Others Strive: Conquest [v0.10.3] [Maverik]

[VithiaVale]

To make the game even less fun. Fun is badwrong

Unfortunately, I think a lot of things have been done that way. I tried to play this game again recently, and it's just not fun anymore. Not every single thing that has changed has been bad, but there are a lot more bad than good. It used to be so much fun, and I would play for days, and when I got to the end, I didn't want to change anything about how it worked. I was just waiting for new content. But now, the way the classes work, training slaves, interacting with characters only once per week (Which isn't new. It's always been that way, but it's a terrible mechanic in my opinion, that doesn't make sense.). All the joy has been sucked out of this game, and I no longer have any interest in playing. Sad.

 

[Evangelion-01]

Unfortunately, I think a lot of things have been done that way. I tried to play this game again recently, and it's just not fun anymore. Not every single thing that has changed has been bad, but there are a lot more bad than good. It used to be so much fun, and I would play for days, and when I got to the end, I didn't want to change anything about how it worked. I was just waiting for new content. But now, the way the classes work, training slaves, interacting with characters only once per week (Which isn't new. It's always been that way, but it's a terrible mechanic in my opinion, that doesn't make sense.). All the joy has been sucked out of this game, and I no longer have any interest in playing. Sad.

You can interact far more often with people, the ammount of interactions is limited by MC Charm focus... or Sexual if you are reffering to the actual sex (with a Bonus from room Upgrades)

 

[mrttao]

You can interact far more often with people, the ammount of interactions is limited by MC Charm focus... or Sexual if you are reffering to the actual sex (with a Bonus from room Upgrades)

Charm stat gives you more interactions. but they still only recharge once a week
which is what he meant.

also, you start out with 5 slave slots and the interaction limit is total. So if you have 4 interactions that recharge once a week, that means 1 interaction per slave per week for 4 slaves with the 5th one not even being interacted with that week.

also the interactions are not the same. those 4 interactions are 2 dates and 2 sex
although a date can lead to sex. but sex can't lead to a date

 

[hyfka]

Why not, I guess. Selling for half is pretty standard in gaming, and being able to just empty the shop daily knowing you can easily convert your hoard back to its full original equivalent in cash at any time is a little cheaty since you sacrifice nothing and you're not making any sort of choice between real alternatives. Selling for half creates incentive to only buy stuff you actually need and plan to use, and puts some pressure against "I'll just buy literally everything because it doesn't matter at all, allowing me to have a thousand of everything to instantly fill any need that ever pops up or just dump it for full cash again to instantly fill any need for extra cash."

It's literally a huge nerf to gathering professions without compensation.
If buying without consequence was the percieved problem, the solution is to increase buy prices while leaving sell prices as they are. This just fucks over so much balance wise.

 

[thesouthernray]

I cna't access Millford, is that as far as the game is atm?

 

[0nymous]

Not in the same game, you can have a different one in each game you have.

That's completely beyond the point. I want the same characters to have multiple images bound to them, like, for example, different outfit versions, including naked versions. I can't believe this wasn't still implemented after it was missing in the prequel.

 

[Evangelion-01]

Charm stat gives you more interactions. but they still only recharge once a week
which is what he meant.

That's not what he said though

interacting with characters only once per week

also, you start out with 5 slave slots and the interaction limit is total. So if you have 4 interactions that recharge once a week, that means 1 interaction per slave per week for 4 slaves with the 5th one not even being interacted with that week.

Which isn't much of a problem since you can't use most of the interaction abilities for the most part of the first week on even a single Slave

also the interactions are not the same. those 4 interactions are 2 dates and 2 sex
although a date can lead to sex. but sex can't lead to a date

Max Charm allows 4 Date interactions and Max Sex allows for 4 Sex interactions +2 from master room Upgrade

 

[BodaciousBoar]

(I wouldn't do so for unique slaves though)

I experimented with that in 0.6.4b and in that version when I've done this to uniques they tend to just revert back at the next event for them. I also tried to make Daisy full beastkin but she reverts back to half at events as well.

 

[thesouthernray]

What is this special "unknown class" i keep seeing?

 

[mrttao]

Max Charm allows 4 Date interactions and Max Sex allows for 4 Sex interactions +2 from master room Upgrade

who the hell starts the game with those two stats maxed out?

 

[Evangelion-01]

who the hell starts the game with those two stats maxed out?

Someone more interested in training slaves than combat?
If you combine your Focus points with traits you can also max them out by week 2 with dedicated playing

 

[0nymous]

who the hell starts the game with those two stats maxed out?

You may not know this, but you can upgrade your main stats stats with exp by clicking the "Upgrade" button under the classes you're available to pick.
I found out after 10 in-game weeks of gameplay.

 

[dual1020]

this is a silly thing to ask, but is there a limit to how many marriage partners? I see you can keep asking for their hand in marriage but the church option doesn't have the ceremony after marrying one character.

 

[0nymous]

Where do you get Salvia for alchemy?? I've done just about every dungon type and it doesn't drop anywhere...

 

[erkper]

Where do you get Salvia for alchemy?? I've done just about every dungon type and it doesn't drop anywhere...

It's a rare drop in the Jungle dungeons IIRC, but it also shows up in the town shops of the Elven Capital and some of the plains and forest towns.

 

[Evangelion-01]

It's a rare drop in the Jungle dungeons IIRC, but it also shows up in the town shops of the Elven Capital and some of the plains and forest towns.

pretty sure that only blue moss drops in the jungle.. but that one is even rarer than that red flower

 

[mrttao]

Someone more interested in training slaves than combat?

you start the game owing 100,000 gold and will game over if you can't payback the monthly fees
you do not have the luxury to just fuck your slaves all day long.

You may not know this, but you can upgrade your main stats stats with exp by clicking the "Upgrade" button under the classes you're available to pick.
I found out after 10 in-game weeks of gameplay.

I am aware, this is why I specifically said "start the game with".
Because I know you can eventually max out all stats.

 

[BodaciousBoar]

you start the game owing 100,000 gold and will game over if you can't payback the monthly fees
you do not have the luxury to just fuck your slaves all day long.

If you focus on or continue the main quest line the massive loan is done away with long before you would actually have to pay the main bulk of it. You really only need to earn maybe 14,000 gold tops depending on how long it takes you to get the guild rep from the notice board quests. You very much do have the luxury.

 

[erkper]

If you focus on or continue the main quest line the massive loan is done away with long before you would actually have to pay the main bulk of it. You really only need to earn maybe 14,000 gold tops depending on how long it takes you to get the guild rep from the notice board quests. You very much do have the luxury.

I've yet to play a version where you have to pay more than 4000 (first two payments) unless you're just ignoring the guild quests. Depending on the guild quests I can often finish before having to pay even the second installment (3000.)

But anyways, it's not like training the slaves and dungeon diving are exclusive. Even if you make your Master a primarily training-focused Cha/Sex build you can still assemble a strong enough combat team to beat any dungeon in the game rather handily...

 

[Evangelion-01]

you start the game owing 100,000 gold and will game over if you can't payback the monthly fees
you do not have the luxury to just fuck your slaves all day long.

I am aware, this is why I specifically said "start the game with".
Because I know you can eventually max out all stats.

Charm also raises the rewards (inclideing money) for finishing Quests for the guild and raises loyality gain (which allows to unlock combatant for you other slaves faster).
Sex grants a large ammount of Exp for starting slaves, based on the number of orgams achieved, which in turn allows unlocking more classes for them fast.