Ren'Py Seeds of Chaos [v0.4.11a Patreon] [Vénus Noire]

[Peperoni]

Seems like infiltration is broken. On the world map I put infiltrate Raeve keep 6 weeks prior to the 22 weeks deadline and I have 560 treasury gold and I keep getting game over.

 

[Jynx_lucky_j]

Seems like infiltration is broken. On the world map I put infiltrate Raeve keep 6 weeks prior to the 22 weeks deadline and I have 560 treasury gold and I keep getting game over.

I tried to recreate this problem but everything works fine for me. You could try reaching out to one of the developers, but I would suggest trying to load up a previous save if you have one or try starting over if you don't. Your not very far in and if you skip the previously seen dialong it shouldn't take long to get back to were you were.

 

[Peperoni]

I tried to recreate this problem but everything works fine for me. You could try reaching out to one of the developers, but I would suggest trying to load up a previous save if you have one or try starting over if you don't. Your not very far in and if you skip the previously seen dialong it shouldn't take long to get back to were you were.

I started the game 2 times and on the second go it worked. I am pretty sure that there is a bug that prevents the infiltration from taking place. Thanks for trying to help

 

[SpoonyCup]

Is the female character here a damsel in distress or do she also do adventures?

 

[errte13]

Is the female character here a damsel in distress or do she also do adventures?

damsel at this point of the story, might change as plot progress (she can learn magic as she has high potential in it).

 

[Anonikus]

I ask you when you to consider this, when you develop as a person some parts of you remain do they not ? and the bad fates for Delane is indication of 2 things,

1) Rowan has learnt nothing, for all his time with the twins he's still clinging to the old ways and ppl who would cause him much harm than good

2)Delane fate is an indication atleast for me on who rowan becomes as a person, as her myriad of fates tells us what Rowan becomes

a)Corrupting/capturing/using Delane for an of the 3 orcs = servant of the twins and has lost all his previous ideals and has nothing to hold on to

b) Saving her but failing to save her later in Rastedel = Heroic Rowan but one who learnt nothing

c)Saving her but succeeding to save her later in Rastedel = Heroic Rowan but one who learnt something

d)Saving while having feelings for her and failing to save her later in Rastedel = Heroic Rowan but one who learnt nothing

d)Saving while having feelings for her and succeeding to save her later in Rastedel = Heroic/Conquest hungry Rowan but one who learnt something

it boils down to 2 things, what path is your Rowan on and what is it you seek from Delane.

The first time I got to the orc camp 'act' I tried rescuing Delane but she took an arrow and died in the cave.
I found it really emotional and sombre as a moment that could be played as either steeling Rowans conviction, he would not fail anyone else or the world like this, or breaking his noble spirit and sending him down a path of callousness and selfishness (or even down one where he shies no means to stop the twins).

It is one of the highlights of this game to me.

 

[Tuskerman]

So more kingdom managment? Or not?

 

[Crusado]

Do you think we will ever be able to save the knight girl/other people in the tentacle dungeon? Or was that just kind of a one off?

 

[Jynx_lucky_j]

So more kingdom managment? Or not?

Are you asking if the game is about kingdom management or if they have added more kingdom management recently? I would say despite the plot of the game, the actual kingdom management element is very light. You actually spend more time out side the castle exploring and reacting to encounters or doing quest. Though each round you will have a castle event that usually requires you to make a choice and/or pass a skill check.

Do you think we will ever be able to save the knight girl/other people in the tentacle dungeon? Or was that just kind of a one off?

I'm pretty certain that a one off. It was implied that the tentacle room was a temporary situation to make them pliant and gather information and after they got what they needed from them they would become generic slaves. Generally speaking, it is safe to assume that anyone that doesn't a have a talking portrait won't be showing up again (with the notable exception of portrait-less characters that are directly tied to an important character, e.g. Cla-Min's family).

 

[monk_56]

Do you think we will ever be able to save the knight girl/other people in the tentacle dungeon? Or was that just kind of a one off?

I too yearn for the day when we can steal or rescue all the evil demon tweens/orcs broken toys from them and help them recover- but it might be a ways off.

Really like to get Emma out of that orc camp for start. Think you're probably shit outta luck with random nameless 1 off characters though. Tortured knights, half-mino chick, Jezzies-sex slaves might never get a rescue.

Then again- who knows. Maybe they will get a one off rescue. We did see a random castel succubus get another minor event in the last build according to the release notes.

Design for jezzies blonde sex slave in the Rowan Dinner event was really attractive. Then again if you don't take advantage of her- Rowan doesn't even learn about her.

I think you have much higher chance of seeing a Netori arc with named minor characters associated with the Twins. Mary and w/e Andra's slut is named. If that does happen it won't be for a long while- and its not like either of those characters is currently disappointed with their lot in life.

Most prominent arc of stealing the interests of one of the twins broken slaves is Shaya atm- which is arguably on the fast track to being netori in the second game- so TBD.

 

[iongheorghe]

Man... I tried getting into the game multiple times but it just doesn't work for me.
The art is good and it has tons of content but i just can't get into the story.
Rowan and his wife getting kidnapped/blackmailed and tortured and then you're supposed to work for them? I always just refuse them and get the end game screen.
I like gritty stories but i can't fap to them

 

[monk_56]

Man... I tried getting into the game multiple times but it just doesn't work for me.
The art is good and it has tons of content but i just can't get into the story.
Rowan and his wife getting kidnapped/blackmailed and tortured and then you're supposed to work for them? I always just refuse them and get the end game screen.
I like gritty stories but i can't fap to them

You can turn them down sexually and not get an end game- but yeah you have to buy in to biding your time ect or you don't get to progress. The plot wouldn't really work at all if you just got away immediately. Maybe wait until the intro re-work is completed to give it another try?

