Ren'Py Seeds of Chaos [v0.4.10] [Vénus Noire]

[Jynx_lucky_j]

Hello there, sorry for my dumb question, I researched about this topic, but I need someone who can ensure me:
If I turn off NTR, am I still able to share my wife with other male characters? I read this info in a review, can anybody confirm it? Thank you in advance!

There is a futa Sucubus and a Minotaur that you can still have threesomes with, even with NTR turned off. However, however they easy to avoid if you want. Honestly, NTR is so telegraphed and easy to avoid in this game I question why they even have an option to turn it off at all. Pretty much every potential NTR encounter goes something like:

Potential NTRer: "Hello Alexia, would you like to have sex with me."
Option 1: "Yes, I would like to have sex with you!"
Option 2: "No I don't want to have sex with you, I'm married and I'm offended that you would ask!"

People who complain about encountering NTR are either skipping though without paying attention to the dialog/options, or they clicked on it on purpose and and got their feeling hurt after the post-nut clarity set in. Every sex encounter is optional, and penalties for turning down anyone's advances are either non-existent or very minor. Some characters are pushier or more aggressive than others, but they are mostly just talk and there is always a very clear way to opt-out. Many scenes even have multiple opt-out point in case you decide you don't like where it is going.

 

[MoralKnight]

People who complain about encountering NTR

First of all, thank you for your fast reply! Second, calm down, I like NTR content, I'm just curious about swinging/sharing aspect of this game, because I read this in a review in another thread:
" The MC can share her with Greyhide, a big, muscly, but good-hearted and kind minotaur, or with Andras, the evil twin monster, if you want a more corrupted path. "

1.How true is this? You only mentioned the minotaur, and a threesome with him. Can't you just watch that he fuck the wife? Or if this must be a threesome, it must be gay thing with the minotaur? Because I am not into gay porn.
2. I played this game a very long time and just a little, is there a way that MC letting his wife fuck with Andras, and not just behind him back? (so not cheating, more like sharing).

 

[Rein]

Andras is not interested in sharing Alexia. His path is strict NTR. Jezera... Mostly the same.

The other NPCs are more flexible.

 

[MoralKnight]

Andras is not interested in sharing Alexia. His path is strict NTR. Jezera... Mostly the same.

The other NPCs are more flexible.

Thank you very much! How many "other NPCS" we are talking about when it comes to wife sharing?

 

[RC-1138 Boss]

X’zaratl and Greyhide are into poly relationships.

 

[Jynx_lucky_j]

First of all, thank you for your fast reply! Second, calm down, I like NTR content,

Sorry if I came across that way it wasn't my intention to direct the section about NTR complaints at you directly. It was meant to be a more general complaint about the amount of misinformation out there regarding NTR in the game.

" The MC can share her with Greyhide, a big, muscly, but good-hearted and kind minotaur, or with Andras, the evil twin monster, if you want a more corrupted path. "

1.How true is this? You only mentioned the minotaur, and a threesome with him. Can't you just watch that he fuck the wife? Or if this must be a threesome, it must be gay thing with the minotaur? Because I am not into gay porn.
2. I played this game a very long time and just a little, is there a way that MC letting his wife fuck with Andras, and not just behind him back? (so not cheating, more like sharing).

The vast majority of sex scenes happen privately. I believe the only ones that you can actively watch someone with Alexia is with is one scene Greyhide (you don't need to do anything gay with Greyhide, as long as at least one of you have fooled around with him you'll be able to go down this path) and maybe a little with X’Zaratl (the futa sucubus) before the threesome starts. After the scene with Greyhide you have the option to give your blessing for them to continue seeing each other.

You also have the option of giving your wife permission to sleep with Andras near the beginning if you also had sex with a twin after agreeing to serve them, but it is less "go forth with my blessing" and more "we're their prisoners and it is probably best not to upset them." There is not currently a scene where Andras has sex in front of Rowan. So it is more a case of Rowan knows they will have sex, but not when and where. However, there is a potential scene where you can turn Alexia in for helping Helayna escape and then allow Andras to pick her punishment. And it is pretty apparent that Andras will choose something sexual as a punishment. Which results in

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but Rowan still isn't actually present for any of it.

There are a number of scenes for Alexia of varying degrees of NTRness that happen in at least semi-secret. Off the top of my head there is: Jezera (she has her own Alexia NTR path that includes a couple of random guys along it as well), a maid, a fish-man, and some goblins. At very least at no point does Alexia explicitly tell Rowan about any of these events.

