Ren'Py Seeds of Chaos [v0.4.08] [Vénus Noire]

[diebesgrab]

Draith is closer to a "bottom" then a sub, at least within current context.

The real question is: Whose bottom is he near? The public demands to know, Winter!

 

[T51bwinterized]

Kill besgrab

 

[mmissu]

My first post on this forum and I have got to say that the developers and writers of the game have done an amazing job.
This is the first time I willingly shelled out to buy a game on Steam.
Absolutely loved the Alexia X Andras arc and Rowan X Helayna arc.
Looking forward to the next update very eagerly.

 

[GideonLovacraft]

Found this game by some incredible art (of gobliness sucking on human cock), and whole game pure art indeed.

 

[Brazilian Engrish]

But as you said, obviously, you can be a good Dom while still being small- though a larger stronger body can help; or hurt apparently.

First Ian, now Rowan. Who will be your next victim, tall guy?

 

[monk_56]

First Ian, now Rowan. Who will be your next victim, tall guy?

Probably the next super generic brown haired small lad in a game that is otherwise pretty great. Also, hello!

I mean- the main protag being significantly smaller and less attractive than the majority of males who fuck his wife or other love interests is certainly good for NTR plot and vibe- but its pretty shit for the protagonists scenes being hot. Its a vibe- pretty disappointing vibe TBH.

SoC and ORS are kinda weird cases where I still generally like the games despite them being designed with heavy NTR undertones. They are both just written so well.

Rowan looks better than Ian- Ian is like..... almost drawn like a shota Rowan also has the advantage of being in a magic world so I can have some hope of him at some point maybe not looking like a bitch and being sexually powerful; such as becoming demonic, gaining a magical or supernatural ability or item, the transformation chamber ect. ect.- so he has ways in which he might narratively overcome his physical limitations and get some hotter/more powerful scenes. Even if it is an unlikely hope. Ian on the other hand, will always be tiny so he can only overcome being less attractive to his LI with romance, money, status, charisma, technique ect. #shrug.

Good writing helps too- Rowan was portrayed as a pathetic one pump chump in the 1st event with Hel and is written very weakly there. Also he looks pathetic in that art. Contrast that with the writing in the latest iteration of the Rowan x Liurial x Alexia scene. He was powerfully written in that- despite the art for it (in the 1st position making him look pathetic). He looked very strong in the second position of that scene.

I stopped funding the game at any rate- there are games which actually care about my kinks. I've given up on SoC a bit. Too bad though- game has so much potential in the overlord or resistance plots- but like....... its feels pretty obvious that the main threads in the games will remain NTR plots and submissive plots. Maybe I will become a supporter again later if they add more content I like, such as Cla-min or Liurial or if they stop making Rowan so intentially flacid. I have the game on Steam anyway- so I can enjoy the few parts I do like; but there is no point in hard funding a project that doesn't care about the sides of the story you like.

 

[RC-1138 Boss]

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Too bad though- game has so much potential in the overlord or resistance plots- but like....... its pretty obvious that the main Dev mostly cares about the NTR plots and submissive plots.
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Seriously this NTR nonsense again?


Also what the hell is this obssession with ~2m tall protagonists and this bizarre idea a story can't be good without one on it?

 

[monk_56]

Seriously this NTR nonsense again?
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Also what the hell is this obssession with ~2m tall protagonists and this bizarre idea a story can't be good without one on it?

Sweet lord you are dense. Its like you found your reading comprehension in the bargain bin at a dollar store.

I never said the story was bad. I never said I wanted a 2m protagonist. Like, if you wanna zing me with "gottcha" one liners- at least read what I wrote- don't just make up what you think my opinion is

Are there even games with 2m tall protagonists? The norm in porn games is for the protagonist to be short. I think I've only ever run into like 2 or 3 where the MC was legitimately tall. WVA, CoCII and TiTs. In WVA you play as a basketball star. In CoCII and TiTS you can be like 2 feet tall, 10 feet tall or any height you want within those parameters.

