- Dec 13, 2016
- 2,217
- 4,273
True true, did you check his income 1 week ago compared to just now, meaning after a release just dropped
?Pretty sure a lot have bought in to play the new update, like myself!
- Would be interesting to see his normal income, like in one months time
- Nov 5, 2024
- 75
- 98
- Aug 23, 2024
- 114
- 134
These poor guys begging for the next update, are the real Shadows of Desire.
Yes i checked on 29th December. I do not remember the number exactly, it was less than 5k but more than 4kTrue true, did you check his income 1 week ago compared to just now, meaning after a release just dropped
Pretty sure a lot have bought in to play the new update, like myself!
- Would be interesting to see his normal income, like in one months time
- Aug 5, 2023
- 1,277
- 2,534
Ahh, well, yes, 5k, and the taxes? What do you have to pay of those 5k? I would like to know how much is left after having paid everything.
Whoever says he earns a lot has never paid a tax and depending on the country, taxes are even abusive
Can we just establish that "just buy it" people are worse than the beggars and wait for tier 2?
- Nov 5, 2024
- 75
- 98
- May 19, 2017
- 657
- 3,105
Patreon has this order:
1st: Commission taken from every subscription (10%)
2nd: Commission taken from the site you want to send the money (10% from the total on Paypal, $1 from the total on Payoneer)
3rd: If the Dev is not from a country that uses u$d as their currency, like Shaman, he has to send the money from that site to a cryptocurrency site to convert his money into crypto dollars (this also takes a nice amount of commission)
4th: To retire the money from this cryptocurrency site, he needs to use either a "send to my bank account" option (which takes a decent amount of commission), or a P2P option (which also takes commission, but not that much.
This is for Patreon, but SubscribeStar doesn't use Paypal and Payoneer. From what I spoke with Shaman, SS is more difficult when it comes to redeem the money. From starters, it takes a week, if you're an active Dev, to receive the money from SS (the first time he redeemed the money, he had to wait 20 days). On Patreon you can have the money in your bank account in less than an hour.
You lose at least 20% from your total amount made on Patreon/SS, the more more you make, the more you will lose.
- Dec 30, 2020
- 4,265
- 4,868
What is the point of all these disputes and analyses? Many people here are able to buy or support their favorite developer. BUT. They cannot for one reason or another. For example, I cannot. Because the politicians of my country blocked the sites Patreon.Discord, etc. And many payment banks also have different policies.
- Aug 5, 2023
- 1,277
- 2,534
They are neither worse or better, their position is quite logical: if you want something, pay for it. It's just the way the world works. Laughing at them says a lot about you guys
Depends where he lives. Like Doshima said
We only know he dosen't live in USA. You have to ask shaman how much he gains if you are interested to it.
Nobody is going to pay the exorbitant price the dev has put on the test version unless they're in a parasocial relationship with him or the characters. People can either laugh at them or cry about them, that's their choice. The quality just isn't there, his writing has also gotten worse since the initial versions and many of my favourite plots have just ceased to exist because there's no structure.
It's just an anti-piracy tax that his supporters are forced to pay because I leaked the game once and then someone else did after, he changed the system. So buying and posting the game isn't everything, dev is an asshole about it. He'll just make it $100 or something. I already agreed people should wait for lower tiers.
i'm gonna bet some money in the casino, if i don't come back and post the release, i'ts because i lost everything and i couldn't afford the $45
Actually pay for it even dollar is joke. The only one good think are some character design which i like, but everythink else is terrible.
He doesn't even bother reduce file size and 8.5gb is massive fail. he compress only images, but totally ignore animations. Why he leave 10-30 sec animation loops in files since most of these loops actually can be mostly 3-5 seconds? 4.6gb take only this section and it can be cut to half size maybe more.
Also his switch from RPGM to Ren'py is stupid. He just do same mistakes and issues for that people criticize him.
About other thinks rather no comment. There is too much problems and i'm dissapointment. I was support him from start and hope he get better, but after few updates there was no improvements so i stop it and wait if someone put here link.
Why i bother? I don't know i just take it as example how not to make game like this. It's perfect example.
But i don't think it's purely fault of Shaman. I mean people who support it are on blame too. If they not criticize his mistakes, then there is no improvements or changes. Which is sometimes kinda impossible if your community are full of fanatics. (this can be applied to every fanbase).
Is this the sad state people are in. I think some of ya need to go touch grass. Maybe hit to the gym. Or I don't know go do something else. It is just porn and ya fuming over it. Seeing how this is what people resolve to is making second guessing if I want to finish making my own NTR BBC game. At this point I don't know if its worth it.
Disagree a lot. RPGM was stupid bullshit for a game like this. After the change he gained more followers. The size of the game ok, you are right, is very big, but for the rest i strongly disagreeActually pay for it even dollar is joke. The only one good think are some character design which i like, but everythink else is terrible.
He doesn't even bother reduce file size and 8.5gb is massive fail. he compress only images, but totally ignore animations. Why he leave 10-30 sec animation loops in files since most of these loops actually can be mostly 3-5 seconds? 4.6gb take only this section and it can be cut to half size maybe more.
Also his switch from RPGM to Ren'py is stupid. He just do same mistakes and issues for that people criticize him.
About other thinks rather no comment. There is too much problems and i'm dissapointment. I was support him from start and hope he get better, but after few updates there was no improvements so i stop it and wait if someone put here link.
Why i bother? I don't know i just take it as example how not to make game like this. It's perfect example.