FGM01

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I just can't decide what to do with Delane. Whether I should side with the female orc so she gives her to her soldiers, or try to help her escape, or pick her corruption path. Is any of these the most fun?

All paths have many variations, so if by "she becomes one of his women" you are talking about being the sexual dominant, then this has already started to be built at the end of this first game and will be better developed in the next ones, but if you are talking in the romantic sense, this will be very difficult to happen (maybe not impossible, but certainly unlikely).
Nah don't mean romance for her, just part of the harem overall.
 

Gicoo

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I just can't decide what to do with Delane. Whether I should side with the female orc so she gives her to her soldiers, or try to help her escape, or pick her corruption path. Is any of these the most fun?
The four choices roughly reflect how the story roughly goes into four directions:

- Rowan works with the twins and falls willingly into corruption to accumulate power on his own. In this case, convince Delane to position her as the orc queen to please Ulcros, an old familiar of Rowan who may be more in favor with him than with the twins.

- Rowan agrees with Andras and helps to establish his rule of might. Bartri is the most promising orc, simplistic and war hungry. Simply give him Delane to please him.

- Rowan agrees with Jezera to gain power through intrigue and deceit. Manipulate Delane into falling in Tarish trap so that she can lead the orcs.

- Rowan tries to sabotage the twins at all cost, always trying to remain human and be as good as possible. Obviously save Delane, that it weakens the relationships with the orcs is a bonus.
 

FGM01

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The four choices roughly reflect how the story roughly goes into four directions:

- Rowan works with the twins and falls willingly into corruption to accumulate power on his own. In this case, convince Delane to position her as the orc queen to please Ulcros, an old familiar of Rowan who may be more in favor with him than with the twins.

- Rowan agrees with Andras and helps to establish his rule of might. Bartri is the most promising orc, simplistic and war hungry. Simply give him Delane to please him.

- Rowan agrees with Jezera to gain power through intrigue and deceit. Manipulate Delane into falling in Tarish trap so that she can lead the orcs.

- Rowan tries to sabotage the twins at all cost, always trying to remain human and be as good as possible. Obviously save Delane, that it weakens the relationships with the orcs is a bonus.
If you pick the third, can you still corrupt Delane first or is there no point to it then?
 

EricKeldrev

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The game still looks good but i just prefer the original artstyle (or MDN/Acht's style). Not sure how i feel about the current style of the CGs but whatever
Honestly, I just hope they stop with the terrible “animations.” I much more prefer the stills where you can soak up as much of the detail as possible and use that as a base for imagining what the rest of the scene looks like.
 

EricKeldrev

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Also honestly: I’d love nothing more than to screw over Andras and just worship Jezera.

honestly if I could write my will Into the game, I’d love an ending where Jezera sees Andras as being too much of a liability and just takes him out of the picture, whether that be murder or imprisonment or whatever.

And I guess you could do the reverse of that where Andras does it to Jezera.
 

Gicoo

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If you pick the third, can you still corrupt Delane first or is there no point to it then?
She gets drugged and becomes the toy of the male orcs who were second in command so that Tarish can keep them in line.
That path isn't prettier than the Bartri path, just how Jezera isn't kinder than Andras. They are both evil, they just have entirely different mindsets on how to gain and keep power.
 

FGM01

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She gets drugged and becomes the toy of the male orcs who were second in command so that Tarish can keep them in line.
That path isn't prettier than the Bartri path, just how Jezera isn't kinder than Andras. They are both evil, they just have entirely different mindsets on how to gain and keep power.
What about if you corrupt her and then help her escape, does that lead to anything?
 

Gicoo

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What about if you corrupt her and then help her escape, does that lead to anything?
Lead to anything? It's not possible. Once she is broken, she is locked on a path. How could you let a corrupted person who is in a broken mind go through a long escape sequence?

Seems like you want to look at your cake and eat it as well.
 

nejfan

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Me too, i cant wait for this to happen, but for now they decided to make the servant route first in order to satisface the kinks that involve becoming submissive to the Twins.
>for now
That is kind of hilarious considering that's what they've been doing for the past 9 years. At this point I'm not even looking forward to any overlord route or w/e, I just want full on mexican cartel style executions on the twins. Anything less than that and I'm still disappointed.
 

Chris20

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>for now
That is kind of hilarious considering that's what they've been doing for the past 9 years. At this point I'm not even looking forward to any overlord route or w/e, I just want full on mexican cartel style executions on the twins. Anything less than that and I'm still disappointed.
Idk if it has to do with the many patreon supports or something that make them take the servant route as a priority, the complexity of each route that delay the completion of the game or simply because the author favour submission kinks and NTR.
If the creator is consistent with the plot, we should be able to kill them both and free Rowan not only from their servitute, but also from the stupid system that abandon him.
 

nejfan

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Idk if it has to do with the many patreon supports or something that make them take the servant route as a priority, the complexity of each route that delay the completion of the game or simply because the author favour submission kinks and NTR.
If the creator is consistent with the plot, we should be able to kill them both and free Rowan not only from their servitute, but also from the stupid system that abandon him.
Yeah, I'd say it's all of the above. They've invested 9 years into this, if the devs were into what you and I are into the game would have catered to us by now.

I mean, I used to be kinda hopeful like you 6 whole years ago. The game does look sick if you haven't tried it. Nowadays I just check the thread for laughs, I will most likely have gray hairs and erectile dysfunction by the time any interesting routes are finished and I was just out of my teens when I first tried the game 6-7 years ago.
 

Chris20

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Yeah, I'd say it's all of the above. They've invested 9 years into this, if the devs were into what you and I are into the game would have catered to us by now.
I mean, I used to be kinda hopeful like you 6 whole years ago. The game does look sick if you haven't tried it. Nowadays I just check the thread for laughs, I will most likely have gray hairs and erectile dysfunction by the time any interesting routes are finished and I was just out of my teens when I first tried the game 6-7 years ago.
This game is one the best dark power fantasy out there, along with The Last Sovereign, Superhuman and Ravager; it could be epic if affter all that time where Rowan have to bide his time he actually manage to stop being a slave, i guess that for those that waited for so long, we will be as thrilled as Rowan with this.
But for now, i have other games and things to do, so meh, i am good for now.
 

FGM01

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So they're only focusing on developing the servant route these days? Not really interested in that one, unless you could just pick Jezera while getting her to turn against Andras. Rowan needs some revenge at least.
 
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So they're only focusing on developing the servant route these days?
No. For a long time, the only option you could pick for the battle of Astarte was the servant route because the writers never implemented the other two. That carried over to the siege of Rastedel (the actual battle and aftermath, not which ruler Rowan decided to go with) which played out like you'd picked the servant route as well (the city ends up sacked against Rowan's wishes). There were other minor choices you could make for overlord or hero if you wanted during the orc camp and elsewhere, but the servant route was the only critical path available. They're currently working on updating Astarte and part of that is finally implementing the other two hero/overlord options. After that they'll do another pass on Rastedel to reflect those options as well.

The point of the servant route events seem to be forcing a Rowan that is enthusiastically supporting the twins to reckon with what that actually means - Astarte turns into a slaughterhouse and Rastedel endures an orgy of sexual violence. The overlord route could flip the situation - say the twins order the city sacked but Rowan countermands the order and the army obeys him instead - which would force the twins to realize that Rowan has designs of his own and that maybe making him the linchpin of their plans was a mistake. I have no idea what the hero route would do though. That one always seems like it has to contrive a reason to keep Rowan alive after he sabotages things.
 

vt57

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either dev burn out then rust game with the abrupt ending or just outrage abandon and move one, the last time i played the game end with sack of the capitol.
 
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