Ren'Py Seeds of Chaos [v0.4.08] [Vénus Noire]

[rivon]

Everyone on the thread

Me: castles misrepresented and underrepresented!!!

nerd

you cant stop the truth!
Now People Will see that tight arrow slits are superior to wide window holes!!

 

[Semantics]

Nit picking time #2
I wnna talk about castles.
Dead season, no Helayna until 2022, so castle complain time!
Lets take a look at first fortification we tasked to capture and Rowan have a chance to inspect as an "siege expert" to make sure it battle ready. Raeve Keep.
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The first thing our "expert" should have noted is absent of Moat. Why its important?
To understand that we need historical examples.

Spoiler: Ancient Egypt

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Spoiler: Japan

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Spoiler: Europe (England)

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Why would people separated by time and living in different sides of the world come up with the same idea?
Well it works, digging a ditch is simple and cost effective, much less expensive then building a stone wall!
If you take your time and money to build a wall then you WILL build a preliminary line of defense around it.
People attempting to lay siege will have to ether drain moat or build makeshift bridge and under heavy fire it is not an trivial task, more importantly it takes time buying more time for defenders.

Second castle overgrown.
The idea is to clear site of all forestation around Castle. there should be no natural cover for obvious reasons.
You basically provide anyone opportunity to sneak on you if you have trees or vegetation around.
Defenders, archers need a clear view to spot and shoot intruders.

Third Arrowslit
We see huge "windows" on top. Well what the problem with them?
Many i say. There were no windows but there were loops in the castle walls.

Spoiler: Lets look at real world example.

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You want to provide as much cover for archer as possible.
The interior walls behind an arrow loop are often cut away at an oblique angel so that the archer has a wide field of view and field of fire.
If you make huge windows like in Raeve keep not only archers inside castle have no real cover from returned fire.
They actually have to hang out from the window leaving themselves exposed if attackers reached the walls.
More over in this huge windows you can fit a catapult ball.
P.S. I hope this will be helpful avoiding basic mistakes and creating believable fortifications in the future.
After all we have 5 kingdom ahead of us with no doubt castles.

Castle nitpick didn't bring up lack of machicolations, 6/10.

 

[RC-1138 Boss]

Time for me to nitpick. Sentience is not some quality of self-awareness; sentience is merely the capability to sense or perceive one’s environment in some way or another. There are sentient plants.

The word practically everyone who uses “sentience” to mean is actually sapience. Easy to remember, actually, since it’s basically our species name. Well, assuming you aren’t a fantasy creature, anyway.

I mostly blame Star Trek and Transformers for confusing the public.

I like this Homo Sapiens Sapiens, they understand!

 

[lil_coomer]

Is the liurial stuff bugged right now? Can't seem to advance "fool around with Liurial" further than blowjob.

 

[Jynx_lucky_j]

Is the liurial stuff bugged right now? Can't seem to advance "fool around with Liurial" further than blowjob.

it's not bugged, but it is currently being reworked. Eventually you trigger a random castle scene in which she urges Rowan to engage in some BDSM play with her, which is an updated version of her dungeon scene (but it can take a while to spawn). After the scene you'll get another repeatable option with her. But you can expect more new and updated Liurial content soon in the coming monthly updates.

 

[acer213]

I'm getting a rollback error when it's time to leave the castle for the first time after being recruited. None of the choices I to make before that point seems to solve it. Is there a fix for that in the current version?

 

[acer213]

Spoiler: Scene

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To clarify, it's when leaving the castle after this scene that I have the error. I can't find a way to progress beyond it.

 

[Jynx_lucky_j]

To clarify, it's when leaving the castle after this scene that I have the error. I can't find a way to progress beyond it.

I don't think you meant to quote me there. But...
Personally I haven't encountered the error you describe, but you could try posting the error message on the forum here and see if anyone can figure out the problem for you. It might also be worth trying to DM Rein or T51bwinterized, a couple of the game's developers that frequent these forums.

 

[highviolet]

I have this error. Anyone got an idea?

[code]
I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
  File "game/events/ruler_events_4.rpy", line 47, in <module>
  File "game/core/avatar.rpy", line 224, in take_damage
IndexError: list index out of range

-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------

Full traceback:
  File "game/main_loop.rpyc", line 102, in script call
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  File "game/core/event_manager.rpyc", line 374, in script call
  File "game/events/ruler_events_4.rpyc", line 47, in script
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[acer213]

I don't think you meant to quote me there. But...
Personally I haven't encountered the error you describe, but you could try posting the error message on the forum here and see if anyone can figure out the problem for you. It might also be worth trying to DM Rein or T51bwinterized, a couple of the game's developers that frequent these forums.

