Unity - Self-defense Dojo Secret NTR Lesson [v1.9.10 + DLC] [WAKUWAKU]

  1. 2.00 star(s)

    dungeon_seige

    Reviewing: Self-Defense Dojo Secret NTR Lesson
    Version: v1.9

    Overall: 2/5

    To summarize, this is a very grindy and time-consuming game with a very disappointing payoff.

    Grab a save file instead of playing this.

    I'm not going to give a comment on other aspects of the game. The gameplay of both progression and hentai is already too overwhelming to the point that other things wouldn't matter.

    ---DETAILS---

    Gameplay (Progression Grind): 1/5

    Progressing in this game is massively disappointing. It takes way too much time to literally do anything.
    • Navigating the dojo takes 2 seconds each time you move to another area.
    • Navigating outside the dojo requires you to watch your icon move from one place to another, which takes 2 seconds on average.
    • Skipping 1 hour of time (by clicking the lower right "pass time" button) takes 2 seconds.
    • Sleeping/Waking up takes 4 seconds.
    • Training the girls requires you to watch an 8 second intro of nothingness before it requires user engagement.
    • Training with the master provides minimal gains for the amount of time spent.
    • Text skipping is slow. I estimate that it moves at 4 dialogues per second when you hold space.
    • Lust accumulation requires you to finish each scene for minimal gains
    These tiny amount of seconds may look like I'm nitpicking, but here's the gameplay loop that a new player is required to do in a day to progress.
    1. MC wakes up (4s)
    2. MC navigates 2 areas to go to the training room (2s + 2s)
    3. MC wears the dojo uniform (2s)
    4. MC trains with the chosen girl (8s)
    5. Training minigame - overpower the girl with speedclicking and timing clicks.
    6. After the minigame, enter a scene where you have to fill the girl's lust meter.
    7. The scene ends and the girl gains +150 affection.
    The player is required to increase the girl's affection to be able to do more things. And in the first day, the first training wouldn't enough to level up her affection. Now consider this: The minigame and the h-scene are the ones where you are actively engaged to the game as a player. This is around 1 minute of gameplay. And in order to do that? You have to spend around 20 seconds staring at the screen doing nothing. That's 33% of the time wasted, and you have to do this repeatedly to progress.

    Let's not forget that we have to make money too. You won't be raising affection the whole time.
    • Work - 4s of cutscene
    • Excavation - at least a minute
    • Fishing - grind hell

    Considering the amount of grind needed to reach a higher level of affection (which in turn unlocks more h-scenes), we can say that for the entire game, you'd be spending more than 50% of the time doing nothing. If you can't imagine this, then think of it as having to watch a 1 minute ad everytime you turn the page of that hentai you're reading.

    And worst of all, the game stops running when it's not in focus. So you have to literally watch the game while nothing is happening.

    I will advise anyone that wants to play this game to please get a full save file, or get a boosted first-day save file with unlimited resources.
    Personally, even with a cheated save, I wouldn't recommend anyone to completely "play" this game. Just play it for a while, and once you get a feel for the characters, get an unlocked gallery save and view the scenes.

    Gameplay (Hentai): 2/5

    There's nothing much good to write about this one. If you've seen some of the famous NTR (Netori) games then you would find the gameplay here as standard. However, you would also find that it lacks engagement, variety, and flavour. Once you enter a scene, you are locked to it until you complete it. Only then would you be able to enter a different scene to spice things up. This means you can't change position after you've selected it.

    Also, the audio outside training scenes isn't synced.
    What audio? The PLAPPLAPPLAP audio.

    Plot: 2/5

    The characters are given a basic background. They're enough to give you a sense of how they might act in situations which can tickle your fantasy, but story-wise everything just feels so disconnected.

    Art: 3.5/5

    It's mostly pixel art. The girls are cute, the MC looks nice, the master looks like a master, and the big bad definitely looks like the big bad.
    While some of the scenes aren't to my taste, the game's overall art design still appeals to me, which is why I started playing this in the first place.

