And honestly I find Alexia a really weird deuteragonist. I mean, she is really just there for the porn. Rowan has agency and his choices matter. Alexia's choices mostly decide if she will have or see sex.
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Agreed. Alexia can be used to threaten/control/reward/punish Rowan anywhere the Twins can reach her. She's in the castle and immediately available to any character who wants to fuck her (or vice-versa) because it's by far the most efficient way of putting her corruption onscreen. Otherwise, the story either has to do an enormously complicated dance around what Rowan is or isn't aware of, or reveal her corruption to him a lot earlier.
The former is how some Japanese netorare stories/games do it, of course, but it's rare in the West. As a rule, players want to see what's happening as it's happening.
first time I sent Alexia out to work, I started her with the Library. And unlike every other path, the Library clearly tells the player that Alexia has the potential to have agency (because she has power, enough to intrigue probably the most powerful person in the castle at least before Tharos shows up). So after that the fact that in every other route she is a victim or a voyeur is weird to me.
That's because Alexia is weak and doesn't seem to be crafty to scheme behind the scenes. Her circumstance in act 1 doesn't allow her to do much anything meaningfully. But she can do something that may be helpful later on (as in future acts), like learning magic with the sorceress.
You don't need to be strong to change things. Alexia is involved in her own minor storylines were she could affect outcomes by wit and courage alone.
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For a long time SoC did not have a dedicated Gay writer, so we tended to struggle a bit with that content. People are also more interested in F/M and F/F content, so it tends to get less attention when we check each release for planned sex scenes. We try to always have at least one each release, but it varies.
For the time being neither Tarish nor Batri will get additional content. As Tarish always survives, she is likely to receive more content in act 2 of the game (hopefully next year), and Batri might have some stuff in Act 2 too - though since he doesn't always survive the events of Orciad, and remains a side character, he will most certainly receive less attention than other Gay interests, like Draith, Andras and Greyhide.
I would actually like to do more Threesomes and group scenes (which includes double penetration) - but I would like to keep them as post-plotlines events. Like, I wanted to do a Cock worship scene with Greyhide that included Alexia, X'zaratl and (possibly) Rowan, but it's not something I have the luxury of writing while Blackholt and Jezera storylines remain incomplete.
And yes, writer preferences tend to taint the type of sex scenes that get put into the game. It's no surprise - if it rocks my boat, I can write it in a way that will rock your boat. Any sex scene that is outside my personal preference is likely to be of worse quality - so for me to write it, it usually has to be for a specific purpose. Like, I wrote gay scenes before - I wrote Alain sex scene, and I wrote Andras fucking Rowan in the dungeons - but I did it because it was necessary for the release, and it was difficult for me to do. (I straight up imagined Rowan to be a futanari named Rowna to get the ball rolling in the Alain scene)
So for us to write watersports, we'd likely either need to have a writer who is into it and can make it sexy, or feel that watersports is popular enough to include it in the plot - which I'm afraid is unlikely to happen - maybe as a one-off event, at best
As for fisting - I just don't get it.
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Alexia with the...goblins? orcs?...in the pub, Alexia with Rowan and X'zaratl, and I think also Helayna and Delene? I'd assume that anyone on a Greyhide/Rowan/Alexia route will eventually get one (poor girl's going to be limping for a week). I think Andras/Alexia is far more likely to include one with a dildo (real or magical), at least in the near term, but we'll see what the future holds.
Could I ask (I mean I have, here and on discord but I am sure you are all busy and if you cannot answer, totally understand) is the content added last update it for AndrasXRowan in Act I or will it get fleshed out like Jezera's with further events we can initiate in a Favor menu ? As for the Batri thing, doesn't have to be Batri. Could just be a random orc. Heck Andras could have some orc (or orcs) help him with Rowan at some point . . .
And will the dwarf dude get his own storyline like everyone else? I assume it is the lowest priority. Heck even knowing it would be gay content, I really would rather see you go forward with Blackholt and then wrapping up.
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I don't participate in AndrasXRowan storyline development. It will likely follow a more linear route - but I intend to use Andras favour to unlock additional bonuses for reworked Astarte, so it ain't getting lost.
It's very low priority. It would be nice for someone to clean it up, but like, we can live without it.
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It seems I have...I'm sure you'll find someone with small hands for you...
Played into your hand.
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yeah that's probably me she is a loyal wife in my playthroughActually, are there even actually people that play this without trying to get all the Alexia sex scenes?