 

[RC-1138 Boss]

So someone else hickjacked your account to write this?

He is so fucking tiny and boring looking. With the exception of a hand full of scenes that portray him more positvely- the only times his scenes are consistently hot is when he is paired up with some miniature race like goblins or elves. Most of men in the game make him look like Pee-Wee fuckin' Herman. I don't see why he needs to be small in his hetero scenes with his wife- why can't he look good? It is to serve the cuckold plots? Fuck....leave that shit for him getting topped or fem-dom or whatever.

Its the main protagonist- but there is so little in the game that actually feels like "winning" unless you like losing, getting shit on, being degraded, being small and weak, and being a sub.

Will we ever get content that feels like an actual overlord path? Where he feels powerful? In control? Large? Virile? Dominant?

Or will he be this pedestrian, undersized, compromised, cucked bitch until the end of game 3? My wallet demands to know.

One doesn't really need much reading comprehension when all your posts in the last few pages are pretty much variations of the same thing: bad cuck shit this, bad cuck shit that, tiny Rowan this, tiny Rowan that.

You equal ntr plots with bad writing on your posts and fromthere you also started jumping to the already debunked idea that NTR routes are in the marjority of the plot on this game. Hence the Stark meme.

 

[fihesog318]

Thank God for the ignore user function

 

[Semantics]

It confuses me how people pretend like making the main character smaller in build, height, and asset size isn't a thing NTR properties intentionally do. I don't really care about it, both because the writing doesn't care either with the possible exception of the actual NTR content (Don't know if it does, don't care if it does) and because it makes sense Rowan isn't as tall or built as a minotaur, orc, or demon lord (Never mind the sometimes-inconsistent art as previously discussed.)

But it's absolutely a thing NTR content does, so when you see it in a game with avoidable NTR, it's hard not to connect certain dots and think it was a planned creative decision designed to probably help emasculation vibes for the NTR crowd.

(Granted, going the opposite direction with a character that's small, or fat, or etc, is also a thing NTR content does, so there's really very little winning here.)

So someone else hickjacked your account to write this?
One doesn't really need much reading comprehension when all your posts in the last few pages are pretty much variations of the same thing: bad cuck shit this, bad cuck shit that, tiny Rowan this, tiny Rowan that.

You equal ntr plots with bad writing on your posts and fromthere you also started jumping to the already debunked idea that NTR routes are in the marjority of the plot on this game. Hence the Stark meme.

He talked about 175cm and also brought up build. The difference between 175cm and 2m is nearly 10 inches, so pretending like "wanting taller than 175cm" = "wanting 2m" doesn't track. He also only brought up writing quality in one post where he praised the writing overall but took umbrage with a non NTR scene's writing portraying Rowan as "pathetic." (The scene in question specifically calls attention to how out of control of himself Rowan is and that he blows within a minute leaving Helayna completely unsatisfied, so he's not being hyperbolic here.) I also didn't see him mention anything about a majority of the plot being NTR routes. He brought up "10-15%" of the game being AndrasxAlexia while wishing for more deep RowanxGirl routes and earlier mentioned 40% of an upcoming rework to a particular route. Maybe I missed the point where he said that, though.

I realize NTR is always going to be a contentious subject, but it'd be nice if everybody just learned to reply to what people said, not what they imagined they said.

Sweet lord you are dense. Its like you found your reading comprehension in the bargain bin at a dollar store.

...Everybody refraining from personal insults would also be nice.

 

[monk_56]

...Everybody refraining from personal insults would also be nice.

You're right- I crossed a line there. I shouldn't let the frustration of people misrepresenting what I write and trying to slam dunk me with counter arguments cause me to be rude. I've said my piece on the subject matter of Rowan's physique- I'll move on.

The 40% is speculative- since Hel's new content seems to be split into her claimed vs unclaimed pathings.

Anyone want to speculate on the trajectory of the new Goblin plot? I'm thinking Red-wedding style intrigue and betrayal.