    Unfortunately, the scenes and cgs aren't varied enough for me.
  2. 5.00 star(s)

    datocroma

    I loved this game, the art and the gameplay were the highest points of the game.
    the grind starts kinda boring but in the game u start exploring and discovering things that can be really helpful (or u can just use cheat engine)

    It's a great game, give it a chance and see by yourself
  3. 5.00 star(s)

    HentaiLord

    I loved the gameplay, I was really invested in the situations, art and the game itself.
    Maybe it can be a little challenging to get good exp for skills, so you can search for some other ways to get the exp as modding.

    But even with that, is really a good game, I wish there could be more girls in the future, because I want to keep playing it.
  4. 5.00 star(s)

    Horn.zy

    Finnaly English version
    Nice translate English version, now i can play without worrying about Japanese language. Nice game, take around ±4-6 hours to complete (if not skip the chat dialogue). Kindda funny gameplay and can be played with one hand :)›) IYKWIM....
  5. 3.00 star(s)

    Voryen

    Only caveat is it's too grindy.
    Even with cheats, some events are just too RNG or locked due to time limits.

    Yes, you're time-limited not only for the entire game but also for cinema events.

    Good game nonetheless. Loved the art and concept. It just got stale.
    My tip is that you should cheat but cheat only to the point you get all the accomplishments for a girl and get all the items in the game. Don't progress too fast to save your own time trying to see all the scenes.

    P.S: 100% Completion isn't possible yet. Getting 100% completion of current content is RNG based and may take 8-14 hours.
  6. 4.00 star(s)

    kaipo

    pretty grindy, it has good mecanics but the dev repet too much without changing the minigames. The art is decent but a lot of the gallary lack dialog and reutilize previus arts. the translation is decent, i 100% it and didnt notice any big errors.
  7. 5.00 star(s)

    Valancia

    It's pretty straightforward of a game, I played it back when it was only japanese and used a page translator for the parts that was necessary to translate which worked out fine. Now that it's got an official translation that just makes it better.

    Gameplay-wise it's somewhere between a VN and rpg with skill upgrades/corruption attempts and money making being various types of minigames. My initial impression of the minigames was neutral to negative, but once you realize that almost everything gets easier as long as you keep bringing your skills up then the game presents very little challenge.


    Some people have said it's very grindy because most things cost a lot, and to a certain extent they are right - if you play it slowly it will take a lot of grinding. However, there are many ways to speed up progress if you just prioritize the right things. I would say that from start to finish, if you went for the correct items you could fairly easily finish the entire game in a few hours (obviously that would be skipping a lot of content and fast-forwarding through scenes).

    The animated scenes are a mixed bag, many of them are copy pasted with pretty much just a different hairstyle for the different characters, but there are unique scenes to each of the characters as well. The only thing I would want more of in this game is options or locations for corruption/sex events but as it stands right now, there are plenty to see.

    I would probably be rating this 4.5 out of 5 if I could, but I think the effort put into this game deserves the higher of the two rating choices because it's nice to see a developer actually follow through with their game, present a unique and good artstyle, and be active in the improvement of their game.
  8. 4.00 star(s)

    DrWeeb

    I spent the whole day playing 1.71... It was alright. Somewhat alright time waster. Overall, 4/5.

    Gameplay, 4/5: Wasted Like, 5 Hours...
    So... It's the sort of game like, "Summer Memories" or "Summer Life in the Countryside" but more so Memories, as you go around, and corrupt the two main heroines +an extra you fuck with.
    There's several mini games, the main one where you spam click, timing game for strength building, reaction time game for skill building, mining/drilling flash game, and fishing.
    Overall, they're all sort of mediocre, feeling like it is overextension and trying to add too many things to the game, but still, they all work fine and not too bad. However, the grind is pretty damn real. Lots of fishing to unlock good gear, then working at construction until you unlock the drill game, and just cycling through everything.

    The first couple hours were sort of like Animal Crossing of just doing chores and feeling alright, then it just got annoying to get anywhere...

    Visuals, 4/5: Cute Anime Style
    Somewhat standard Chinese-y Anime style. It's strange to say it like this but certain styles, you sort of get a feel it's not Japanese, and either Korean or Chinese. Anyways, it's still good. Characters are cute, guys aren't just blue blobs, etc.
    Environments are pretty detailed too. Your room fills up with more junk the more you buy, etc.

    My two gripes is that the cross section is only for specific positions, and that there's only a "transparent" and no "invisible" setting for the guy when fucking. C'est la vie, I guess.