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Well, that's close to the other super-easy way to make this happen. They talk, confess that they've done things, agree that their lives include constant assaults on their sexuality and their commitment, and decide to go ahead and expand their sexuality while remaining emotionally committed to each other. Again, this requires a little backfilling of alternative dialogue and some code changes that allow scenes that would've been exclusive, but it's far easier than creating (say) an entirely unique Andras/Alexia/Rowan path.
The thing is, the conflict's still there. Alexia can have sex with and then fall for Sil, or Greyhide, or Andras, or Jezera, or whoever (given different values of "fall for"), and now it's a struggle for her emotional commitment as well. Likewise for Rowan. The primary purpose of Alexia/Andras is obviously the sex, but the extradiagetic story is that an Alexia who Andras has turned into his slut is no longer someone on whom Rowan can rely. So, rather than just making it about the sex, make it about the effect of the sex. The moment when she admits to herself that she's no longer submitting to Andras for any reason other than he rocks her world, and then the struggle to reconcile that with her legitimate commitment to Rowan, is as powerful a test of their relationship as just having sex with one or the other.
Anyway, this is all fanfic and it's never gonna happen.
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In the future, it may play a major role if Alexia goes full Melkor Mode *i mean* Full NTR Corruption Path in Act I, think about this carefully, being the players so rewarded with all those sex scenes with nearly every creature alive in the Castle (because there's not necrophilia ;v ) by Alexia can have it's consequences when Rowan may be in need of her help or support on the next Acts, it doesn't mean that she in the future will still relying on Rowan but of her own to reach her selfish goals.
Regarding Rowan's agency, he have the "freedom" The Twins provide him, but failing them it's an instant Game Over, another thing is about the importance of his choices, think carefully, none of the ppl who works in Bloodmeen in charge of a particular area of significance have been chosen specifically by Rowan, nor less Rowan can (nor even tried to) organize them to work with more efficiency, but by The Twins and they give them agency enough to work as they wanted (it's not surprise that even if you have the resources you can only build just once at a time, the same can be said of the library with the abundance of investigators), and if by any means he doesn't reach the goal planned by The Twins is Rowan the only one who pay the consequences...
Something like that was revealed by @Rein when he reminds us that Rowan's decisions impact in the character and over other under his wing, the choices taken by Rowan only matters if are aligned of Twins desires, an example clear of that is Rastedel's Fate. Personally, Rowan in Act I is more close to John Dagget of TDKR believing having power or influence as much he gives on himself for the cause that's not of his own, Rastedel must serve as a lesson for the character that will impact seriously in how Rowan acts, think and hopes for anyone in Bloodmeen, specially for The Twins.
So in resume, i only expect that going an Alexia full corrupted makes of her a less cooperative character, making hard for Rowan to succeed or even competed with Alexia for Power over Bloodmeen.
Well, think in Alexia's circumstances... She's a peasant, and as many of the people of the Third State in a Feudalism Bullshit Society is probably she lacked of any formal education, if it wasn't of her kidnapping by The Twins and the curiosity of Chliona, she could have lived a peaceful life until an elder age and died without knowing nor even a single prove or suspicious of her affinity to magic, so, it's not weird, it's her unfortunate reality she had to live and she's like every other person... But her role may amplify in the future, it wasn't promised but there's a hype for what's called as "Magical Alexia".
Perhaps you didn't reach enough corruption into Alexia, she step in front of an orc for called her slut, she in a sense, make use of Andras to give that orc a lesson, and when the orc finally ask for forgiving, she can still manipulate the poor wounded orc to seek Andras again (knowing how Andras just nearly kill him and a second confront would be his death), that's just how manipulative and scheming behind the scenes she can be and will be in the future...
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Drowning Andras in piss when?So for us to write watersports, we'd likely either need to have a writer who is into it and can make it sexy, or feel that watersports is popular enough to include it in the plot - which I'm afraid is unlikely to happen - maybe as a one-off event, at best
It's a guaranteed one-off event that will be popular with many folks.
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Ok my friend, I have fixed it and am able to launch it now. I went into my C:\\ drive, then in my UserName folder, into App Data, into Roaming, and then in the RenPy folder I deleted my Seeds of Chaos folder. And now the game launched with no problem, so idk if you want to try that as well or not.
Will they add a voice acting soon? I mean they should use the method on ( Slow damage ) Specific scenes will use full voice and events can be just used such as grunts or voice expressions. Well my opinion is useless since I don't pay money to support them so who I am here to judge
I feel like you're asking for too much. Voice acting wouldn't really fit with the game and it's expensive.