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Ok I'm knew, I need some advice. I got many questions.
I DL and played the RPG Maker variant ch 1-4 and played through one potential path, tried to alternate but feel like im kind of stuck and the sequences are a bit linear. I'd really appreciate if people who are more familiar with the game could help me with some questions I have and give me some advice.
1. I landed on the cuckhold path I think. I saw there was a blackmail path as well, the question would be how I get there. I have a bit of a problem with the game, which is that I have little to no idea which "choices" actually lead to me going on one path or the other. I know there is a couple of dialogue choices. What even are "choices"? Like, do only my dialogue choices change what happens, or do I also need to go to certain places with Fred/Jason or talk to certain people and that is also a "choice" with which I change the path/later scenes?
1a. Like making the decision to interrupt Jason and Cami for example, the issue is that I feel like me interrupting would lead to nothing happening between them down the line. Is that correct?
1b. Or if you have to say Cami looks hot or beautiful in something. I know to avoid the "slut" path (according to the tutorial) I need to compliment Cami and be nice to her as Fred and I need to do the same as Jason
2. Is there a way to play through this game where Fred is not aware or not witnessing the NTR happening (hidden cheating), or is every scene in the cuckhold (and blackmail) path automatically Fred noticing and liking it?
3. What are the stats? And where can I see them? Lust? Anger? Morbid? Is there some way to track those and to see what stat will cause me to get certain scenes?
4. What are the different heart symbols? I know green means optional quest, purple seems to be optional erotic scenes. But I feel the "normal" hearts are the main quest and I can not avoid doing that. The tutorial said I should focus on Cami and avoid other women if I can if I want to make this a cuckhold path thing. So I wonder in how far can Jason avoid having sexy times with other women or is that just something I need to do as a player to progress the game?
5. In the beginning the tutorial said that there would be a daily routine (often). Like going to school, then work, etc. And that leaving Cami alone to work would open up the door for Jason to slide in. But I played through that version of the game and I had like 3-4 school days, after that was the birthday party. And after the birthday party it told me that is the end of the current version. So it feels like what the tutorial message said made no sense
6. Which leads me to this important question: The game (for me) ended after the birthday party with Fred going to another room setting up a camera on Cami and then Jason coming in looming over her. And then it was like "that's it". But that was just 0.3 or Chapter 3. So my question is: where is chapter 4? Is that not in the RPGM version? (cause it said CH 1-4) Is that in the Ren'Py one then? Or is the Ren'Py version a complete redo and starts at ch. 1?
Basically, to sum up what I want. I would like to play through the game, get as many Cami x Jason scenes as possible. Would like to have a path where she cheats on Fred behind his back with him only getting to know minor details (and us as Jason seeing what happened though). If that is not possible, Id like to go the path where she flirts with Jason more and more and then gets tempted eventually, independently of if Fred sees it or not. Maybe also a path where she starts wearing the QoS earrings or smth like that? Idk, just something where Jason is gradually "stealing" her. I'm not that much interested in the other girls.
I mainly want to know what "decisions" to look for to get on a path like that.
I'm also curious about the blackmail path and how Cami herself feels and acts during it, but that is a secondary concern.
Thanks in advance for anyone answering.
I DL and played the RPG Maker variant ch 1-4 and played through one potential path, tried to alternate but feel like im kind of stuck and the sequences are a bit linear. I'd really appreciate if people who are more familiar with the game could help me with some questions I have and give me some advice.
1. I landed on the cuckhold path I think. I saw there was a blackmail path as well, the question would be how I get there. I have a bit of a problem with the game, which is that I have little to no idea which "choices" actually lead to me going on one path or the other. I know there is a couple of dialogue choices. What even are "choices"? Like, do only my dialogue choices change what happens, or do I also need to go to certain places with Fred/Jason or talk to certain people and that is also a "choice" with which I change the path/later scenes?
