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Burningman

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I did not see any thread like what I'm looking for, I want something similar( )

A strong female lead that falls to blackmail, succumb, corruption, etc.
just need to be a female lead that is strong that mind break or something like that, doesn't need to be NTR or anything like that, but like it or not there is where we find most of the strong female lead fall.
 

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So... most of the games that follow this type of corruption are what we have called "retard in lechertown" games. Sometimes, like in the case of Katie's Corruption, or Anna's Exciting Adventure, the character is treated as if they're strong smart independent women, until they get into the blackmail situation at which point in time the character becomes a complete idiot and doesn't see a way out of the most simple blackmail scenarios.

In Anna's Exciting Adventure the blackmail is that the day you are hired, the boss finds proof that the friend who got you the job has been embezzling from the company, so if you don't do sexual favors for him and get his money back he's going to report you both to the police and have you both arrested. Now, there's nothing linking you to the crime, other than association. So he has no grounds to do this. Furthermore, how odd that he finds this the day you start. How convenient. To be completely honest, since the money is offshore, you could convince the police it was just as likely he'd been the one embezzling and had attempted to frame you and your friend to get sexual favors and more money.

Now, if you don't have a problem with stupid plot devices, there's plenty of games in this genre. However if you do, have that problem, I don't really have much for you. There are some games where strong women choose to be corrupted without blackmail being involved as well, but I assume you want it to be against their better judgement. So I don't know.
 

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It's more like a Strong willed woman fall, for example, could be a woman that is strong but because she is in a situation that fucked her up she needs to do some things slow at first like you said, I do not need to control the female lead I can be the male let me rephrase in a more strange but easier way to understand, I just want to break female strong willed not innocent or dumb ones(playing as then or not) because I'm a sadist that want to see these strong woman groveling for me...
 
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It's more like a Strong willed woman fall, for example, could be a woman that is strong but because she is in a situation that fucked her up she needs to do some things slow at first like you said, I do not need to control the female lead I can be the male let me rephrase in a more strange but easier way to understand, I just want to break female strong willed not innocent or dumb ones(playing as then or not) because I'm a sadist that want to see these strong woman groveling for me...
Well, in the case of the retard in lechertown I doubt you'll feel that way. You might enjoy Vis Major but its not far enough along yet.

Sadly I don't play many games in this particular genre though, so I can't really help. You might specify the blackmail tag in your searches, but even that can be kinda shit, since you get a lot of paper thin blackmail lines.
 
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As far as corruption and blackmail games go you don't tend to find strong women in them because they don't find themselves in that kind of situation and if they do they have the wits enough to get out of them.

They are the ones that usually do the blackmailing and corrupting.

It's usually as Sedition said, they will take it's a strong independent woman but the second a bit of dick is on the screen or someone presents them with an easily escapable blackmail path they turn into a drooling halfwit.

That's why I can't play those games, it always feels like taking advantage of someone with special needs and that's not satisfying in the slightest.

Simply put, stupid aint sexy.
 

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Well, this is why I liked the way Irina fall in makina, it was involuntary this is why it was so good even if she was strong smart she couldn't change or escape it.
 
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What about ? Sabia is a stronk independent woman of purple color who don't need no man, well, until she learns how delicious Orc dicks are. It depends on how you play her of course, she can remain "pure", but she has the perfect excuse to simply blow and fuck her way to the top, sucking and fucking every Man, Woman, Orc, Hound and Minotaur she comes across. That's how strong women "get corrupted" - they choose to do so, perhaps rationalizing all the way, but they don't get bullied into it or laughably blackmailed, they do it because it's easier and more fun.
 

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This might be what you're looking for. I'm no expert on the topic, and I haven't played this particular game, since it doesn't offer a lesbian route, but from the description it might be what you like.

Not exactly a strong protagonist, but some corruption and blackmail.
 
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KoD isn't corruption.

As much as some men don't like to hear it, women enjoy sex. She isn't corrupted, she just likes fucking.
That raises the question, what, then, constitutes corruption? If Sabia literally whoring herself out to gain power and favor isn't, then what is? Is it only corruption when it's "Bimbofication"? Sabias #1 approach to any problem seems to be "Lets suck some dicks and see if the problem goes away", so even that applies. Nobody ever said "corrupted" girls don't enjoy sex, quite to the contrary, your typical corruption game is about making a girl lose all shame - and that also applies to Sabia.

Yeah, even Sierra attested that KoD isn't about corruption, but Sabia becoming more sub or dom throughout the game.
Unless you're defining "Corruption" as something really weird that probably would not apply to any self-styled "corruption" games, Sierra is simply wrong on this one. I mean, you can prove me wrong by offering a definition of "corruption" that somehow applies to those corruption games and the concept as it's traditionally understood, but not to KoD, but I'm not gonna hold my breath over here.

