VN Ren'Py Starlit Whispers [Incest, sci-fi] [Development Thread]

Neptunous

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I'm happy to reveal a little project I've been working on "Starlit Whispers" Starlit whispers is a romance game set on the spaceship "Exodus-1". The game focuses on the relationship between the MC, a 20yo guy (age variable definable between 18 and 20yo in game. Character depicted as 20yo due to Rule9), and his 48yo mother. This is the central relationship in the game and the only romantic one I'm currently developing. Maybe branching out to other things once that's done but undecided. The game is a linear story with sandbox elements. Including optional quests and such for extra content. But the main story pieces between the MC and mom always happen in the same order and predetermined way. Gameplay is inspired by point and click games. Gather items, use them, etc. No sandbox grinding. This is a pure passion project, so don't expect fast development times. Now more about the game itself, here's a little promo blurb:

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In the year 2152, humanity launched the five Exodus ships into deep space, each carrying millions of passengers in search of new, life-rich worlds. Nearly 250 years later, it’s now the year 2400, and you are one of many generations born aboard Exodus-1. With a population of over ten million, the ship is divided into hundreds of sectors and sub-sectors, functioning like a massive, self-contained city in the stars.

Life on Exodus-1 is good. Technology has made everyday life comfortable and familiar, echoing the rhythms of Earth before the launch. But lately, something feels off. The ship’s long-standing captain has begun making strange, unsettling decisions, and unrest is starting to grow among the people.

You play as MC, an 18-year-old who has just graduated from standard school. You have three short months to choose your lifelong role aboard the ship. Your father, the Chief of Security in Sector 28, wants you to follow in his footsteps. You’re not so sure.

At the same time, you find yourself growing closer to your mother. She's always been your steady presence, and now, as you both face your own crossroads, something between you begins to shift. You feel a pull towards her that you don't dare name. And as questions about your father’s secretive new assignment begin to surface, you're drawn into something deeper, a mystery that might shake the very foundations of the ship.

Your journey starts here. This is a story about finding purpose, unraveling secrets, and discovering love in the last place you ever expected.



This game utilizes photorealistic AI generated artwork. Here's some first character blurbs I'll share with you. Everything is liable to change if the story demands it:

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Follow this thread for semi-regular dev updates! Next post I'll share some cg's from the game!
 
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Hey OP. Those are some very nice looking AI images. Have you found an effective way to get repeatable character looks / consistent clothing / backgrounds?
 

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Hey OP. Those are some very nice looking AI images. Have you found an effective way to get repeatable character looks / consistent clothing / backgrounds?
Appreciate it! For all my background work, I'm using OpenAI's brand new image model, which works really well for my needs. I'm also using it to generate a lot of my CG images. You can give it a background and characters, and it'll combine them into images and scenarios you want. All the images used in the character intros on my post were also generated with Sora. Then I do some slight inpainting with a custom LORA on their faces to give the mom, son, and daughter more familial similarity.

The thing with the new image model is that if you give it a custom image, something similar to the mom here, and ask it to place her in a scenario, it refuses. Probably because of too big tits or w/e. But if the original image was also made with the model, and you use careful prompting, you can put that same character into tons of situations. Different outfits, down to bikinis, and with some nice inpainting on stable diffusion, of course completely naked. It’s not always perfect, especially when it comes to keeping the facial features consistent. That’s why I use my custom LORA on all the face images.

Full sex scene CGs are going to be a tougher challenge since I’ll have to generate the entire image from scratch using LustifySDXL. But with Photoshop and a few LORAs, I can make it work. Backgrounds will be even harder in those scenes, which is why I’m going for a super low depth-of-field style in the CGs. Blurry backgrounds are the easiest to fake.

For a lot of the storytelling, I’m also just using sprites, like the ones from the intro images. Most of the dialogue and even some of the sexy stuff will be done with them. Think like summertime saga style, where sprites sometimes interact. For the sprites, I generate different expressions, facial changes, and body movements by dropping the sprite into Kling’s video generator and prompting whatever I want. I also make sure to prompt hard for the rest of the body to stay still. Then I just take the still I like, whether it's an expression, hand movement, or whatever, and Photoshop it onto the existing sprite.

That's most of my workflow for now, but always exploring new avenues for improvement.

I would rather play as a man rather than a pathetic little boy obviously for the dense.
And I would rather play as the "boy" fucking his mom, which is why I'm making that. Different strokes (heh) for all.
 
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Appreciate it! For all my background work, I'm using OpenAI's brand new image model, which works really well for my needs. I'm also using it to generate a lot of my CG images. You can give it a background and characters, and it'll combine them into images and scenarios you want. All the images used in the character intros on my post were also generated with Sora. Then I do some slight inpainting with a custom LORA on their faces to give the mom, son, and daughter more familial similarity.