 

[HentaiGamerN00b]

You're right- I crossed a line there. I shouldn't let the frustration of people misrepresenting what I write and trying to slam dunk me with counter arguments cause me to be rude. I've said my piece on the subject matter of Rowan's physique- I'll move on.

The 40% is speculative- since Hel's new content seems to be split into her claimed vs unclaimed pathings.

Anyone want to speculate on the trajectory of the new Goblin plot?

I'm expecting the twins command Rowan to save them from the Goblin Slayer :v

 

[Oriandu]

EVeryone's arguing about whatever while I'm just sitting here freaking out about One Piece chapter 1044 spoilers while also patiently waiting for artwork to accompany Cla-Min's impregnation scenes.

 

[T51bwinterized]

You understand that I'm the lead writer, right? I approve or deny on most story beats, and either me or Rein checks events before they go in. Also when planning story arcs I'm normally in most of the discussions, giving directions, with Arioch himself giving final approval or denial.

So I gotta say, man. "The team doesn't care about Mdom" is a fucking weird thing to say when I'm THE Mdom guy. Of course, I care about making sure there's good M/f content with Rowan in a more dominant position. And Arioch cared about it too because he hired me originally to ensure we had good Mdom scenes.

So I genuinely have no idea what you're talking about when you say the devs don't care about the route. Hell, I literally am an Mdom. Anyone who knows me can confirm I never shut up about going to this kink event or having just bought that piece of fetish gear.

Take the goblins. I'm not going to go into sprcifics, but the entire thing is split down the middle, with actually slightly more Rowan dominant coded scene then Rowan bottom coded scenes (although we wanted to ensure Rowan bottom players got plenty too).

Like, bro. Bro. Broooooooooo.

 

[monk_56]

You understand that I'm the lead writer, right? I approve or deny on most story beats, and either me or Rein checks events before they go in. Also when planning story arcs I'm normally in most of the discussions, giving directions, with Arioch himself giving final approval or denial.

So I gotta say, man. "The team doesn't care about Mdom" is a fucking weird thing to say when I'm not only THE Mdom guy. Of course , I care about making sure there's good M/f content with Rowan in a more dominant position. And Arioch cared about it too because he hired me originally to ensure we had good Mdom scenes.

So I genuinely have no idea what you're talking about when you say the devs don't care about the route. Hell, I literally am an Mdom. Anyone who knows me can confirm I never shut up about going to this kink event or having just bought that piece of fetish gear.

Take the goblins. I'm not going to go into sprcifics, but the entire thing is split down the middle, with actually slightly more Rowan dominant coded scene then Rowan bottom coded scenes (although we wanted to ensure Rowan bottom players got plenty too).

Like, bro. Bro. Broooooooooo.

I mean- there is obviously a reason I like the routes you write best. When you get to go ham and write Maledom content for Rowan it is awesome. Liurial's content is so fucking awesome. You also make a good point about LA in relation to hiring you so I partially rescind my comment. But honestly, it still doesn't change my general perception of the game's overall vibe, intent, or trajectory.

I'll look forward to that male-dom goblin content in the steam release.

 

[Nubian king]

Alexia content should be a strict mandotory in every update.

 

[lonewulf75]

I recognize that I should probably do a search before posting the following, just to make sure it's not already available, but I already took the time to make this list, so I'm just gonna post. If it turns out it's already available, well, that's just some wasted time on my part. Not a big deal. XD

Cheats: This is a list of what I believe to be the most useful commands. There were others that I found, but they were a bit suspect as to whether they would "break" the game. At least with this list you can always undo what you've changed, but you should still keep a backup save just in case.
(Note: to enable "cheats" open the 00console.rpy file found inside of renpy/common/ and change the line config.console = False to True. While in the game hold shift+o to open the console.)

