, what we have is far more unique than that kind of narrative.
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It's been 5 years, yo. That it's been 5 days in-game is a technicality. If that's how it worked then no arc would ever overstay its welcome, and Goku would still be screaming on Namek.

As for Rowan, i'm not really confusing anything. He's a unheroic wimp, both in terms of skills and will, by design. The story literally hinges on it, hence my joke about Guts. Rowan's been useless for too long for me to believe any revenge of his will feel satisfying, especially since i assume the writers will have him bend over and eat shit for another few years yet.

EDIT: LMAO. 1 second, 1 faceplam :KEK::KEK::KEK::KEK::KEK: My man's out here waiting for the meanies :KEK::KEK::KEK::KEK::KEK::KEK::KEK:
 
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Because that is a really dumb take. Anyone who played the game so far knows this is not the truth.
Anonikus is right, this is disingenuous BS just for the sake of derailing the thread with baseless nonsense against the game.
 
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T51bwinterized

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Daken9 said:
Disingenuous BS would be saying i doubt you can even read the entirety of this post in 5 seconds :KEK:

But i get it, a stranger's mean words can hurt real bad, especially when they're on the internet and directed at a porn game. Accept my apologies, y'all can go back to peacefully exchanging likes and bovine dick picks. :)KEK:)
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I mean bro, we're all sitting on F95 with some of the few fleeting moments of our limited lives. We're all losers in that respect.
 
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rivon

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name002 said:
is there a changelog for 0.2.65?
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T51bwinterized said:
The update is out:

Release Notes
- First half of the introduction has been edited (with rewrites) to improve quality
- One new Alexia narrative event (high corruption - including one sex scene)
- Two new Draith NPC events (including one sex scene)
- Two new Cla-Min NPC events (including one sex scene)
- Three new Alexia Job events (including two sex scenes)
- One new Orc Tribe event
- Sixteen new CGs (with nine variants)
- Thirty- four Andras CGs have been reworked to better suit the game's aesthetic
- Numerous typos and wrong word usage instances have been corrected

Short release this time, becaue so much of our efforts went into the mechanics rework which is approaching launch. You can pick it up on Steam, or wait for it to come out on steam.
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Crusado

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SpoiledPrince said:
If I don't remember wrong, Rowan joins the Twins for Alexia's sake. I mean, you're able to name your reason for him to do it, but ultimately it always has to do with keeping her safe. If their bond breaks, or worse... if Rowan learns about his wife sharing her bed with one of her captors, what will prevent him from leaving the castle and its inhabitants on their own? The girl obviously isn't in dire need of a savior, his attachment to her will be broken or severely damaged, and taking off the necklace would probably just take a powerful enough mage.

If he still is a hero at heart, a redemption arc by defecting to the forces of Order would be the next logical step. He's got the experience, the motivation, the whole intel. If he's not, scorn would make him a fearsome rival for all the same reasons.
So what on Earth are the Twins playing at by seducing Alexia? There are thousands of other women ready to be bedded who would not endanger their campaign. One-upping Rowan and showing him his place could be easily done by taking one (or all) of his secondary LIs from under his nose and making him watch but weakening his bond to his wife is weakening their leverage over him.
Not a clever move at all...
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Maybe they are going to use the Alexia pregnancy arc to keep Rowan in line? If Rowan and Alexia's relationship breaks but he still ended up having a baby with her the twins could use that against Rowan.
 
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Shadowen

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Rein said:
You can spawn either on a explored portal or on recall hex.

The current UI only supports three portals, but I was looking making a better portal UI, which might also result in increasing the number of them.
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I wish I knew how, as I only have 2 option - spawn from the portal, or continue from where I last was. So if there is another option then I wish I knew. And TBH, I'm blind as a bat as I only now just realized I could spawn from last position. lol Would have made things so much better had I realized it from the start. lol

Should be available from the start if you have the buildings.
You pick job on the lower right corner of the castle UI. You can't miss it.
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Blind-as-a-bat strikes again. I see nothing in the lower right corner of the castle UI. Nothing on the main overview, nothing on the Tavern screen, Rowans Room screen, etc.

I'll attach images showing what I see in the main Castle screen and Tavern screen. If you need/want to see anything else, let me know.

Edit - I had edited the gallery file to unlock gallery. I reverted back to original just in case, no changes to what I see on the screens. So gallery unlocking doesn't appear to be the culprit.

Edit #2 - Week 22, I just did the whole "new goal" event, afterwards Alexia said I could put her to work. So seems event/time based. However I'm still not seeing any option/way to put her to work yet. No new buttons/links on any screen I can see.

Edit #3 - Week 23. I now see the "Choose a Job" section. And yes, it is extremely obvious and unmissable. LOL Just have to wait a week after Alexia tells you she wants to work to get it.

dhuemnptai said:
On another topic, did anyone found this CG in the game?
*snip image*
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Looking through the Image Gallery, that seems to be part of an event where Alexia whips Rowan, with X’Zaratl? watching. Seems to be an event tied to a way of decreasing Rowan's guilt I think. I could be wrong though

Edit for some questions:

- Will we ever get to buy equipment for Rowan? I'm getting gold each week, but have nothing to spend it on. Or is this supposed to be an option with Cla-Min that I'm just not seeing? As so far I've only gotten a few gear pieces from random events on the map.
 
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Pooperskoot

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T51bwinterized said:
First off. Thanks for your support man, we really appreciate it. Second, I want to applaud a thoughtful and specific critiques that kept things spirited and respectful. I read them over and on some areas you've highlighted some of the stuff we've discussed improving internally.

Regarding the mechanics rework, my request to you is to simply keep an open mind and try it out when you get the chance, ideally. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised by some improvements, even if you might not think it solves everything. I look forward to hearing what you think afterwards.
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I appreciate the reply! I will absolutely be checking the game out once the rework is done. The most I've skipped the last few years has been 3 updates, I believe. Despite my critiques and seemingly endless cons, SoC is definitely in my top 10 games.
 
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lv3175

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dhuemnptai said:
On another topic, did anyone found this CG in the game?

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haven't played the update yet, but considering the look on her face (and that whip) I wonder if this is part of the high corruption path for Alexia. Course it might be part of the whole s&m storyline with rowan, alexia, and the 4 armed succubus (not even trying to spell that name.)
 
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Snugglepuff said:
That's just it though, it doesn't actually focus on NTR unless you play it that way. Posts like yours do not help either.
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The Devs/writers themselves have said otherwise, are you saying you know more about the game than the people who make it?
 
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