    Audio, 4/5: Good as Well.
    Not much to say, there's music, moans, no guy grunting (at least, if there is, I somehow did not hear it), "meat slapping" noises, your necessities. They all sound fitting, no popping, no peaking. Also, they speak Japanese, so eat your heart out fellow weebs.

    However, there's one... Bug? Forgetting her name, but the missionary position with the blue haired athletic girl, when you/she cums, there's a huge delay after her finishing her ejaculation screams and the transition to text. IDK if it's just really quiet, but it's awkwardly long. I may remembering wrong, maybe it's a different position, but I know it's happened to me twice, with the blue haired girl. Could technically be under gameplay.

    TL : DR, 4/5: It's Alright.
    Everything as a whole is pretty good. Animations, sound, gameplay loop, but it all has some rough edges here and there that become more noticeable as you play on. Becoming the cuck lord and getting the fiancee/husband depressed, it does not really tell you how but you have to sell the recordings of you fucking the girls, for example, yet everything else was sort of there, where you need one message or pop up to instantly recognize what you have to do.
  9. 5.00 star(s)

    LordUlrich

    5 stars to a fantastic game. It played smoothly, was quick and easy to understand the minigames (though the lack of translation for the movie theater mini game was confusing at first). The graphics were great and most scenes had a seamless transition from scene to scene. Several endings being unlocked at the end offer multiple play throughs.

    There were a few spots were the game either bugged or failed to do something. Doing the construction minigame twice in one day made me miss the second payment until I replayed the mg (advice to make it a sum total from instead of separate payments). While drugging a character, an accidental miss click had me stuck on the vending machine menu, had to reload from the menu to remove it. One characters house scenes didn't add to the total, indicated 0t even after several visits. That same character has multiple laying down scenes that when finished make the game seem frozen due to a delay in dialogue. If not for the side flashing meter, it looks completely frozen.

    As the game is still under development I look forward to future events and updates.
  10. 2.00 star(s)

    DrakeWasHere2

    Review V1.7

    I know current version is 1.8 but it is MTL so I am just reviewing 1.7, assuming they are same as only changelog I see are bug fixes.

    With that aside.

    Rating this was rough. If I had to be honest it should be about 2.5 stars. But since you can't really give a partial star I had to figure out whether it was a 2 or 3.

    And honestly my impression on it so far is pretty 'meh.' It has some interesting mechanics.
    +The cinema shows and molesting there.
    +The wrestling molesting is actual nice.

    But then.. Sigh. Everything else is so money dependent and stat heavy that it isn't the least bit funny or enjoyable.
    -Only way to make money I found(well besides fishing, still don't understand that) is the construction job and the best way is drilling. But wait, you have to pay to repair a drill and only get a small percentage of money from drilling and then you have to buy upgraded drills and... Ok, let us stop there.
    -Next you have to spend money to train to level grind your stats to buy books which cost more money to unlock skills to use on girls in molesting...
    -Lets not even touch the high Black Market item costs that you have to be a godly driller to make or save editor.

    Yea, these are big negatives. That aside.
    -Sex animations are janky. I mean, there are some nice ones but some are just silly or same/repeats so it is just meh. Yea, some are different for characters but it doesn't wow me.

    Wow. I was starting out with a three in my rating at first when reviewing this, but now I think I will bring it down to a two.

    So to sum it up. Everything is grindy as fuck for no seeming reason. There are some janky animations and the only good animations I seen were the molest scenes when wrestling with a girl. You know. I will give this game a very benefit of the doubt. I am assuming/hoping there may be later versions or fixes to this, but as it stands..

    I advise just either
    A. Grabbing someone's save with max money like I did and ease the grind.
    B. Grab a full save and skip everything.
    C. Suffer and play the game legit like I did at first, before realizing the grind is real and going back to do either of the earlier options above.