Gold:
1)Add/Remove gold from the treasury:

castle.treasury += numerical-value​

castle.treasury -= numerical-value​

2)Add/Remove gold from inventory:

avatar.gold += numerical-value​

avatar.gold -= numerical-value​

Character Cheats:
1)Add/Remove experience:

avatar.exp += numerical-value​

avatar.exp -= numerical-value​

2)Add/Remove skill points:

avatar.skill_points_available += numerical-value​

avatar.skill_points_available -= numerical-value​

3)Add/Remove skill levels(for X inside of the " " replace with full lower-case skill name):

avatar.skills["X"].level += numerical-value​

avatar.skills["X"].level -= numerical-value​

4)Add/Subtract your character's level(level only, no skills added):

avatar.lvl += numerical-value​

avatar.lvl -= numerical-value​

5)Add/Remove your character's corruption(max seems to be 100):

avatar.corruption += numerical-value​

avatar.corruption -= numerical-value​

6)Add/Remove your character's guilt(max seems to be 100):

avatar.guilt += numerical-value​

avatar.guilt -= numerical-value​

7)Add/Remove movement points during exploration:

avatar.mp += numerical-value​

avatar.mp -= numerical-value​

8)Heal your wounds(haven't checked, never wounded, should work):

avatar.heal_injuries​

Castle Cheats:
1)Add/Remove castle morale (maximum morale you can reach is 100):

castle.morale += numerical-value​

castle.morale -= numerical-value​

2)Add/Remove prisoners in the dungeon:

castle.buildings['dungeon'].prisoners += numerical-value​

castle.buildings['dungeon'].prisoners -= numerical-value​

ok i admit ive not gone through all over 100+ pages of this thread but the cheats you talk about and all ive seen spoken off so far seem all for the PC version of this wonderful way to spend our time but what about the android version for those of us on the go? lol are such options still a thing? ill try to come back on here more but if possible if you very smart people out there have the answer please hit me up at lonewulf75 at gmail ill look forward to hearing from you =) happy gaming everyone =)

 

[Semantics]

ok i admit ive not gone through all over 100+ pages of this thread but the cheats you talk about and all ive seen spoken off so far seem all for the PC version of this wonderful way to spend our time but what about the android version for those of us on the go? lol are such options still a thing? ill try to come back on here more but if possible if you very smart people out there have the answer please hit me up at lonewulf75 at gmail ill look forward to hearing from you =) happy gaming everyone =)

As far as I know the main method of unlocking the console, UnRen.bat, doesn't have any sort of Android version or equivalent. And you also can't just easily edit the script files to enable the console, because apk.

It might be possible to just change the files in the PC version as you normally would, then convert it to an apk yourself. Or change the PC version, then play that PC version on your Android device using JoiPlay. That said, I don't play Ren'py games on Android, so I can't comment on if either of those methods would work or how easy/difficult they'd be if you aren't used to those options. (And a brief check of Google suggests it might not be possible to bring up a keyboard screen in Ren'py in at least one of those instances, meaning you might also have to use a keyboard peripheral of some sort.)

 

[lonewulf75]

As far as I know the main method of unlocking the console, UnRen.bat, doesn't have any sort of Android version or equivalent. And you also can't just easily edit the script files to enable the console, because apk.

It might be possible to just change the files in the PC version as you normally would, then convert it to an apk yourself. Or change the PC version, then play that PC version on your Android device using JoiPlay. That said, I don't play Ren'py games on Android, so I can't comment on if either of those methods would work or how easy/difficult they'd be if you aren't used to those options. (And a brief check of Google suggests it might not be possible to bring up a keyboard screen in Ren'py in at least one of those instances, meaning you might also have to use a keyboard peripheral of some sort.)

i appreciate the fast replies ive been getting both on here and in PM..the reason i do ask about android is i do these AVN's more on my android than my pc...ive spent too many hours sitting at a PC through the years in my younger years pulling all-nighter's gaming and now that im older my back just cant do it for more than an hour or 2 at a time anymore. sucks getting old lol so for me its just easier to kick back and chill and have fun on my android. with the right one you can do Almost anything hehe