1a. Like making the decision to interrupt Jason and Cami for example, the issue is that I feel like me interrupting would lead to nothing happening between them down the line. Is that correct?
1b. Or if you have to say Cami looks hot or beautiful in something. I know to avoid the "slut" path (according to the tutorial) I need to compliment Cami and be nice to her as Fred and I need to do the same as Jason
2. Is there a way to play through this game where Fred is not aware or not witnessing the NTR happening (hidden cheating), or is every scene in the cuckhold (and blackmail) path automatically Fred noticing and liking it?
3. What are the stats? And where can I see them? Lust? Anger? Morbid? Is there some way to track those and to see what stat will cause me to get certain scenes?
4. What are the different heart symbols? I know green means optional quest, purple seems to be optional erotic scenes. But I feel the "normal" hearts are the main quest and I can not avoid doing that. The tutorial said I should focus on Cami and avoid other women if I can if I want to make this a cuckhold path thing. So I wonder in how far can Jason avoid having sexy times with other women or is that just something I need to do as a player to progress the game?
5. In the beginning the tutorial said that there would be a daily routine (often). Like going to school, then work, etc. And that leaving Cami alone to work would open up the door for Jason to slide in. But I played through that version of the game and I had like 3-4 school days, after that was the birthday party. And after the birthday party it told me that is the end of the current version. So it feels like what the tutorial message said made no sense
6. Which leads me to this important question: The game (for me) ended after the birthday party with Fred going to another room setting up a camera on Cami and then Jason coming in looming over her. And then it was like "that's it". But that was just 0.3 or Chapter 3. So my question is: where is chapter 4? Is that not in the RPGM version? (cause it said CH 1-4) Is that in the Ren'Py one then? Or is the Ren'Py version a complete redo and starts at ch. 1?
Basically, to sum up what I want. I would like to play through the game, get as many Cami x Jason scenes as possible. Would like to have a path where she cheats on Fred behind his back with him only getting to know minor details (and us as Jason seeing what happened though). If that is not possible, Id like to go the path where she flirts with Jason more and more and then gets tempted eventually, independently of if Fred sees it or not. Maybe also a path where she starts wearing the QoS earrings or smth like that? Idk, just something where Jason is gradually "stealing" her. I'm not that much interested in the other girls.
I mainly want to know what "decisions" to look for to get on a path like that.
I'm also curious about the blackmail path and how Cami herself feels and acts during it, but that is a secondary concern.
Thanks in advance for anyone answering.
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I advise you to take a look at the walkthrough on the front page.
- Jun 8, 2017
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thanks for the advice, I did. I know a bit more now, still not sure on some of these questions though.
What is the exact difference between cheating, cuckhold and blackmail?
Here is what I think:
cheating: Fred does (mostly) not know, Camila likes Jason eventually
cuckhold: Fred witnesses the cheating but it turns him on and he is afraid of Jason, so he doesn't intervene, Camila will eventually like Jason
blackmail: Fred doesn't know, Camila does not like Jason, but will eventually like the sex
is that correct? and are any of the routes close to the initially planned "slut" route? cause I want to avoid that at any cost, not much interest in Camila doing the dirty with someone other than Jason or Fred, aside from maybe 1 or 2 scenes with special circumstances where Fred or Jason make her do it.
- Aug 23, 2024
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I only played RPGM version cahpter 1-4.
Cheat: Fred is unaware and Cam slowly gets more slutty. Other girls get blackmailed by Jason.
Cuck: Fred is slowly starting to like getting cheated on but is still in shock. All girls are slutty and there is some nightmare sequences with Freds mom (yuck).
Blackmail: Cam is forced/extorted by Jason and Fred is unaware.
Red Room: Cam very quickly goes full slut and the rest is pure cuck route.
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Actually if that is accurate then imo cheating is the best route so far. Good to know ill check it out for sure.
I DL the 0.5 renpy thing (old not the new test/beta one) and clicked on "cuckhold" originally, but idk, the scene I saw looked legit like hidden cheating. But we'll see.
