Remember that the Observer can launch an attack and trap Rabiane before she enters the fake church:
SiNiSistar 1&2 Lore Discussion
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rakehandle
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Full list of Haanja's appearances:9....hell, even in those the don't give us a CG for her
we only see her cg when she gets eaten.
There is a proper lewd cg of her on the parasite cure scene but is covered by Lilia:
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Zombification
Enlarged Breast Treatment (just sits there in the leech version)
Parasite Treatment 1, 2
Abomination Broodling Harbinger 3
Demihuman Remnant Leader
Otherworlder defeat (not in gallery), 1, 2, and 3
Curse/Favor of the Otherworlder (only if she's in the cathedral)
So with the loosest definition she gets 12 scenes, and only 2 of these get a cg (Zombification and Para Treatment 2) and Lilia's fat ass is covering her entire body in the good one!
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Wait 1,2,3 not in gallery? Which one is that, I never see it lol. The only Otherworlder defeat scene I saw was the one similar to the tutorial boss (Nanny). Never even seen the Otherworlder slug scene.
You have to survive and protect Haanja, when she is ready the Otherworlder will traop you both in a rape illusion. You have to struggle to get free, but you get those scenes if you fail.
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The actual defeat scene isn't in the gallery, where Lilia falls, the barrier around Haanja breaks and she gets turned to purple sludge. 1 is Lilia becoming a broodling nanny after that, 2 is the scene you need to struggle out of when you keep the barrier up, and 3 is if you don't struggle out in time. 1, 2, and 3 are in the gallery.
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I think it's interesting how this is very different from SiN 2's scenes with the Father, probably a difference in their manifestation in the real world.
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That's not so much a problem if they can exist in multiple realities. It is very easy to assume that Rabiane fighting in the fleshy hole against the eye of the observer and the slug fucking her in the dream state happens in the same time.
However, one more thing. It is possible that the slug fucking her is reality while the fight is the dream state, considering in that fight the observer can blast her with a laser, vaporizing her body, and then the sex scene progresses and she is back in the fight again.
It's both. According to Nennai, the Observer caught Rabiane the moment the entered the fake church, she is mind controlled into fucking the slug. Nennai explained that this stage is a world of nightmares akin to a new reality, created to torture and break Rabiane. If she loses, the mind control becomes permanent and she will fully accept the intercourse with he slug as one does with a lover. The Observer intends to trap her in a reality where she becomes a mother of higher beings for all eternity. This, ironically, spells its downfall because its current body is exposed to her attacks.
okay. my personal theory. the slug is infact the otherworlder in its physical manifestation in both games.
the slug in the sequel kinda appears out of nowhere. after the otherworlders manifestation is "killed" wich only happens if his wishy washy, "is that happening or not" mind controll is presumably broken so another mind controll nightmare state is somewhat unlikely . unless it is playing some truly advanced 5D chess here.
and still lilia is easily overwhelmed and willingly gives herself to the slug. unless you hit it. wich rules out the same kind of mindcontroll as in the first game. as you are clearly not controlled.
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further. the voluntarily dreamstate to dispell the abomniation in growing has you fight against what looks like an embrio encased in the same kind of slugs. no matter what kind of abomination is growing. and we know that the otherworlders influence is infact mutating new births. far more directly than what or who the father is supposed to be.
these slugs are also the only thing aside from the cultists magic that can break the seal. so they are either immensely powerfull. or you are way more vulnerable in this dream state. than at any other point of the game.
including under the influence of the pollen of the dreamtree during its fight. wich is also one of the few occasions where the aroused status appears. but without lasting effects.
directly loosing to the slugs. has the birth be a slug. no matter in what circumstances the pregnancy occours. and what abomination would otherwhise come forth. IMO that is because that is the only time in game where the otherworlder has the potential to influence the mother and the child directly.
the imitation abomination herald. only mimicks those slugs. with infected humans. creating more infected humans. wich IMO means that the slugs. are in fact the origin of the mutation. not just a visualization of the occurence.
