Separating Futa/Trans and Futa/Trans protagonist tags

[nulnil]

Honestly, trans and futa have very little to do with each other. Trans, short for transgender or transition, means going from one gender to another. This usually means going from one "conventional" sex (male or female) to the other "conventional" sex. However, this can sometimes include futas. The thing is that in real life you cannot have both balls and pussy, like many have said. This means that this is like arguing over what kind of dragon something is.

What is a futa:

• Full Package: Boobs, Penis, Balls, Pussy (Sometimes where the balls are).
• Sans Balls: Boobs, Penis, Pussy
• Sans Pussy: Boobs, Penis, Balls

What isn't futa:

• Femboy: Male (Balls, Penis, No Boobs), Male Form, Female personality.
• Transgender Female/Male: Same as the normal sexes, save some of the form.

 

[Yngling]

What is kind of important, especially to a story, is whether a character was born futa (which is a mostly fantasy thing) or born male or female and in some way transitioned to the other gender.

Futa is mostly a fantasy thing, because even though hermaphrodites / intersex exists, it doesn't look anything like the way futa's are normally presented in adult material (tall, huge boobs, enormous dicks). I don't think I have ever seen a more or less realistic hermaphrodite / intersex person in a game.

Trans on the other hand is a real thing, which is mostly pschylogical, followed by changes in the body to become more like the other gender. How well that succeeds depends on a lot of things. But what is important is that they were not born that way but made a concious decision to become like that. Which on one hand takes a lot of character strength but on the other hand also puts a lot of strain on a person, let alone the impact of the reactions from others.

 

[Meaning Less]

Trans on the other hand is a real thing

But in games nothing is real, it is all art and story...

In fact, if a dev wants he could make a game using real porn trans woman art, but in the story he could claim they were born that way, therefore no transition has taken place. Now tell me which would be the correct tag for such game?

And if you think about it, this is exactly what happens in reverse a lot already, many devs use 3D futa character models and claim they are trans for story purposes.

 

[anne O'nymous]

What is a futa:

• Full Package: Boobs, Penis, Balls, Pussy (Sometimes where the balls are).
• Sans Balls: Boobs, Penis, Pussy
• Sans Pussy: Boobs, Penis, Balls

What isn't futa:

• Femboy: Male (Balls, Penis, No Boobs), Male Form, Female personality.
• Transgender Female/Male: Same as the normal sexes, save some of the form.

MtF mid transition fall in your "Sans Pussy: Boobs, Penis, Balls" futa.

If you weren't so focused on your desire to be right, you would have noticed what Meaning Less said regarding the importance of the story to make the difference between MtF and futa.

 

[Yngling]

But in games nothing is real, it is all art and story...

In fact, if a dev wants he could make a game using real porn trans woman art, but in the story he could claim they were born that way, therefore no transition has taken place. Now tell me which would be the correct tag for such game?

And if you think about it, this is exactly what happens in reverse a lot already, many devs use 3D futa character models and claim they are trans for story purposes.

MtF mid transition fall in your "Sans Pussy: Boobs, Penis, Balls" futa.

If you weren't so focused on your desire to be right, you would have noticed what Meaning Less said regarding the importance of the story to make the difference between MtF and futa.

The point is their origin.

Futa, probably doesn't exist IRL in the way it's generally portrayed in games. Thus it's fantasy.
Trans, does exist IRL, in various forms and shapes.

Whether it matters? Orcs and elves also don't exist IRL but occasionally I still enjoy novels or games featuring them. That's ok.

However I think the actual transitioning with all the problems that come with it, can be a better story driver than a fantasy species. Unless you are Tolkien and a master at creating lore.

Unfortunately most game devs are not anything like Tolkien and don't get much further than rehashing the same old stuff. In those cases, it's better to stick to something that could be plausible in reality.

 

[anne O'nymous]

Futa, probably doesn't exist IRL in the way it's generally portrayed in games. Thus it's fantasy.

The word "futa" is used to represent ladyboys, hermaphrodites, and "true hermaphrodites" (hermaphrodites with balls). And they all exist for real in real life.
"True hermaphrodites" are exceptional (~5% of the ~5% of people suffering from disorder of sexual differentiation), but they are not fictional. Of course, there's probably none that looks like in the games. Some have internal testicles, others have atrophied ones, and there's those who will have an atrophied vagina. None, except in case of internal testicles, will have labia. A true hermaphrodite is not the "put the male genitalia meshes and the female genitalia meshes on the same model" that can be seen in games. But it's not because their representation (that in fact is the less used form of "futa") is a fantasy, that those people do not exist.

Trans, does exist IRL, in various forms and shapes.

And ?
Neither Meaning Less, nor me, said that they don't exist. What we are saying is that, the only way to differentiate a ladyboy and a MtF mid-transition is the way the character is depicted in the game. And since really few authors are good at writing transgender characters, most of the time you'll know that it's a MtF mid-transition because it will be said.

 

[Yngling]

The word "futa" is used to represent ladyboys, hermaphrodites, and "true hermaphrodites" (hermaphrodites with balls). And they all exist for real in real life.
"True hermaphrodites" are exceptional (~5% of the ~5% of people suffering from disorder of sexual differentiation), but they are not fictional. Of course, there's probably none that looks like in the games. Some have internal testicles, others have atrophied ones, and there's those who will have an atrophied vagina. None, except in case of internal testicles, will have labia. A true hermaphrodite is not the "put the male genitalia meshes and the female genitalia meshes on the same model" that can be seen in games. But it's not because their representation (that in fact is the less used form of "futa") is a fantasy, that those people do not exist.

Looks like you are agreeing with me...

Futa, as it's depicted in games, does not exist.

The forms that you describe, I have never seen in a game.

Therefore, any game containing futa must be fantasy, in the same way that a game featuring dragons, unicorns and elfs must be fantasy.

 

[Evizzy89]

ill simplify for everyone
futa is the term people use when they picture themselves being fucked or fucking somthin with a dick so they can adamantly claim theyre 100% straight, and not the least bit curious

 

[anne O'nymous]

Looks like you are agreeing with me...

Looks like you should read again what I wrote. This time without forgetting everything that don't follow your narrative.

Futa, as it's depicted in games, does not exist.

Ladyboys are included in "futa", they are depicted in games, and they exist.
Hermaphrodites without balls are included in "futa", they are depicted in games, and they exist. Yes, with erectile penis that looks like a penis and a "fully usable" vagina.
The only thing that probably don't exist is the minority of times where "futa" is used to depict a true hermaphrodite that would also have balls.

Conclusion, ~80% of the futa depicted in games exist. Even if it was just 51% it would be way too many to claim that they don't exist.

The forms that you describe, I have never seen in a game.

Oh, really ? You never seen a single game with a hermaphrodite character that have internal testicles ? You never seen a single game with a character that have a vagina, a dick, no balls, but still is able to ejaculate ?

 

[Rafster]

character that have a vagina, a dick, no balls, but still is able to ejaculate

That would be the luckiest son of a bitch in the entire world

 

[anne O'nymous]

That would be the luckiest son of a bitch in the entire world

Do you want it wrapped in a bear costume, or is it to eat on the spot ?

 

[Icarus Media]

Care to go a bit deeper?

Never say that when the topic is futanari....