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Avenger's the only one working on it now and guess whoever is doing the English translations on their end. So might be awhile.
By now I've hoped he would invite someone to help him develop both games... but for some reason he doesn't want to (doesn't want to maybe share some money with the other dev?).
 
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By now I've hoped he would invite someone to help him develop both games... but for some reason he doesn't want to (doesn't want to maybe share some money with the other dev?).
Not sure what the deal is there yet but looks like his Patreon is gone now. Due to it being blocked in Russia now I think, so don't know where he's getting income from.
 

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Well yeah.... Paypal and Yandex are one time payments so no constant new releases --- no cash.... Patreon was a constant cash-flow and milking like for many other devs here.... Not saying all but many....
I hope he won't switch to a cash-milking online-only "free to play but if you wanna have a WT or cheat then pay extra" scheme like e.g. Vortex C, the dev behind Last M.....
 

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He actually used it as a (sort of) subscription. You'd pay a set amount -around $2.5- for 3 releases. It involved lots of manual tracking but it worked. Probably will go back to it?

Patreon surely made it easier for him to get support, and for others to support him, but I don't think he became rich. His highest earnings were ~$500/month split in 2 or 3.
That's assuming he paid the other guy that helped him develop the games and the translator, and I find it unlikely they were doing it totally for free.

Edit: Going back to Paypal is indeed his plan
 

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Edit: Going back to Paypal is indeed his plan
Mhmm 4-5 dollars for 3 updates sounds reasonable.... however I have found one inconsistency already >
" Answer: You would get 3 updates of game (I make about 1 update per month). "
No, you don't.... We were waiting for 0.29 forever (4 Months? 5 ?) and the same is now for 0.30 (waiting since.... start of the year, 6+ Months and counting?).
This is IMHO a BIG problem why he is not receiving the proper attention from english speaking ppl :
---- lack of proper english translation (thank god we have our dedicated forum members that do some releases, manual translation corrections from machine etc.) and I have yet to see his "improved" translation from the very rough machine one...
---- lack of constant updates -- if you (dev) already promised 1 update per month, where BK and SoB are your two games... Means you have obliged yourself to release a new version of each game every second month.... even back then, when the other dev was still on board the updates came rather in 2,5 - 3 month cycles...
Overpromising and underdelivering is a big no-no for some EU cultures... "fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me".
 

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That's quite true, he never managed to stick to monthly releases between BK and SoB (and if he did, it was for a brief period of time).

For me personally, it's a bit less of an issue since you're effectively paying on a per-release schedule instead of per-month. Someone who pays $5 will still get 3 updates eventually. Will it be monthly? Almost definitely not.
And I've been playing and translating QSP games since 2013, so I'm quite accustomed to the garbled mess that MTs are.

But yeah, those things might drive away potential supporters, which is a shame since the game is great and has tons of content.
 

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But yeah, those things might drive away potential supporters, which is a shame since the game is great and has tons of content.
fully agree on that.... and yeah.... I was willingly investing countless hours for free in this game since a lot of releases because I found it great with a lot of potential.... basically this was one of the games where I have learned on how to work with QSP Format, fixing bugs etc.
Pity this receives a lot less attention compared to some other devs... But the commitment is a big issue here and lack of "stable" release frequency might have a negative impact too.
 
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Well yeah.... Paypal and Yandex are one time payments so no constant new releases --- no cash.... Patreon was a constant cash-flow and milking like for many other devs here.... Not saying all but many....
I hope he won't switch to a cash-milking online-only "free to play but if you wanna have a WT or cheat then pay extra" scheme like e.g. Vortex C, the dev behind Last M.....
Funny thing is that he used to have much more consistent schedule before when it was just paypal and yandex, 2 or 3 years ago, sometimes you could get updates to both SoB and BK in same month.
Sometimes he was late, but usually week or two.
 

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last statement from Avenger is end of June
Huh ? it is not end of June yet and I neither seeing any new statement from him. Last one was in May....
Or you meant that he will give a statement end of June?
 
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