However, with NTR turned off i'm pretty sure your only options are the threesomes with Greyhide, X’Zaratl, oh and Liurial (your elf secretary) now that I think about it. Pretty much turning off NTR removes the options for Alexia to have sex with out your presence. Personally I recommend leaving NTR turned on because it gives you the most options for how you want to procced and as I mentioned before it isn't hard to avoid the scenes you don't want.

 

[monk_56]

Thank you very much! How many "other NPCS" we are talking about when it comes to wife sharing?

Specifically appropriate to your tastes based on what you said. (Non-gay sharing where you and your wife both consenting)

The bulk of the art assets of Alexia with other men are NTR mostly on Andras' path but a few on Jez as well.
Probably around 150 assets- with maybe 10-20 on in Jez.

She can cheat with a bunch of random monster, random tavern patrons, and random characters while she is working as a maid.- the husband can consent to none of that. Maybe 25-50 assets.

The wife probably has around 125-ish art assets with her husband specifically.

Now if we are taking about sharing about concentual sharing there are 3 characters. Greyhide. Liurial, and X'zaratl.

I'd say only a few % points of the games content falls in this category.

Greyhide art assets are probably around 30 items. You can choose 1 of 4 routes. I don't know the specific breakdown but I'd guess:

40% Greyhide x Alexia
40% Bi-sexual
20 % Gay
0% Platonic

All of the Greyhide routes require drug-induced cheating before you get to the concentual sexual content. The bi route and gay route both obviously require your MC to enjoy some dick. So you get maybe 10-15 art assets of wife with dude- where the dude has the MC blessing from that- your character isn't watching per say- he just knows its happening and gives it a stamp of approval.

Depending on how you view Futa I think the X'zaratl pathing holds the most non-gay sharing content. If you view futa as gay or don't want your wife to have a dick you maybe miss 25% of the route- but the rest of the route is decidedly non-gay sharing. And the entire route is the ONLY sharing you can do in the game that doesn't start with cheating. Maybe 20 assets: 15 more if you don't mind taking your wife's or X'zaratl's (aka don't think futa cock is gay).

Lastly you have the liurial 3 some and later a follow up to that in the form of one Alexia x Liurial job scene on the maid path. This path starts as cheating done by Rowan- after navigating an event path you can trigger a FxMxF 3 some. Maybe 10-15 total art assets post concent.

 

[gamingdevil800]

Andras is not interested in sharing Alexia. His path is strict NTR. Jezera... Mostly the same.

The other NPCs are more flexible.

In that case Andras is going down

 

[mehGusta]

Andras is not interested in sharing Alexia. His path is strict NTR. Jezera... Mostly the same.

The other NPCs are more flexible.

really? Andras wants to own Alexia, so that's a yes, but Jezera just wants to use Alexia. i mean she instructs her to ease out information of that one guy, suggesting using her body, so i think she doesn't mind sharing her, as long as Jezera gets what she wants in the end.

X’zaratl and Greyhide are into poly relationships.

there is also Liurial

 

[monk_56]

really? Andras wants to own Alexia, so that's a yes, but Jezera just wants to use Alexia. i mean she instructs her to ease out information of that one guy, suggesting using her body, so i think she doesn't mind sharing her, as long as Jezera gets what she wants in the end.

there is also Liurial

Jezzie most definitely doesn't like sharing either. She will use her toys to further her goals- but her attitude is 100% her things are her things and hers alone. She wants to turn Alexia into shaya 2.0. A whore; but HER whore specifically- that only whores herself out to please the whims / goals of her master. I guess you could interpret that as sharing- but there is no equality in the power dynamic at all.

Liurial content is such a tease. It gives you a thin hope of concenting poly MxFxF content with Alexia and Rowan. But it is such a small part of the game.

 

[RC-1138 Boss]

really? Andras wants to own Alexia, so that's a yes, but Jezera just wants to use Alexia. i mean she instructs her to ease out information of that one guy, suggesting using her body, so i think she doesn't mind sharing her, as long as Jezera gets what she wants in the end.

I get the feeling Jezera is grooming Alexia to be her spy on that route. So in a sense she is really not interested in sharing her spy and their secrets.

 

[Fleep]

Andras is not interested in sharing Alexia. His path is strict NTR. Jezera... Mostly the same.

The other NPCs are more flexible.

And here I was hoping for a Jezara path where she makes Rowan and Alexia service her simultaniously.

 

[Jynx_lucky_j]

And here I was hoping for a Jezara path where she makes Rowan and Alexia service her simultaniously.