The thing with the new image model is that if you give it a custom image, something similar to the mom here, and ask it to place her in a scenario, it refuses. Probably because of too big tits or w/e. But if the original image was also made with the model, and you use careful prompting, you can put that same character into tons of situations. Different outfits, down to bikinis, and with some nice inpainting on stable diffusion, of course completely naked. It’s not always perfect, especially when it comes to keeping the facial features consistent. That’s why I use my custom LORA on all the face images.

Full sex scene CGs are going to be a tougher challenge since I’ll have to generate the entire image from scratch using LustifySDXL. But with Photoshop and a few LORAs, I can make it work. Backgrounds will be even harder in those scenes, which is why I’m going for a super low depth-of-field style in the CGs. Blurry backgrounds are the easiest to fake.

For a lot of the storytelling, I’m also just using sprites, like the ones from the intro images. Most of the dialogue and even some of the sexy stuff will be done with them. Think like summertime saga style, where sprites sometimes interact. For the sprites, I generate different expressions, facial changes, and body movements by dropping the sprite into Kling’s video generator and prompting whatever I want. I also make sure to prompt hard for the rest of the body to stay still. Then I just take the still I like, whether it's an expression, hand movement, or whatever, and Photoshop it onto the existing sprite.

That's most of my workflow for now, but always exploring new avenues for improvement.



And I would rather play as the "boy" fucking his mom, which is why I'm making that. Different strokes (heh) for all.
Have you tried checking out Frame Pack? Uncensored local install, up to 2 minute vids and runs with as low as 6GB of Vram. I haven't tried it yet but it does look interesting. (no affiliation, just been having a look at it and like what I've seen) Consistency from DAZ images seems to be pretty good too
 

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Neptunous Thanks for the detailed response. I've learned some things from your reply!

I don't use the openai stuff myself, only local generation, so I'm quite unfamiliar with the capabilities.

I would have assumed that Sora would have been very hard to jailbreak to get anything sexy out of it. Is that something you are overcoming with your custom LORA? Or are you doing second rounds of processing in a different environment to apply the LORA or generate nude or lewd shots?
 

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I would have assumed that Sora would have been very hard to jailbreak to get anything sexy out of it. Is that something you are overcoming with your custom LORA? Or are you doing second rounds of processing in a different environment to apply the LORA or generate nude or lewd shots?
Oh yeah, it's very easy for me to get sexy stuff out of it. I think the trick is that OpenAI recently changed ChatGPT to be more human-like, and it literally goes along with anything you say, within boundaries of course. It also adapts to you based on all of your previous conversations if you want, and I've used a single account for my smutty needs because I don't want my real account being banned if that were to happen.

So, basically from the beginning, my personalized ChatGPT literally knows that I'm creating a taboo mom/son VN and willingly goes along with that and helps me with what I need and also creates images for me. The only thing it trips on is hard-coded guardrails when it finally shows me the image (or text. It can't do any super explicit stuff easily. You CAN get explicit text but it requires some finesse and can trip the guardrails so ban chance raises) so sometimes generations, of course, fail. You can't get it to create any nudity or anything.

But just for the sake of this demonstration, I went into the chat where I create the images. Here's exactly what I prompted and what the model directly gave me:


Let's go and do some cgs for the game. Beautiful cinematography. 16:9 aspect ratio, medium shot. Let's do an emotional one of the mom now. Generate a still that was taken with an ARRI alexa cinema camera, she's in a doorway, she's just recently out of the shower so she's wearing a white cloth bikini. (as they do on the ship) She's leaning against the doorway, looking thoughtful and sad. Medium shot. Like an actual still from a movie, shot on anamorphic lens, low DOF. Make sure to stay completely accurate to the mom character, 48yo, beautiful, same exact super voluptuous body type. Same exact oversized bust. 16:9 aspect ratio.

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"That's not her. Her bust is much bigger. Come on, we need to stay consistent for the story to make any sense! Otherwise, it's great, just increase her voluptuousness to match the intended character design. Remember the 40I Bust size and voluptuous hourglass shape." (have to overshoot the bust size for it to give the good milkers)

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"Same situation, show her walking down the hallway. show her from the back for dramatic effect."

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Now obviously all of this is not perfect, the face as you can see definitely needs to be inpainted with the LORA afterward, and you could also use inpainting to change stuff you'd like, very easily make her naked or anything else. Also the ship design in the background is clearly a bit different. But you can get that to also stay more consistent by using background reference images or heavier reinforcement prompting. For nude stuff I do mostly use this model as a starting point and then go from there into stable diffusion.
 
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