    The choice is yours.
  11. 3.00 star(s)

    dhenfreitas

    I tried this game in Japanese, and had to use cheats, because it's way too grind
    The animations are nice, and it has an very fun concept, I just feel like it lacks more liberty or something...
    The videos and image footages from the game makes you think you can do a lot of things, and you "do it" everywhere you want with the girls, but as far I've played, it's quite limited...
    Dunno if you have to unlock something, but I have them at the full heart, all skills enable, tried a lot of different conversations with the partners, and I can only do the same usual animations at the bathroom, rooms and dojo
    Even the green haired girl, who's supposed to be an exhibitionist, she doesn't do it at all
    But I hope the game gets upgrades and we see more fun events...
  12. 5.00 star(s)

    popp123

    All around great game with good animation and content. Easy to unlock all the scenes by simply playing the game. Only wish is they add more characters but still worth the play. Cannot wait till its completed.
  13. 4.00 star(s)

    R94

    I Love the 2D art style. The concept of Hentai dojo trainer corrupting his student is fun. but its not perfect, the sex scene were ok, kinda like in NTR Legend-ish style, but its a bit repetitive. The minigame was fine, super grindy, its fun at first time but you have to repeat it over and over again.
    The scene also quite randomize. you have to 'train' with the girl to get to the scene, but where the girl end up is random (as far as I knew) so you doesn't always get the scene you want, making it even more grindy.
    It's good game, worth to give it try if you like sandbox style game and can endure the grind, or if don't you can always use cheat engine.
    7,5/10
  14. 5.00 star(s)

    monst3rz

    Beautiful game, I wish to see more from this creator. A lot of minigames, pretty nice pixel arts, logical story and seems no bugs. Especially if you like ntr, this game must have in your collection :) Literally the 1st game i wanted to rate 5 that much.
  15. 4.00 star(s)

    Greymantle

    Good Netori game, similar to NTRLegend, Handyman or NTRaholic with a welcome twist. Only negative point is the mosaic censoring. But hey, JP game, what can you expect ?
    You meet the two first girls in the dojo, the third one is a little trickier to unlock but it's still quite straightforward.
    Minigames are fine. Nothing revolutionary but no real bug.
    ATM, I recommend playing the 1.7.1 version, the 1.8 with MTL is almost unplayable : horrendous MTL and text overlapping each other because they overflow from their textbox...
  16. 4.00 star(s)

    N_Yah

    Of the games inspired by NTR Legend, this is easily the most polished, has the most original ideas, and the most content/game, it's much, much more solid.

    However, from a porn perspective, it's "Alright." It's not bad, but the scenes aren't that great, unlocking them is often a pain relying on RNG (she has to end up in the right location) and there always seems to just be less positions and less options than you'd expect-

    eg. The movie scenes are easily the best ones in the game, but I spent ages trying to figure out how to unlock the further lewd actions there only to realise those small choices are all you get. Thankfully they end with a great CG scene.

    Ultimately, it's a solid game. But as a porn game it's completely outdone by <Review rule #2: Do not mention games from other developers in your review >
  17. 5.00 star(s)

    SharkVampire

    Surprised to see so many low reviews, yet the translation thread dedicated to this game had 51 pages. It was on top for all these time and almost every day people were posting there, that's how popular this game is. On dlsite the game also has 5 stars from 5 thousand votes. And it should be understood that this is first of all a porn game. So the gameplay has a place here. If you do not like that there is gameplay - download the full save, but so you will kill the pleasure of achieving the result.

    As for my personal impressions, this game is definitely better than its predecessor NTR legend, also it is definitely better than Handyman legend. This game has quite a lot of good animations, good humor and in my opinion, a much better execution of game mechanics. All the characters have some plot dialogue and backstory, unlike other games in the series. However, there aren't very many of them, which is kind of sad. Mini-games are made quite well, unlike its predecessors, I played them with much more pleasure. They're not annoying at all. The number of possible scenes with partners is much higher than its predecessors, which again makes this game stand out in a positive light. The game time frame of a month is just significant, it's more than enough to accomplish absolutely everything. Finally, the game has secret scenes and has the option to get an ending with the girl of your choice. For some you need to fulfill the conditions, though.

    On the downside, maybe not the most detailed pixel art. It's not bad, but some parts are a bit blurry and not detailed enough. I've just seen games with really good pixel art, and even in Ntraholic it's better. But overall, the game is still pretty good in terms of graphics.

    Considering that this is the first game by this author, I can safely say that it came out very well. At the same time, as I understand, he worked either alone or in a small team, so let's hope that his future projects after the success of this game will turn out no worse.
  18. 3.00 star(s)

    kinglionheart

    A very boring and grindy NTR Legend inspired game.