I image that one of the later stages of both NTR routes will be to make Rowan aware of the infidelity once they are suitably certain of their control over her, likely with options to watch or to service as well. After all they both take a perverse delight it toying with Rowan. Of course, I don't think they will do it until they reach a point where the don't think they necessarily need Rowan anymore.

 

[mehGusta]

Jezzie most definitely doesn't like sharing either. She will use her toys to further her goals- but her attitude is 100% her things are her things and hers alone. She wants to turn Alexia into shaya 2.0. A whore; but HER whore specifically- that only whores herself out to please the whims / goals of her master. I guess you could interpret that as sharing- but there is no equality in the power dynamic at all.

Liurial content is such a tease. It gives you a thin hope of concenting poly MxFxF content with Alexia and Rowan. But it is such a small part of the game.

I get the feeling Jezera is grooming Alexia to be her spy on that route. So in a sense she is really not interested in sharing her spy and their secrets.

i thought more of it like: Jezera lets her new toy Alexia keep fucking Rowan to keep him loyal. or as Fleep said, having both as her pets.
if you're talking about classical sharing, where both Rowan and Alexia have to agree on having Jezera joining them, then of course not. but i doubt most other NPCs are more lenient in that regard.
though the question was if Jezera was interested in sharing and she has already shown that she willing to share her toys, if she sees fit. that's not on an equal footing mind you, but still sharing.
Andras is just straight up greedy and wants everything for himself alone.

 

[BigStuffedTiger]

I get the sense that Jez wants to steal Alexia's primary loyalty away from Rowan and then it naturally follows that she'll have Alexia use her new skills to control and/or spy on him. As long as Rowan continues to do what Jez wants (and remains vital) she'll probably allow him to maintain the illusion that Alexia is still his, unless he's also Jez's pet in which case it may not matter. If he ever tries to betray Jez than they'll pull the rug out from under him and he'll be betrayed by Alexia in turn.

 

[Jynx_lucky_j]

It is also worth remembering that the twins didn't target Rowan just because he would be useful to their plans, but also for revenge. I imagine that they would like to capture or kill all of the heroes. Rowan was just the most vulnerable and the only one they could reach with their limited power at the time. In fact I fully expect the twins will be directly targeting the other heroes in future chapters.

Anyways, my point is: this is why they are always twisting the knife in Rowan, forcing him to watch their cruelty or forcing him to choose between to two painful choices. They are casually cruel to everyone, but for Rowan they go out of their way. The point is to make him suffer. The question then is what is the end point of their revenge. For Andras I imagine once he's had all the fun he can have he would just as soon kill Rowan. Jezera on the other hand would probably rather break him and keep him as a pet, though I could see even her killing him in frustration if he refuses to break for too long.

The main thing that keeps their revenge against him in check is his usefulness to them. His usefulness even lets him push back to a small degree. However if they manage to capture other heroes, and manage to recruit other followers capable of managing the castle and troops, then Rowan's usefulness will wane, and will allow them to ramp up their cruelty towards him.

 

[Cricco]

Greyhide route is great but I would much prefer more content with Cliohna. In the current version Greyhide already has 27 CGs (without counting the variants!), while Cliohna... only 3 standard CGs and 1 animated CG. New version that comes out at the end of this month will add 2 more CGs to Greyhide route. The difference in amount of content with Greyhide and with Cliohna is astonishing and honestly quite sad if you are a Cliohna fan...

That's because Alexia primarily exists to feed the NTR crowd. It's been years and she still can't go back to Rowan's room, let alone having more than one scene each with the knight lady or the elf. My dudes probably gonna manage rewriting cowman's route a couple more times before any of that is considered.

 

[errte13]

That's because Alexia primarily exists to feed the NTR crowd

Because of the current situation, Alexia & Rowan aren't in position to be lovey dovey. They're prisoners and Rowan is busy most of the week to conquer the lands in the Twin's name. May change as the plot progress.

 

[Cricco]

Come on now. It's arc 1 and Alexia can pretty much go full slut already. Pace and narrative have nothing to do with the week-by-week events (which detracts hugely from the story, btw). Her content is mostly NTR/mmf because that's how it is.

 

[Dortan]

Come on now. It's arc 1 and Alexia can pretty much go full slut already. Pace and narrative have nothing to do with the week-by-week events (which detracts hugely from the story, btw). Her content is mostly NTR/mmf because that's how it is.

I mean that's really not that much different from Rowan and the amount of scenes he has with other characters