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the first game also has multiple minor otherworlders appear. and be directly summoned by the cultists. so some form of direct physical appearance , if flawed has to be possible.
with the purpose of the lab to be an artivicial hybridisation of the summoned minor otherworlders. wich appear as slugs or centipedes with more stable physical bodys.
yet any mention of a similar lab. is missing in the second part so far. and still we encounter the parasites , very similar to the ones in the first game. wich are directly stated to have been created in the lab.
offspring of those parasitized victims tend to be similar to the host mother, rather than the parasite or the original parasites hosts. as we can see with the birth of pigmen during the pig scenes.
the only exeption is the imitation abomination, wich gives birth to the exact same body that makes up itself.
summoned otherworldly beings are on the other hand compleatly missing in the second part. even the things in the cathedral and its basement. are stated to be mutations or raised dead. of ordinary humans and creatures. or simply magic creations.
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furthermore. the brainslugs. appearing in the library. are stated to be the form cultists trying to understand the otherworlder once their bodys are insufficient for their knowledge about the otherworlder. and the light from their eyes. turns your brain intoo another slug. shedding your body as its trying to understand the eldrich knowledge it is bombarded with.
this being the only slug or snail like enemys in the sequel outside of dreamstates fighting the direct influence of the otherworlder. or "the" slug at the ending. would hint at a inherent connection with the nature of the otherworld and slugs.
especially since the "father" seems to have an destinctly human-ish shape.
actually , the "father" seems almost feminine in its appearance.
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wich brings me to my theory. that some part of the infestation of the first game survived. wich explains the parasites, and that the otherworlder dubbed "the father" is either rabiane mutated from the slug influence or their offspring. after the scene in the fake church.
and that the slug appearing after the fathers presumed purification, is either the original outworlder, taking a new host. or attempting a new "true" birth, thru Lilia.
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the rambling of a madman aside. its proppably more likely that all these observations are just thinking to deeply about it, and that the dev just really is a fan of the same few fetishes. and really likes legion from castelvania and resident evil 4 las plagas so he decided to put the same shit in the games multiple times and dosnt give a fuck about explaining them further. as logic and cosmic horror mix unwell.
the slug in the sequel kinda appears out of nowhere. after the otherworlders manifestation is "killed" wich only happens if his wishy washy, "is that happening or not" mind controll is presumably broken so another mind controll nightmare state is somewhat unlikely . unless it is playing some truly advanced 5D chess here.
and still lilia is easily overwhelmed and willingly gives herself to the slug. unless you hit it. wich rules out the same kind of mindcontroll as in the first game. as you are clearly not controlled.
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further. the voluntarily dreamstate to dispell the abomniation in growing has you fight against what looks like an embrio encased in the same kind of slugs. no matter what kind of abomination is growing. and we know that the otherworlders influence is infact mutating new births. far more directly than what or who the father is supposed to be.
these slugs are also the only thing aside from the cultists magic that can break the seal. so they are either immensely powerfull. or you are way more vulnerable in this dream state. than at any other point of the game.
including under the influence of the pollen of the dreamtree during its fight. wich is also one of the few occasions where the aroused status appears. but without lasting effects.
directly loosing to the slugs. has the birth be a slug. no matter in what circumstances the pregnancy occours. and what abomination would otherwhise come forth. IMO that is because that is the only time in game where the otherworlder has the potential to influence the mother and the child directly.
the imitation abomination herald. only mimicks those slugs. with infected humans. creating more infected humans. wich IMO means that the slugs. are in fact the origin of the mutation. not just a visualization of the occurence.
-
the first game also has multiple minor otherworlders appear. and be directly summoned by the cultists. so some form of direct physical appearance , if flawed has to be possible.
with the purpose of the lab to be an artivicial hybridisation of the summoned minor otherworlders. wich appear as slugs or centipedes with more stable physical bodys.
yet any mention of a similar lab. is missing in the second part so far. and still we encounter the parasites , very similar to the ones in the first game. wich are directly stated to have been created in the lab.
offspring of those parasitized victims tend to be similar to the host mother, rather than the parasite or the original parasites hosts. as we can see with the birth of pigmen during the pig scenes.
the only exeption is the imitation abomination, wich gives birth to the exact same body that makes up itself.
summoned otherworldly beings are on the other hand compleatly missing in the second part. even the things in the cathedral and its basement. are stated to be mutations or raised dead. of ordinary humans and creatures. or simply magic creations.
