So Futa is the Future??

[tanstaafl]

I don't see them as "kinks' ...That suggests niche interests. I guess i'm just posing the question to the majority of males who are mostly hetero. As animation gets more real life like.... Why watch a hairy rippled male smash chicks when you could have a hot chick smash chicks? lol.

For the same reason that the uncanny valley exists.

 

[Tokenugget]

The future isn't going to go the route that people think it's going to. There will be a resurgence of "normal" and "vanilla" within the next generation. All the futa non-sense, gay, bi, try (as in try anything) is going to fade back into the shadows as more and more people clue in and in some cases, grow up.

As a pornographer this is bad for business, but as a woman with a good moral compass it can't happen soon enough.

Let the insults fly, I have no fucks to give about you.

Not sure why insults would "fly" lol.... But your basically talking biblical at this point.

 

[Rafster]

All the futa non-sense, gay, bi, try (as in try anything) is going to fade back into the shadows

Yeah...better get comfortable waiting, because you'll have to wait for a long time my dear.

 

[MuninKai]

I'm just here for the ahistoricity of this take. When I started browsing /d/ back in 2005 futa was a supermajority of /d/ content. Futa isn't the future, futa is the present and a kind of continuous desire predating internet pornography. It has never been restricted or popularised by the quality of futa content.

After 3 minutes philosophizing on the subject I believe I've developed a groundbreaking postulation which aims to lay the groundwork for all possible answers to the futa question.

It places each pornographic content viewer somewhere on what I've dubbed the Attention-Perspective-Pornographic-Continuum:

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On the X-axis is perspective. Do you assume the role of a pure witness to the action (voyeur) or do you use your imagination to assume the role of a participant (self-insertion)?

On the Y-axis is attention. What are you looking at? The person being fucked (fuckee) or the one doing the fucking (fucker)?

In typical, heterosexual porn, I hypothesize that our attention is predominantly on the female (fuckee) and that most (?) viewers assume the perspective/role of the fucker (self-insertion).

The point of futa/shemale porn seems to emphasize the futa/shemale (the fucker?) as the point of interest, although it isn't necessarily clear whether the viewer assumes the role of a 3rd party witness to the fucking or imagines themselves as part of it. As I don't watch futa or shemale porn, I can only guess that such viewers would find themselves on the lower-left quadrant. That is, attention on the fucker, assuming the role of voyeur.

Thank you for coming to my TED talk.

The pornographic axis is pretty interesting, your conclusion of where futa fits is not particularly accurate. It ignores where futa is used as a standin for a masculine penetrator with two female subjects. I'm thinking here of the use of futa in Ressentiment or Tsukinomizu games: where focus is on either fucker or fucked, but a cock is used either to simply add variety, or as a way to introduce a heterosexual penetrator/penetrated sexual interaction where it is not accessible. Especially in impregnation focused content, strap-ons or dildos simply do not adequately express the desired pornographic scene. Futas can also be largely out of scene, providing a way for a typically masculine rape fantasy to proceed with two female characters (again especially where impregnation or corruption is a focus), thinking here of mille-feuille games, though also Warabimochi's doujins, as I wait for a translation to cook. Futa in either of these largely just widens the possibilities for what sexual scene can be depicted.

It also ignores what I suspect drives a lot of futa which is either gender/sexual dysphoria or a desire for esoteric experiences that you physically cannot experience. Either of these would place the viewer on the self-insertion side of the chart, though retain a focus on the fucker.

Then there is heterosexual men with homophobia in a very literal sense as in fear of other men, which allows for futa content to enter the voyeur-fucked quadrant. Futas provide a kind of psychological out for this homophobia. It allows for viewing a heterosexual experience without actually involving men. Similarly for the extremely homophobic man to be a voyeur of the fucker without acknowledging that he is being a voyeur of a man and deriving sexual pleasure from this experience.

Then just that it also ignores how women might interact with futa content, especially as self-insert/esotericism.

The axis is useful, but not for quantifying futa, which at this point is a large enough genre and experience that it finds expression across any possible quadratic system. All we can reliably say is that degens gonna degen.

 

[Icarus Media]

Speaking hypothetically considering the progress in things like The Human Genome project, DNA and RNA understanding and the genetic code (I think it's comprised of combinations of 4 different letters? Correct me if I'm wrong) how possible would it be, especially as Hermaphrodites are born (rarely) even now in real life, to biologically modify existing or create anew so that they existed in real life but with full functionality?*

* As far as I'm aware there are problems in natural herms currently in terms of reproduction, i.e. problems with infertility or none full development of 1 or both of the organs involved.

 

[_tewi]

Everyone with taste?

But this topic does bring up an interesting debate:
Are futa male or female?

I say male.
Because in my mind the moment it has a dick its male.
Male body parts always overwritte female body parts.

They're generally portrayed as real women who just so happen to have a dick, either permanently or through the ability to procure one. Basically they have all of the markers of an actual biological female (natural hips, tits, womb, etc.) but with a dick. Incidentally, trans have none of those markers, and a dick.