Actually, I did mean to quote you to use the screenshot as an example of where I was having the issue.

It's after this screen I have the error:



I did find 1 sort of work around and that's skipping the prologue. Though I'd prefer not to have to skip it.

 

[Jynx_lucky_j]

I have this error. Anyone got an idea?

[code]
I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
  File "game/events/ruler_events_4.rpy", line 47, in <module>
  File "game/core/avatar.rpy", line 224, in take_damage
IndexError: list index out of range

-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------

Full traceback:
  File "game/main_loop.rpyc", line 102, in script call
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  File "game/core/event_manager.rpyc", line 374, in script call
  File "game/events/ruler_events_4.rpyc", line 47, in script
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Actually, I did mean to quote you to use the screenshot as an example of where I was having the issue.

It's after this screen I have the error:

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I did find 1 sort of work around and that's skipping the prologue. Though I'd prefer not to have to skip it.

It looks like both of your your error messages got cut off. If you click Copy BBCode it will copy all the text in a forum friendly format (btw Copy Markdown is for Discord), then you can paste it in your message. It should look more like this:

I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
  File "game/events/ruler_events.rpy", line 243, in <module>
  File "game/core/avatar.rpy", line 224, in take_damage
IndexError: list index out of range

-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------

Full traceback:
  File "game/main_loop.rpyc", line 102, in script call
    Q��X�{jJ�&K��@�N��C�{    �OF��+����ߏ�P���!�E߮Av�*��؏���D��XĹ>p�C��_.j;\=�U�����n/Ʈ��zД)U��*�.%�e�
  File "game/core/event_manager.rpyc", line 374, in script call
  File "game/events/ruler_events.rpyc", line 243, in script
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  File "C:\Users\GADX\seeds-of-chaos-0.3.02A-pc\renpy\ast.py", line 914, in execute
    renpy.python.py_exec_bytecode(self.code.bytecode, self.hide, store=self.store)
  File "C:\Users\GADX\seeds-of-chaos-0.3.02A-pc\renpy\python.py", line 2028, in py_exec_bytecode
    exec bytecode in globals, locals
  File "game/events/ruler_events.rpy", line 243, in <module>
  File "game/core/avatar.rpy", line 224, in take_damage
  File "/home/tom/ab/x64lucid-deps/install/lib/python2.7/random.py", line 275, in choice
  File "C:\Users\GADX\seeds-of-chaos-0.3.02A-pc\renpy\python.py", line 847, in __getitem__
    rv = list.__getitem__(self, index)
IndexError: list index out of range

Windows-8-6.2.9200
Ren'Py 7.3.5.606
Seeds of Chaos 0.3.02A
Sat Oct 16 09:53:04 2021

It also helps to give as much information as possible about what lead up to the error. You can click Rollback and the use the scroll wheel to go back and review the events that led upto the error.
To continue my example: I was in the andras_is_stressed event. I told him I was busy and then tried to stop him from visiting Alexia. In the fight I fail both combat checks. At the end of the scene I received the error.

Also, most events are largely self contained so you can usually press the ignore button and continue on with the game after you report the bug. However acer213, I think you may have a greater problem. I would recommend deleting the game folder and trying to download and installing a fresh copy of the game. The rest of this advice will apply to any other errors you encounter.

But do keep in mind that most of us are not programmers so if there is a bug in the code there isn't much we can do the help. While we do have a couple developers that check in on this forum, this is still a pirate site so you can't expect them to go out of their way to help you directly, but if they do decide to help then be sure to be grateful.

 

[Deleted member 40068]

Love the way the devs are handling the corruption/NTR route with Andras, looking forward to seeing future scenes!

 

[MysteriousBeingY]

I don't know if anyone else has tried the unloyal route where you try and undermine the Twins, but after what happens with Delane I really want to bring them both down to size so bad. Also that run I am staying faithful to Alexia(boring I know) and I am glad that it doesn't make Delane have sex with you at the end. Is there an actual scene for that and I avoided it by being faithful, or has the scene not been made yet?

 

[monk_56]

I don't know if anyone else has tried the unloyal route where you try and undermine the Twins, but after what happens with Delane I really want to bring them both down to size so bad. Also that run I am staying faithful to Alexia(boring I know) and I am glad that it doesn't make Delane have sex with you at the end. Is there an actual scene for that and I avoided it by being faithful, or has the scene not been made yet?

Its only boring because it has minimal narrative and only Maybe 10% of the games sexual content
Completely Faithful Rowan x Alexia is a really compelling arc- I like it a lot too.