The narrative of Rowan and Alexia together seems to be getting more attention over time, which is encouraging- I'd try it out again. That content is very fappable. ;-)

Playing from Alexia job pov is pretty annoying right now since she is a bit of a door-mat kink-dump and the sexual content is meh. Nor do the jobs make very much sense in terms of Rowan's end game / empowering Alexia (Library is the exception). But the game has a lot of potential and some truly great moments as well. A lot of the content is nitche- but there is a lot of other stuff too. The game is very robust.

 

[Jynx_lucky_j]

Man... I tried getting into the game multiple times but it just doesn't work for me.
The art is good and it has tons of content but i just can't get into the story.
Rowan and his wife getting kidnapped/blackmailed and tortured and then you're supposed to work for them? I always just refuse them and get the end game screen.
I like gritty stories but i can't fap to them

To be fair it is kind of the whole premise of the game. So if you can't bring yourself to accept the twins' deal even with the intention of undermining them and hopefully turning the tables at a later time, then this game may not be for you. Which is fine, not everything is for everyone.

That said, on my first playthrough I also got the game over for refusing to serve the twins. (Personally I'm not a fan of these types of game overs, if I have to make a certain choice in order to play the game then don't make it a choice. Clearly Rowan HAS to agree or there is no game, so how about instead you let me choose WHY Rowan agrees instead of WHETHER he agrees.) I found it best to identify less directly with Rowan, Rowan is a character that may make choices that I wouldn't agree with. Just like a character in a movie or book may make different choices that I would make, yet I can still enjoy them. Instead of trying to make Rowan be me, I think of it more as being an actor that plays the character of Rowan but the director lets you improve some of you lines. While I do make decisions about what Rowan says or does, I'm not making those decisions as myself, but as my understanding of the character of Rowan and within the limitations of the greater plot and script.

 

[Back]

Or y'know, just don't self-insert yourself into a game. Play for fun and make wild choices for whatever game you're playing, or make choices that would make sense for the characters in their world. Don't make those characters you per se. It's all supposed to be fun and games after all and not something to stress over and give you anxiety. Most of us get enough of that while facing the real world as is, right? Cheers and have fun, y'all!

 

[gamingdevil800]

Man... I tried getting into the game multiple times but it just doesn't work for me.
The art is good and it has tons of content but i just can't get into the story.
Rowan and his wife getting kidnapped/blackmailed and tortured and then you're supposed to work for them? I always just refuse them and get the end game screen.
I like gritty stories but i can't fap to them

 

[Oriandu]

We are currently relatively close to finished with act one of three. The twins are the main antagonists, so it stands to reason that the earliest we can really expect to begin successfully defeating them would be about midway through act three.

I would expect to see the seeds (heh) of their defeat start being planted in the second act. Not necessarily the obvious signs, but we should at least begin to have some idea of their downfall by the end of the second act or it'll all feel rushed.

 

[monk_56]

I would expect to see the seeds (heh) of their defeat start being planted in the second act. Not necessarily the obvious signs, but we should at least begin to have some idea of their downfall by the end of the second act or it'll all feel rushed.

I think you only need Jezera to keep the antagonism plot going: Andras could literally be killed whenever- he is just muscle.

He could die as early as the game 1 epilogue and it wouldn't make a plot difference at all.

If we are talking about siezing power from both twins. My guess would be game 2 prologue or game 3 start. The Devs have articulated there will be opportunity to have an overlord route with some duration on it. If that part of the plot came mid-way through game 3 or late game 3 you aren't really going to have that.

Or y'know, just don't self-insert yourself into a game. Play for fun and make wild choices for whatever game you're playing, or make choices that would make sense for the characters in their world. Don't make those characters you per se. It's all supposed to be fun and games after all and not something to stress over and give you anxiety. Most of us get enough of that while facing the real world as is, right? Cheers and have fun, y'all!

Easier said than done for some. I find myself self inserting both as Rowan and as Alexia and I cannot help it >_>. Think some people are just hard-wired to do it in games.

 

[iongheorghe]

Or y'know, just don't self-insert yourself into a game. Play for fun and make wild choices for whatever game you're playing, or make choices that would make sense for the characters in their world.

That's the thing. Rowan is set up to be even less willing to take the deal then i am.
I'm just a regular guy while he's one of the great heroes of his land

 

[Tuskerman]

Well Andras is the "brute type" of twins, but I don't think he is idiot. He can learn from Jesera and Rowan's actions, and just play stupid.
About Jesera - she can be wonderful statue, hehe

 

[Back]

Well, isn't this the real hero that will eventually take down the reign of Bloodmeen and the Twins? Did we forget (as much as the devs have buried it)?

Not saying that this is the hero, or even if it is one, especially as the game continued to develop, but it could be, yes no? Correct me if I'm wrong, but as I recall in discussions in this very thread, didn't the devs say that canon Rowan refused the Twins' offer and succumbed in Bloodmeen's dungeons? What we're playing in SoC to avoid the early bad end is the what if scenario if one of the greatest heroes of the realms went along with the Twins and joined Bloodmeen regardless if he wanted to rescue Alexia and others and to bring down Bloodmeen from within or goes full tilt either now or later as Bloodmeen's champion. Just sayin'. ^^ Enjoy the art! And happy gaming; cheers!