So far, I like the elements of the game that involve Cam and Jason being flirty, and if what you say about the general direction is correct than that sounds good too, would probably make for good corruption overall.
Let's hope the general gameplay gets a bit better, I feel like the renpy version is already a bit better, the RPGM is incredibly clunky. That being said ill check out the cheating route then some time soon. Thanks for the info
In terms of just lazy click and read to advance the story, REN PY is boring. But at least the update comes faster and easy for DEV to work with.
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I find your assessment very interesting. It almost sounds like there is a lot of substance to the old RPGM version. But the version I played ends abruptly at the end of Freds birthday party and it doesnt feel like there is a lot of development before that. Yes there is like a handful of days, but it feels very rushed. It doesnt feel like I am playing an entire game, or half a game, or multiple chapters, it literally just feels like I play a single chapter. And the version at the end says that its 0.3c, but the description when downloading says it should be 4 chapters, and the renpy game starts saying that I should play the RPGM version and should have played 4 chapters. Its really confusing.
It is because the DEV focus on one update each for the paths on the same game file. What you finished in the RPGM is at the end of that update, and was suppose to keep going There is more free roaming and freedom to interact with in game mechanics with RPGM. However RPGM has a limit to its system and will eventually cap. Adding more stuff on eventually makes the game unstable and not manageable. Since DEV fuse all three paths, the RPGM system capped as the files got bigger. Honestly DEV should of create three separate RPGM game file calling each what it is, cheating, cuckold, and blackmail all with the same prolog. Should DEV cap, he can then create a new RPGM game files as part two or continuation and go from there. Or DEV could simply just create a new RPGM called SHADOW OF DESIRE 2 and repeat the three in game paths with a small prolog that ties things together as a intro, and simply branch off back into the three separate paths. But at last DEV went the other route.
Due to this the DEV move over to REN PY where it is easier to manage, and what do you guess start from scratch taking bits of the plot from the original RPGM. In REN PY he can focus strictly on story, art, renders and do not have to manage the in game mechanics of the RPGM. Since RPGM requires a lot of work. You lose the free roaming, game mechanics and suspense aspect of guessing out things for yourself while playing in game. But in turn you get faster update, more visual novel, animations, drastically improved arts, and point and click to move the plot forward. You also finish the game faster as there is nothing to do but point, click, and read. I preferred the RPGM but I do understand that it requires more works. Other just want to click and read. You make that call for yourself once you get into the REN PY updates.
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Yea I prefer RPGM too, if it is done well. But dev hasn't used the RPGM mechanics in any meaningful way from what I have played, so it doesn't feel like a huge loss for me. One has to also keep in mind that there is a lot of RPGM games that have tons more content than that, the issue probably only exists because the dev used a certain RPGM engine that is not the newest (newer ones have far bigger caps) and did not properly manage the files. And as you said, they could have easily just made different paths and sequels, though Im sure it would be annoying to change gameplay things in one version then have to manually change them for other versions as well and do that constantly. But there are solutions for this. The work seems a bit shoddy to me in many areas. Not that I haven't seen worse.
Ahh cheers but, how do i access the map then? Im stuck at melissas apartment and cant find a way to leave the area. Probably being stupid but seems like ive tried everything.
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Don't remember everything, but the game allow to go out if you have an opportunity. So you must be missed something in her apartment (sometimes you don't have an action mark).
Right now I can recommend you to check a walkthrough from the main post (it's in RPGM download section).
Yo, played the 0.4.4 renpy and the 0.5. I just downloaded the 0.4 (rpgm). Actually, im just wondering how to access the CGs/scenes im missing. someone said pressing G allow us to access gallery ? in which version ? does nothing in the 0.4(rpgm) and in the 0.5. I just would like to find a saves( with a working usable gallery) or even a CGs link for seeing everything. If someone can share it, thanks !