Oh, and in case you're wondering, Shame/Shamelessness is what I consider to be the primary "Corruption" axis, and what traditional corruption games primarily work with, with addition to submissiveness as a second one in trainer games in particular.
 

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Unless you're defining "Corruption" as something really weird that probably would not apply to any self-styled "corruption" games, Sierra is simply wrong on this one. I mean, you can prove me wrong by offering a definition of "corruption" that somehow applies to those corruption games and the concept as it's traditionally understood, but not to KoD, but I'm not gonna hold my breath over here.
"Corruption" for me always meant something like a drastic character development.
See the popular h-rpgs. They take the corruption aproach when the female character goes from a pure hearted girl with some moral standarts to a reckless turbo slut. That ofc is corruption applied to porn filled games.

If we're talking about corruption in general, i can offer the . When Sierra mentioned corruption, it was in the context we won't see Sabia severely degraded/mindbroken by the end of the game, like in the popular h-rpgs (reason we only see that happen in bad ends). I wouldn't dare to say someone becoming more submissive or dominant is enough to call it corruption, these are small changes in the character (Sabia is still Sabia) when compared to characters losing all their moral ground and/or going full evil/slut.
 
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"Corruption" for me always meant something like a drastic character development.
See the popular h-rpgs. They take the corruption aproach when the female character goes from a pure hearted girl with some moral standarts to a reckless turbo slut. That ofc is corruption applied to porn filled games.

If we're talking about corruption in general, i can offer the . When Sierra mentioned corruption, it was in the context we won't see Sabia severely degraded/mindbroken by the end of the game, like in the popular h-rpgs (reason we only see that happen in bad ends). I wouldn't dare to say someone becoming more submissive or dominant is enough to call it corruption, these are small changes in the character (Sabia is still Sabia) when compared to characters losing all their moral ground and/or going full evil/slut.
What is your argument here? I've seen Sabia severely degraded multiple times over the course of the game. Mind breakage is not something that fits a playable character. The only argument that I can see is that Sabia arguably starts out as a reckless turbo slut, and so there is no "change" as required by the vndb definition.

Is that your argument? Sabia already starts out as a "corrupted" character and thus it isn't a corruption game because a corruption game requires the process of corruption to be the central point of the game? Because I can rebut that:

The original opening scene rape. It's now removed but it should be back in the game soon. Sabia doesn't exactly start out as a "pure hearted girl" but not one that would blow Orcs for pocket change. That opening scene rape was the point where Sabia afterwards decided "I do not have any sexual honor anymore, might as well blow Orc dicks for fun and profit", which is also why it didn't make sense to remove it, because now Sabia has no real excuse for blowing the amount of Orc dicks she potentially does. KoD WAS a game about a girl that gets raped and decides to consequently use her (impure) pussy (and throat) for her own advantage. The whole progression from blowing dudes in the relief tents for money via getting gang banged at the feast to fucking dogs for an advantage in the arena games, that is a progressive degeneration of moral standards.

To make this argument, you'd have to believe that if Sabia hadn't been captured by the Orcs and would have returned home safely, she still would have let the men gang bang her and blown dogs if it gained her some sort of advantage, because she was that big of a whore to begin with. If you agree that this is not what would have happened, then this is a corruption game as per the vndb definition.
 
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There are a good amount of games involving corruption, specially against strong woman ( after all who would want to kick someone who´s already down, that´s just cruelty, break a strong and arrogant character is far better ), look in corruption and take a look, im sure you´ll find something you´ll like.
 

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I dont mind KoD, but I guess it is a bit boring (imo) as Sabia is pretty happy to become a total whore. It kind of feels like;

Fairly average but hot chick surrounded by dumb males realises how dumb the males around her are (and that she can control them with sex), also realises she likes sex. Hmm, what to do...

Anyway a few, games I have played (I have played quite a few of this nature, I will add things as they come to me lol, also need to recall which ones I had to run machine translation from (i.e. werent translated to English)):

Note: It depends how you define "strong" really.

Arms Devicer+
Parallel Fantasy IF
Rhodes Fortress
The Moral Sword of Asagi
 
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That raises the question, what, then, constitutes corruption? If Sabia literally whoring herself out to gain power and favor isn't, then what is? Is it only corruption when it's "Bimbofication"? Sabias #1 approach to any problem seems to be "Lets suck some dicks and see if the problem goes away", so even that applies. Nobody ever said "corrupted" girls don't enjoy sex, quite to the contrary, your typical corruption game is about making a girl lose all shame - and that also applies to Sabia.

Unless you're defining "Corruption" as something really weird that probably would not apply to any self-styled "corruption" games, Sierra is simply wrong on this one. I mean, you can prove me wrong by offering a definition of "corruption" that somehow applies to those corruption games and the concept as it's traditionally understood, but not to KoD, but I'm not gonna hold my breath over here.