    This is the third NTR Legend inspired game that released, after NTRHolic and Handyman Legend. It does do its own thing with gameplay but all minigames become troublesome because you need to do a lot of it to get to the hot sex. Most of interactive parts are Quick Time Events so you if you don't like those, tough luck.

    The gameplay is based on time-management. You only have certain amount of days to make the girls your sex kitties. You have use your time in a day wisely. You can sex the girls up but you need a lot of skills and equipment. Those skills and equipment cost money so you need to do minigames to get money. The drilling and fishing minigames are kinda fun but you need to do so much of time, it is just a pain. Just use a save with a lot of money unlocked to skip it.

    Now this seems like the dev's first game so I be too hard on all the bugs there are. But at the time of this writing, the game has been out for one month and there has been 8 bug fix updates. What I hate is how much time the game wastes on each action you make. Want to move to a new area? Wait 5-10 seconds and maybe the game crashes. This might be fixed now. Want to wake up and start a day? Wait 7 seconds each time for your character to wake up and get dressed. Want to sex the women? You have to stop to get dressed in a gi first. Wait 5 seconds. Want to fully sex up the women to maximize the corruption? Be prepared to hold down the mouse button for 3-4 minutes each time. It is seconds but you do these things so much it adds up.

    The two main girls have different scenes. It is a lot better than Handyman Legend where all the girls all the same scenes. You harass the girls in the dojo and when their corruption is high enough you sex them up in the dojo or their home while their boyfriend/husband is asleep. Then when they are fully corruption their men will watch and jerk off in shame. The third girl is different. You have to find her at certain time at night but that only leads you to join in on a gangbang. Overall the corruption of the women is bare-minimal. They let you do more things to them but they do not act any different. NTR Legend and Ntraholic did the corruption better.

    Compared with the other NTR Legend inspired games I rank this from best to worst:
    - NtraHolic
    - NTR Legend
    - This
    - Handyman Legend

    If you want to play this game, do yourself a favor and get a save with a lot of money unlocked to spare yourself from doing the same things over and over for little gains.
  19. 3.00 star(s)

    C-Zeta

    I have played this game before any translation were made available, this game is the by the book, the definition of an ok game.

    Do not get me wrong, the game is working well and the mechanics are well done, for the most part*. So why the hell i am only giving 3 stars? Cause my god, this game, he is not a a game that requires a lot of grind. No... HE IS A GAME THAT REQUIRES A HELL LOT OF GRIND!

    So yeah, outside the grindfest that this IS! This game is an actually ok game, could've been more interactions with the girls especially on their houses but, i think that is for more future updates since the dev ever since the release keep updating this game.

    (Pro tip, you need a lot of money in this game, go to the construction site and when dude gives you the option to use the drill, save money until you get the golden drill, then, buy both of then you only pay for the golden drill absurd price once. It is the best money making process in the game. Also get the mechanical arm, it will essentially be a quick cut off, of the girls's lewdness training.)
  20. 3.00 star(s)

    Thackerweil

    A game that sets itself apart from its Japanese counterparts in a positive way, for a change. In my view, its standout feature is the abundance and variety of mini-games, which have been carefully crafted to engage the player rather than merely prolonging the gameplay... At least those were my first thoughts.

    Story: Comments are superfluous – it's essentially absent. However, there are numerous humorous moments, and in certain instances, the game is even amusing to read, so everything holds up well in this aspect.

    Sex-scenes: This aspect falls into a category that neither adds nor detracts from the game. They are present, well-illustrated, but this is counterbalanced by the fact that you must repeatedly watch them in order to enhance your relationship with the character, leading to them quickly becoming monotonous.

    Gameplay: The primary issue with this game lies in total disrespect of your time. While there are indeed decent QTEs and regular events, as well as well-constructed scenes, after the initial 2 hours, you begin to realize that you're essentially going in circles. Hence, in the first 2 hours, you'll have uncovered approximately 50% of the content, only to find that it takes roughly 10-15 more hours to access the remaining 50%.

    Is this game worth your time?
    If you have an entire day to spare and are prepared to dedicate it to this game, engaging in repetitive actions for a solid 12 hours (if not longer) – then yes, it's more likely worth it. Otherwise, this game simply doesn't justify the time required.

    For NTR fans: There's no NTR, only netorase. It's only you who steals girls in the game.