Spoiler: Rescue and Sex Delane route

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[Jynx_lucky_j]

I don't know if anyone else has tried the unloyal route where you try and undermine the Twins, but after what happens with Delane I really want to bring them both down to size so bad. Also that run I am staying faithful to Alexia(boring I know) and I am glad that it doesn't make Delane have sex with you at the end. Is there an actual scene for that and I avoided it by being faithful, or has the scene not been made yet?

If you have sex with her after you free her (before visiting Rastael for the first time) then you can have a couple more sex scenes with her in the capital while while setting up the coup. Also if you back anyone besides Werden you can successfully convince her to flee the city getting her out before it goes down and she gets away safely.

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This is a probably a bit of a hot take, but I actually don't think Delane's fate when you back Werden is that bad all things considered.

Spoiler: Delane's Fate

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[MysteriousBeingY]

Its only boring because it has minimal narrative and only Maybe 10% of the games sexual content
Completely Faithful Rowan x Alexia is a really compelling arc- I like it a lot too.

Spoiler: Rescue and Sex Delane route

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If you have sex with her after you free her (before visiting Rastael for the first time) then you can have a couple more sex scenes with her in the capital while while setting up the coup. Also if you back anyone besides Werden you can successfully convince her to flee the city getting her out before it goes down and she gets away safely.

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This is a probably a bit of a hot take, but I actually don't think Delane's fate when you back Werden is that bad all things considered.

Spoiler: Delane's Fate

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To clearify my question and reply to the other

Spoiler: Rescue and Sex Delane route

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[Carefree247]

I don't know if anyone else has tried the unloyal route where you try and undermine the Twins, but after what happens with Delane I really want to bring them both down to size so bad. Also that run I am staying faithful to Alexia(boring I know) and I am glad that it doesn't make Delane have sex with you at the end. Is there an actual scene for that and I avoided it by being faithful, or has the scene not been made yet?

I'm pretty sure that's more than 86% of the player base.

Its only boring because it has minimal narrative and only Maybe 10% of the games sexual content
Completely Faithful Rowan x Alexia is a really compelling arc- I like it a lot too.

Spoiler: Rescue and Sex Delane route

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Not a fan of Faithful Rowan, as it doesn't add much depth for me narratively on my play through but to each their own.
I believe we've disscussed which is the better fate for Delane and inturn Rastedel and I always turn to saving Delane (gonna catch em all, except Jezera) and choosing Patricia as

Spoiler: reasons

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If you have sex with her after you free her (before visiting Rastael for the first time) then you can have a couple more sex scenes with her in the capital while while setting up the coup. Also if you back anyone besides Werden you can successfully convince her to flee the city getting her out before it goes down and she gets away safely.

----

This is a probably a bit of a hot take, but I actually don't think Delane's fate when you back Werden is that bad all things considered.

Spoiler: Delane's Fate

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I ask you when you to consider this, when you develop as a person some parts of you remain do they not ? and the bad fates for Delane is indication of 2 things,

1) Rowan has learnt nothing, for all his time with the twins he's still clinging to the old ways and ppl who would cause him much harm than good

2)Delane fate is an indication atleast for me on who rowan becomes as a person, as her myriad of fates tells us what Rowan becomes

a)Corrupting/capturing/using Delane for an of the 3 orcs = servant of the twins and has lost all his previous ideals and has nothing to hold on to

b) Saving her but failing to save her later in Rastedel = Heroic Rowan but one who learnt nothing

c)Saving her but succeeding to save her later in Rastedel = Heroic Rowan but one who learnt something

d)Saving while having feelings for her and failing to save her later in Rastedel = Heroic Rowan but one who learnt nothing

d)Saving while having feelings for her and succeeding to save her later in Rastedel = Heroic/Conquest hungry Rowan but one who learnt something

it boils down to 2 things, what path is your Rowan on and what is it you seek from Delane.

 

[Lolicon Kami]

Its only boring because it has minimal narrative and only Maybe 10% of the games sexual content
Completely Faithful Rowan x Alexia is a really compelling arc- I like it a lot too.

Is it possible to save Delane with high corruption on the Patricia route? Trying to figure out who to choose as the next leader of Rastdel...

 

[Semantics]

Is it possible to save Delane with high corruption on the Patricia route? Trying to figure out who to choose as the next leader of Rastdel...

Spoiler

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[Deleted member 2602227]

How do I get new scenes? I bought this game on steam years ago, at first it ended where we got to rastadel, but lately they have released update after update, and I still only completed rastadel, the only difference is I can move around after rastadel? Some Fae things and welcoming additions to alexia femdom but, other that that? Nothing? So is it still nothing more after rastadel? After one year or so, is my PC or ren'py bugged as fuck?
Edit: usually I would presume I am getting cheated but they are saying they have new scenes? So? Someone here or everyone has seen them? How do I see them?
Also new scenes and all are good but if I can't see them? What good are they?