Oh, and in case you're wondering, Shame/Shamelessness is what I consider to be the primary "Corruption" axis, and what traditional corruption games primarily work with, with addition to submissiveness as a second one in trainer games in particular.
Defining corruption is easy, in my opinion. However the problem is that its so loosely defined as a genre. Much of what is classified as corruption is actually a Molestation/Rape game. For instance, you'll find corruption on Anna's Exciting Adventure, Elena's Life, Katie's Corruption, Road Trip, California Bound, etc. California Bound and Katie's Corruption do have just enough options to keep them from being full molestation games, but also both have paper thin premises for the blackmail or forced sexual content to occur and still include a lot of forced sex, therefore making them less about corruption and more about forced sexual encounters.

Corruption, lets look at the word:
  • the action of making someone or something morally depraved or the state of being so.
Disclaimer: I do not believe female sexuality is actually morally depraved. However for the sake of the argument of the existence of corruption we aren't looking at how we believe personally, but how A the character believes, and B the society around the character reacts. If her sexual deviancy is treated with shock, its safe to say that society believes her to be morally depraved. If she feels dirty for her actions, it's safe to say that she feels morally depraved.

Now, note, its not making someone perform actions that are morally depraved, but making that person morally depraved. And that's the kicker. In order for something to be corrupted it has to become that which you are "changing" it into. In most of the above games the MC doesn't ever actually become a slut. She doesn't ever choose to do those things. She is always forced. Katie's Corruption, if you manage to defeat the boss, even has you go back to your normal life and live for the future as if nothing ever happened. Most of them give you insight into the character's mindset and tell you explicitly that she doesn't want to be doing this. They may make her second guess herself, starting to believe the things their abuser is saying, but internalizing abuse and actually becoming corrupt aren't the same thing.

In that sense, corruption implies that the corrupted one be complicit. They have to make a choice. They have to choose to use "Morally Depraved" methods to achieve their goals. Good Girl Gone Bad, Zoe's Temptation, Chloe18, and Coceter Chronicles all fit this. Ashley, of GGGB, is all about a girl who wants to explore her sexuality, and gives her the option to do more and more depraved things in that quest. Zoe's adventure is all about how corrupt she truly is, and whether or not she is a creature of lust or the fae as a result. Chloe18, the choice is made before the game even begins, but Chloe has decided to do whatever it takes to reach her goals. Tabitha starts out pretty sexually liberated, and if you play her as such you'll find there's not much to corrupt, but with the plethora of choices to be made to solve certain problems, its safe to say that the Tabitha who chooses sex is the one who's choosing the morally depraved way of doing things.

Now, I'm not saying that either game shouldn't be made, but I am saying that the average "Retard in Lechertown" isn't a corruption game, its a molestation/rape game. The liberated sexual adventures of Ashley, Zoe, Chloe, and Tabitha are much more in line with corruption, however, if you prefer to see sexual liberation as a positive, you could also call them coming of age.

I've not played KoD, however, knowing the premise, I know that the MC seems to be a stronger character and chooses sex, however I don't know if there's an option that isn't sex to balance the scale. Without the secondary option I don't know how her situation is any less molestation than the Retard in Lechertown, however if she does have the option and still chooses sex, because she sees it as a tool and isn't ashamed to use it, then it's certainly corruption.
 

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Sabia is using the orcs to get what she wants, it's not her being "corrupted" it's her "corrupting" the orcs.

Your typical "corruption" scenario involves some bloke blackmailing some idiot women onto the end of his dick for his own personal gain.

A woman that uses sex for HER personal gain isn't corrupted, she knows what she wants and she knows how to get it. Men are moronic enough to fall for it, we've all been pussy whipped at one point or another.

The problem comes when people view sex as corruption, it isn't.
 
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I've not played KoD, however, knowing the premise, I know that the MC seems to be a stronger character and chooses sex, however I don't know if there's an option that isn't sex to balance the scale. Without the secondary option I don't know how her situation is any less molestation than the Retard in Lechertown, however if she does have the option and still chooses sex, because she sees it as a tool and isn't ashamed to use it, then it's certainly corruption.
Geez, just play the damn game instead of speculating. It's good, you'll like it, its only downside being that it isn't at version 0.99 yet.


Sabia is using the orcs to get what she wants, it's not her being "corrupted" it's her "corrupting" the orcs.

Your typical "corruption" scenario involves some bloke blackmailing some idiot women onto the end of his dick for his own personal gain.

A woman that uses sex for HER personal gain isn't corrupted, she knows what she wants and she knows how to get it. Men are moronic enough to fall for it, we've all been pussy whipped at one point or another.

The problem comes when people view sex as corruption, it isn't.
Your description is literally the opposite of what darthseduction just offered, according to him, it's not corruption if it's just about a girl getting molested / raped, and corruption is only when the girl wants to do depraved things for her personal gains.

So I suggest you get into the ring and do a Claw-Plach
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