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(and because of bad planning at the beginning)
Anyway the recent Patreon post clearly states what's the roadmap, so always complaining about the length and the time etc. is becoming a bit pointless.
Well, I don't frequent this thread, nor have I looked at their Patreon in years. I played the game several YEARS ago and am just surprised at the lack of main story progress. Bloating your game with multiple side stories and quests, reworks and rewriting to try and please everyone is why it's taking them so long. There comes a point in time where you either need to crap or get off the pot. They've already missed their deadline to finish ACT1 this year, so I'll take their 'roadmap' with a HUGE bucket of salt.
 

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Well, I don't frequent this thread, nor have I looked at their Patreon in years. I played the game several YEARS ago and am just surprised at the lack of main story progress. Bloating your game with multiple side stories and quests, reworks and rewriting to try and please everyone is why it's taking them so long. There comes a point in time where you either need to crap or get off the pot. They've already missed their deadline to finish ACT1 this year, so I'll take their 'roadmap' with a HUGE bucket of salt.
Genuinely I imagine trying to format and code that fucking civilization 6 hex tile piece of shit map must be half the reason this game takes so long. Having to link variables to specific points, potential overlaps, retriggered events due to errors...

And this is all in fucking Ren'py. I imagine making actual rpg elements in a visual novel python engine is like translating an uncontacted indonesian tribes language while they're trying to stab you. The stories haven't been overly complex so I doubt it's writers block.

Would anyone even be mad if say, the Andras NTR events were just scattered through linear plot rather than tied to a variable that triggers on choices in an RNG dice roll of various events? You could change the jobs to something you permanently select, which would then add variety to each run since the wife would be doing different things, rather than just working every job over a long period, with the characters confined to that job never to interact with the wider plot.
 

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Genuinely I imagine trying to format and code that fucking civilization 6 hex tile piece of shit map must be half the reason this game takes so long. Having to link variables to specific points, potential overlaps, retriggered events due to errors...

And this is all in fucking Ren'py. I imagine making actual rpg elements in a visual novel python engine is like translating an uncontacted indonesian tribes language while they're trying to stab you. The stories haven't been overly complex so I doubt it's writers block.

Would anyone even be mad if say, the Andras NTR events were just scattered through linear plot rather than tied to a variable that triggers on choices in an RNG dice roll of various events? You could change the jobs to something you permanently select, which would then add variety to each run since the wife would be doing different things, rather than just working every job over a long period, with the characters confined to that job never to interact with the wider plot.
How and where the Andras events would be scattered still hinges on the length of the overall story arc. SoC is a three act play, which means that Alexia a balloon titted slut whoring her way through a party along with Andras as the finale of her act one NTR storyline is a third of her fall into depravity. You could spread that across RNG event generation or across a planned out series of events and it would still feel way too far of a fall for the first act. Pacing is one of SoC's biggest problems, both in and out of development.
 
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Are the CGs/pictures yours, and if so, do you take commissions?
If not, any info on whom the artist is, and where they showcase their work?
I've actually been wondering the same thing. Do these images make it in to the game? You an independent artist just doing it for fun?

How and where the Andras events would be scattered still hinges on the length of the overall story arc. SoC is a three act play, which means that Alexia a balloon titted slut whoring her way through a party along with Andras as the finale of her act one NTR storyline is a third of her fall into depravity. You could spread that across RNG event generation or across a planned out series of events and it would still feel way too far of a fall for the first act. Pacing is one of SoC's biggest problems, both in and out of development.
Sometimes, I wonder if keeping this particular map travel system is good. I'd say to switch over to a simple text map travel, or an easy map travel image like the castle with situations happening inside that particular selection, but I'm excited to see what they decide to do for II
 
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Are the CGs/pictures yours, and if so, do you take commissions?
If not, any info on whom the artist is, and where they showcase their work?
The artist that makes the CGs is Sommelier, this is their twitter handle, @_S0my.
They're not taking commissions at the moment, you'll have to wait until May for that.

I've actually been wondering the same thing. Do these images make it in to the game? You an independent artist just doing it for fun?
These CGs do it make into the game, the devs commission Sommy to make them
 

Juicer97

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I remember playing this and being a bit bored. But that was because I turned off ntr mode. I hate non lesbian ntr. Is it possible to have lesbian only option?
 
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Gicoo

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I remember playing this and being a bit bored. But that was because I turned off ntr mode. I hate non lesbian ntr. Is it possible to have lesbian only option?
You mainly play as a dude, so he would ignore every sexual content. You also control his wife a bit ans she has some lesbian content. She could turn away from her husband and sucumb to females, so technicaly lesbian only is an option. But you are obviously stuck with the mandantory main quest with the husband.
 

Juicer97

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You mainly play as a dude, so he would ignore every sexual content. You also control his wife a bit ans she has some lesbian content. She could turn away from her husband and sucumb to females, so technicaly lesbian only is an option. But you are obviously stuck with the mandantory main quest with the husband.
I meant to evade non lesbian ntr? Do i need a guide to avoid male ntr to the wife?
 

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I meant to evade non lesbian ntr? Do i need a guide to avoid male ntr to the wife?
Since she is married, every partner who isn't her husband is at the very least cheating, so not far away from NTR.

Every sexual encounter is optional, so they can't get forced to do anything.
 
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Gildor72

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I meant to evade non lesbian ntr? Do i need a guide to avoid male ntr to the wife?
The main male NTR route is with Andras. And I found it was easy to avoid any scenes with him by simply turning down his advances. This did stop me from going down the Alexia x Jezera route
 

Juicer97

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The main male NTR route is with Andras. And I found it was easy to avoid any scenes with him by simply turning down his advances. This did stop me from going down the Alexia x Jezera route
So i cant have lesbian ntr without straight ntr?
 
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