[Stable Diffusion] Prompt Sharing and Learning Thread

felldude

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Hello everyone i’d like to make similar arts like a guy on twitter Philon (Philonai95). So can someone please make similar of his works and share information about prompts/lora/tools you used to achieve it. Nothing on civitai looks the same. Known information: Forge, pony xl v6, concept art twilight.
Based off of the distortion in the signature I would guess that is a post effect, it looks like a wave distortion and some kind of guassian blur
 

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Based off of the distortion in the signature I would guess that is a post effect, it looks like a wave distortion and some kind of guassian blur
It could be matte painting made in photoshop since it’s mentioned on his twitter. I’m also curious about perfect hands, eyes, feet he makes in his works, is it adetailer or something else
 

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It could be matte painting made in photoshop since it’s mentioned on his twitter. I’m also curious about perfect hands, eyes, feet he makes in his works, is it adetailer or something else
A 3D sourced image you can blend elements together, AI does hair, 3D does hands and feet as well as posing.
 
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Jimwalrus

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Quick FYI.
In case you were unaware, is a list of all characters pre-baked into the Pony Checkpoint (and thus all of its derivatives) - no LoRA required.

Some very interesting ones for us fans of the DCAU.
The built-in Poison Ivy looks pretty good:
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Sharinel

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Quick FYI.
In case you were unaware, is a list of all characters pre-baked into the Pony Checkpoint (and thus all of its derivatives) - no LoRA required.

Some very interesting ones for us fans of the DCAU.
The built-in Poison Ivy looks pretty good:
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Yeah inbuilt pony characters are quite good. Here's a few I did with fennfoto realistic pony checkpoint just with pre-baked stuff
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Also I'm sure you all use wildcards, so here's a couple I got from a Pony discord server showing what you can produce
 

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Yeah inbuilt pony characters are quite good. Here's a few I did with fennfoto realistic pony checkpoint just with pre-baked stuff
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Also I'm sure you all use wildcards, so here's a couple I got from a Pony discord server showing what you can produce
The anime list is long also.

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This young lady is starting to annoy me now!

She's frustratingly close to perfect. Unfortunately, I get the teeth right and the hands go wonky, I get the hands right(ish) and the nipples get black spots. I've probably got too many steps, too many prompts, gawd knows what else.

Any advice (other than telling me to use CUI! ;))?
N.B. I'd like to keep the same Checkpoint if possible to retain her look. I also want a Pony-derived one so I can more easily have her do naughty shit later!

Here are three consecutive seeds, I hope you can see why I want to get her 'just right'...

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Metia_99

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Hey, im not sure if asking questions over here is the right way to do so.

I was wondering for a while now, since im planning on making a short/light hearted game. Always wanted to create one but never had any experience in art.

Now here comes AI, i've been using SDXL for quite sometime now. Been experimenting with ComfyUI and the results were 10/10.

The problem is, i dont know how to get consistent characters (at least consistent faces ~80% similarity). Is Lora really the way to go ? or should i just use Pony checkpoints and use characters that are available there. Would be nice if i can create my own character and then train them because i've fallen in love with Dalcefo's models (i've attached one of his old models based on sd1.5)


Also, i've been using cloud GPU all this while (24gb vram. L4)

Basically, is there any way to get consistent characters with at least 80% similarity.
 

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Basically, is there any way to get consistent characters with at least 80% similarity.
Lora definitely works, but there're lots of nuances. Your question sounds a bit like "Basically, is there any way to make a porn game with programming with at least 80% success?"
 
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Metia_99

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Lora definitely works, but there're lots of nuances. Your question sounds a bit like "Basically, is there any way to make a porn game with programming with at least 80% success?"
Well, i guess the answer is Lora huh. Looks like i have to really look into loras. Dont get me wrong, this game is solely a hobby/side project because i think its a good way to find like minded people and maybe make a new community from it :)
 
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crnisl

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Looks like i have to really look into loras.
One of the tricks, for example, is using Adetailer (whatever there're alternatives for comfyui) and impainting/detailing the face with your lora, while the other image is generated without this face lora.
Another trick is making several loras (separately for the same character and for his/her clothes, etc) for several sdxl and sd1.5 models, and using even more complicated pipe in comfy, etc.

It's just you can start looking into lora, and abandon your wish to make any game, because you'll be too busy with generating images. Happens too often...
I actually like your idea of making a game with the oil paintings of elven maidens, meanwhile.
 
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felldude

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Well, i guess the answer is Lora huh. Looks like i have to really look into loras. Dont get me wrong, this game is solely a hobby/side project because i think its a good way to find like minded people and maybe make a new community from it :)
Lora if your trying to make a "new" character is an option.
Another is to blend celebrity's but that would be less consistent. [celeb A: celeb B: 0.5]

Art style is another thing, if you want consistency their.

Just keep in mind even a short VN would have few hundred images.

With Pony I chose a very well trained character (Korra) and I have been working on and off with that for awhile.
Its little things like a tan line being slightly off or a tongue merging into a penis.
Fixing things like that can take a few minutes per image over 100's of images adds up.
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Jimwalrus

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Lora if your trying to make a "new" character is an option.
Another is to blend celebrity's but that would be less consistent. [celeb A: celeb B: 0.5]

Art style is another thing, if you want consistency their.

Just keep in mind even a short VN would have few hundred images.

With Pony I chose a very well trained character (Korra) and I have been working on and off with that for awhile.
Its little things like a tan line being slightly off or a tongue merging into a penis.
Fixing things like that can take a few minutes per image over 100's of images adds up.
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Another suggestion, assuming you don't want an existing character, is to just put a name in the prompts. Not a real person, just a name that would be plausible for the character.
I can't post any examples as I'm away from my PC atm, but I wanted to create a consistent face for an AI supermodel.
So I just used 'Helena Rutakis' in the prompt, among everything else, as if it were a celebrity name or an Embedding. The results were pretty consistent - but bear in mind this is across just a single checkpoint. Change the checkpoint and you'll get a new face (albeit just as self-consistent).
 
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felldude

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Adapt-Lion + Full FP8

For anyone that does training I have found that I can run a full FP8 training using adapt-Lion on XL and PONY

Consider I only have an 8GB card so this is pretty impressive.
Its running 3-5x faster then Adam8bit

I think it would be possible for a 24GB Card user to Dreambooth or Full Finetune if they ever do the scripting for FP8

I am not using Deepspeed or Dynamo the only thing I have custom is a build of 12.5 Cuda with CudNN + CuBlas
The CuBlass might just be taking up 1GB of extra VRAM honestly
 

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The new Flux model is out and is very impressive. Unfortunately needs 12+ gig of vram to work (although some claims that it runs on 8gig). It's alreaady working in comfyui, not sure about auto1111

Examples -
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hkennereth

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Anyone wanting to play around with this model but lacking in hardware requirements, there is a free website using its API that you can create images. Only needs a google account for login.