only MILF

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What is the point of all these disputes and analyses? Many people here are able to buy or support their favorite developer. BUT. They cannot for one reason or another. For example, I cannot. Because the politicians of my country blocked the sites Patreon.Discord, etc. And many payment banks also have different policies.:(:cautious:
 

desertoo

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Ahh, well, yes, 5k, and the taxes? What do you have to pay of those 5k? I would like to know how much is left after having paid everything.

Whoever says he earns a lot has never paid a tax and depending on the country, taxes are even abusive
Depends where he lives. Like Doshima said
If the Dev is not from a country that uses u$d as their currency, like Shaman
We only know he dosen't live in USA. You have to ask shaman how much he gains if you are interested to it.
 

pussyreaperxxx

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They are neither worse or better, their position is quite logical: if you want something, pay for it. It's just the way the world works. Laughing at them says a lot about you guys
Nobody is going to pay the exorbitant price the dev has put on the test version unless they're in a parasocial relationship with him or the characters. People can either laugh at them or cry about them, that's their choice. The quality just isn't there, his writing has also gotten worse since the initial versions and many of my favourite plots have just ceased to exist because there's no structure.

It's just an anti-piracy tax that his supporters are forced to pay because I leaked the game once and then someone else did after, he changed the system. So buying and posting the game isn't everything, dev is an asshole about it. He'll just make it $100 or something. I already agreed people should wait for lower tiers.
 

Semetrika

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Nobody is going to pay the exorbitant price the dev has put on the test version unless they're in a parasocial relationship with him or the characters. People can either laugh at them or cry about them, that's their choice. The quality just isn't there, his writing has also gotten worse since the initial versions and many of my favourite plots have just ceased to exist because there's no structure.

It's just an anti-piracy tax that his supporters are forced to pay because I leaked the game once and then someone else did after, he changed the system. So buying and posting the game isn't everything, dev is an asshole about it. He'll just make it $100 or something. I already agreed people should wait for lower tiers.
Actually pay for it even dollar is joke. The only one good think are some character design which i like, but everythink else is terrible.
He doesn't even bother reduce file size and 8.5gb is massive fail. he compress only images, but totally ignore animations. Why he leave 10-30 sec animation loops in files since most of these loops actually can be mostly 3-5 seconds? 4.6gb take only this section and it can be cut to half size maybe more.
Also his switch from RPGM to Ren'py is stupid. He just do same mistakes and issues for that people criticize him.
About other thinks rather no comment. There is too much problems and i'm dissapointment. I was support him from start and hope he get better, but after few updates there was no improvements so i stop it and wait if someone put here link.
Why i bother? I don't know i just take it as example how not to make game like this. It's perfect example. :whistle: But i don't think it's purely fault of Shaman. I mean people who support it are on blame too. If they not criticize his mistakes, then there is no improvements or changes. Which is sometimes kinda impossible if your community are full of fanatics. (this can be applied to every fanbase).
 

ahoboman

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Is this the sad state people are in. I think some of ya need to go touch grass. Maybe hit to the gym. Or I don't know go do something else. It is just porn and ya fuming over it. Seeing how this is what people resolve to is making second guessing if I want to finish making my own NTR BBC game. At this point I don't know if its worth it.
 
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desertoo

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Actually pay for it even dollar is joke. The only one good think are some character design which i like, but everythink else is terrible.
He doesn't even bother reduce file size and 8.5gb is massive fail. he compress only images, but totally ignore animations. Why he leave 10-30 sec animation loops in files since most of these loops actually can be mostly 3-5 seconds? 4.6gb take only this section and it can be cut to half size maybe more.
Also his switch from RPGM to Ren'py is stupid. He just do same mistakes and issues for that people criticize him.
About other thinks rather no comment. There is too much problems and i'm dissapointment. I was support him from start and hope he get better, but after few updates there was no improvements so i stop it and wait if someone put here link.
Why i bother? I don't know i just take it as example how not to make game like this. It's perfect example. :whistle: But i don't think it's purely fault of Shaman. I mean people who support it are on blame too. If they not criticize his mistakes, then there is no improvements or changes. Which is sometimes kinda impossible if your community are full of fanatics. (this can be applied to every fanbase).
Disagree a lot. RPGM was stupid bullshit for a game like this. After the change he gained more followers. The size of the game ok, you are right, is very big, but for the rest i strongly disagree
 

1000-7?

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Disagree a lot. RPGM was stupid bullshit for a game like this. After the change he gained more followers. The size of the game ok, you are right, is very big, but for the rest i strongly disagree
agree. Renpy was his best decision so far. There are many aspects that can be improved technically. But overall, I like everything else. Blud goes too far with that take.
 

tarzan999

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Disagree a lot. RPGM was stupid bullshit for a game like this. After the change he gained more followers. The size of the game ok, you are right, is very big, but for the rest i strongly disagree
I still thank God once every week that there are playthrough videos of the RPGM version online, because I refuse to waste time playing RPGM games.
 

Vampire_Lord

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He is literally just saying; if you can't wait, buy it yourself, which is a fair thing to say if you have a bit of common sense :coffee:
- That said leaking the game within the first 24 hours is still a bit bad manner EVEN if its a pirate site. Give the developer a chance to make a few new subs, before leaking it. Else shamandev will just vanish if income drops to 0, like we have seen happen to other devs. Which would be sad since he do amazing content!

Speaking of amazing content, great update, love the great NTR scenes, and also the monster volume of content/scenes.
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Great update. Keep em cumming! :coffee:
what about journey abroad, alansya whas my first eroge and it whas amazing but the studio is so quiet since that, is alive ?
 

Semetrika

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agree. Renpy was his best decision so far. There are many aspects that can be improved technically. But overall, I like everything else. Blud goes too far with that take.
Not really. You play it same as RPGM. Difference is you can faster skip scenes and it's more smoother around, but useless sandbox is still here. It's not even game, but visual novel try be somethink else. In best case scenario it's just waste of player time like it was in RPGM.
 

1000-7?

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Not really. You play it same as RPGM. Difference is you can faster skip scenes and it's more smoother around, but useless sandbox is still here. It's not even game, but visual novel try be somethink else. In best case scenario it's just waste of player time like it was in RPGM.
yep. Sandbox feels forced and unnecessary. Besides it disrupts the narrative. Dev need to completely get rid of ridiculous tasks like go to point A, get the key, then go to point B and open the chest.
 

ahoboman

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yep. Sandbox feels forced and unnecessary. Besides it disrupts the narrative. Dev need to completely get rid of ridiculous tasks like go to point A, get the key, then go to point B and open the chest.
I get you wanna beat your meat faster than you sane bolt can sprint the 50 yard dash line, but some of us like slow burn and exploration. The sandbox is fine as long as it is done right. I prefer the RPGM maker as it required more planning and trying save multiple paths. REN PY is just skipping and reading the horny bits right when the action starts. If that is your power play might as well just open of the photo and video in the file folder and go straight to the action. BEAT DAT MEAT! The scenes are all there. Only thing that sucks with RPGM is the limited system and not enough save files.

The rest is up to the DEV pov and vison of their art.
 
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