 

[Ratrio]

I don't see them as "kinks' ...That suggests niche interests. I guess i'm just posing the question to the majority of males who are mostly hetero. As animation gets more real life like.... Why watch a hairy rippled male smash chicks when you could have a hot chick smash chicks? lol.

I can't see chicks with dicks as anything but weird and not to be rude but personally disgusting.

 

[MLocke]

I beg to differ. First, my post relies on revealing a major plot twist of a movie you should really watch beforehand to get the full experience, but I will just hide the title so I can still make my point without beating around the bush. If you know the plot of Uncanny (2015), you have an ideal example of what it would be like to be the voyeur and gamemaster of a sex scene played out in real life, which has the best graphics known to man naturally. I don't know what to make of the perspective and motivations of the human female. However, I feel like I completely understand the dynamics between the human male and his robotic avatar, which was mistaken for a human male. He could have made his avatar more androgynous, but I don't think it would serve much of a purpose. His avatar serves as a representation of himself or how he chose to be perceived by the world. Of course, when you realize he weaponized his creation when he "armed" it with his own DNA like the extension or essence of his manhood, it's such a game changer that is so bizarre, you realize it's actually next level. In any case, I am surprised the movie was made because it's vividly depicting porn games in real life, and that's so far removed from what the existing technology we are comfortable with on this forum.

 

[Omae wa shinda]

Futanari is the future.

 

[Fzeren]

I can't see chicks with dicks as anything but weird and not to be rude but personally disgusting.

So a dick is gross, but a baby escape hatch disguised as a bleeding axe wound isn't?

 

[tanstaafl]

Disclaimer: As I said earlier, I have no issue with futa and a few instances I actually find sexy (example: Family Rules video series is pretty damn hot).

So a dick is gross, but a baby escape hatch disguised as a bleeding axe wound isn't?

Not at all, I can't speak for Ratrio, but dicks are not gross, but a chick with a dick in terms of futa can be off putting to some people. I'm not talking about trans btw, I'm talking about futa, which is not someone in transition or who has transitioned, but a fictional construct. It's the same thing as the uncanny valley as I mentioned earlier. It has nothing to do with sexual preference in this case, but a normal reaction to things that may just seem "off".

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if you don't know what Uncanny Valley is.

On top of that, futa portrayals are usually ridiculous.

I'd just prefer that this be treated like any other kink (and it is a kink, despite how you personally feel). Predicting that futa will take over all of 3d video and game is dumb. Trying to imply that people liking or not liking it are wrong is dumb. etc.

 

[Fzeren]

I'd just prefer that this be treated like any other kink (and it is a kink, despite how you personally feel).

Terms like 'kink' and 'fetish' are so loaded, the implication being that they are in some way 'less legitimate' than 'normal' sexual interests, such as wanting to infest a womans abdomen with an alien-looking parasite.

On top of that, futa portrayals are usually ridiculous.

Yeah, the lack of balls and the presence of ladybits is just dissatisfying.

 

[Deleted member 440241]

We can dream, but no it probably isn't.

 

[Deleted member 229118]

They're generally portrayed as real women who just so happen to have a dick, either permanently or through the ability to procure one. Basically they have all of the markers of an actual biological female (natural hips, tits, womb, etc.) but with a dick. Incidentally, trans have none of those markers, and a dick.

True.
Doesnt change my viewpoint tho.

 

[Creiz]

Speaking hypothetically considering the progress in things like The Human Genome project, DNA and RNA understanding and the genetic code

You know? I've actually been thinking about this. If we can understand and create a perfect human... Why choose the male form?

The female form is beautiful. Add to that the bone density and muscle strength of males, give them a dick and you just solved every single "gender" problem.

Honestly? If you're telling me I can look 100% like an absolute bombastic woman, all the features 100% feminine, but I get to keep my physical strength and my dick? I would be crazy to refuse.

Now I'm perfectly comfortable in my male body. I'm a goddamn papi, I can pull bitches and I'm as happy as can be. Still? If the choice was available? I'd take it. No hesitation. You literally get the best of both worlds and half the cons.

 

[papel]

Nah man, the future is

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[Lykanz]

If she doesn't have a surgically attached horse cock, she can GTFO.

 

[おい！]

I think there's no denying it at this point, As animation gets better and better.... Who doesn't want a perfect 10, double D chick with a 12" shlong railing a chick. It's better than a dude with a 12" shlong railing a chick. lol.

Discuss.

 

[Ratrio]

So a dick is gross, but a baby escape hatch disguised as a bleeding axe wound isn't?

I mostly agree with what Tanstaafl said, I don't find dicks in general disgusting but I find chicks who have dicks weird yeah. I think it probably is an uncanney valley thing because a lot of the time it's already established characters that then just have a dick added to them.

 

[tanstaafl]

Terms like 'kink' and 'fetish' are so loaded, the implication being that they are in some way 'less legitimate' than 'normal' sexual interests, such as wanting to infest a womans abdomen with an alien-looking parasite.

Kink just means a sexual preference outside of what society would consider normal, there's nothing about legitimacy in there. If you interpret it that way that's your own issue.