-
furthermore. the brainslugs. appearing in the library. are stated to be the form cultists trying to understand the otherworlder once their bodys are insufficient for their knowledge about the otherworlder. and the light from their eyes. turns your brain intoo another slug. shedding your body as its trying to understand the eldrich knowledge it is bombarded with.
this being the only slug or snail like enemys in the sequel outside of dreamstates fighting the direct influence of the otherworlder. or "the" slug at the ending. would hint at a inherent connection with the nature of the otherworld and slugs.
especially since the "father" seems to have an destinctly human-ish shape.
actually , the "father" seems almost feminine in its appearance.
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wich brings me to my theory. that some part of the infestation of the first game survived. wich explains the parasites, and that the otherworlder dubbed "the father" is either rabiane mutated from the slug influence or their offspring. after the scene in the fake church.
and that the slug appearing after the fathers presumed purification, is either the original outworlder, taking a new host. or attempting a new "true" birth, thru Lilia.
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the rambling of a madman aside. its proppably more likely that all these observations are just thinking to deeply about it, and that the dev just really is a fan of the same few fetishes. and really likes legion from castelvania and resident evil 4 las plagas so he decided to put the same shit in the games multiple times and dosnt give a fuck about explaining them further. as logic and cosmic horror mix unwell.
And that's why the Holy Knights exist, or should exist, because it's been so long since they were mentioned that I believe the idea was discarded.
But based on the limited information available about them, they seem to be more secondary, the sisters possess a much better performance with purification magic compared to them.
But I imagine they're just knights with access to purification magic, instead of ordinary weapons (wich sounds cool asf)
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also, just wanted to point out how weird it is that in the ending of the first game we see the otherworlder just kind of fade away from existance, which can be interpreted as turning invisible and not the actual death. Maybe, arcezon and kessaria are actually the same location or the otherworlder just moved from kessaria.
It doesn't make sense why he decided to let rabiane go even though he was never defeated if my theory is correct. This wouldn't make much sense because it's pretty clear he needs mothers and pretty much captures rabiane with no chance of escape in the Priest's nightmare.
WAIT THE DOPPELGANGER!!!! THE ONE FROM THE LABORATORY, RABIANE FROM THE ENDING COULD BE THE COPY!!!!!!!!!!! Fuck that'd make a lot of sense, but i actually do agree with Reiber that we're digging too deep and not much was intended
It doesn't make sense why he decided to let rabiane go even though he was never defeated if my theory is correct. This wouldn't make much sense because it's pretty clear he needs mothers and pretty much captures rabiane with no chance of escape in the Priest's nightmare.
WAIT THE DOPPELGANGER!!!! THE ONE FROM THE LABORATORY, RABIANE FROM THE ENDING COULD BE THE COPY!!!!!!!!!!! Fuck that'd make a lot of sense, but i actually do agree with Reiber that we're digging too deep and not much was intended
According to the second game, Otherworlders cannot be killed; only banished back to their own dimension. Hanya explains this inside the Cathedral when Lilia is gathering the ingredients for the cocaine special white powder recipe. Rabiane didn't have access to cocaine white powder to reveal the true form of the Otherworlder/Incubus/Observer, or an assistant nun to cast the banishment spell, but when the Otherworlder dragged her into the alternate world (Priest's Nightmare), she was able to fight its true form without being forcefully transformed, and killed it. Before the DLC, the first game implies Rabiane defeated the Otherworlder of Kessaria and sent it back to its dimension, and Rabiane stands outside the Cathedral.
As for the doppleganger, it really depends on your interpretation before more information is released by Nennai. You have to beat Priest's Nightmare to unlock the pig farm and the laboratory DLCs, and then you can replay the entire adventure in the order you want. So, you can beat the King of Pigs and the Doppleganger before going to the Cathedral, or you can continue as before and assume Rabiane was either trapped inside an alternate dimension (Silent Hill style) or she simply left as shown in the ending.
In this section, you are free to make up your headcanon, even an ending where Rabiane was turned into a breeder after losing to the King of Pigs.
As for the doppleganger, it really depends on your interpretation before more information is released by Nennai. You have to beat Priest's Nightmare to unlock the pig farm and the laboratory DLCs, and then you can replay the entire adventure in the order you want. So, you can beat the King of Pigs and the Doppleganger before going to the Cathedral, or you can continue as before and assume Rabiane was either trapped inside an alternate dimension (Silent Hill style) or she simply left as shown in the ending.
In this section, you are free to make up your headcanon, even an ending where Rabiane was turned into a breeder after losing to the King of Pigs.