subscribestar age verification?

[songlick]

Hi,

I am trying to register and am getting a page that asks me for government id / face scan etc. to prove that I am 23!!!! years or older. Is this normal? Somehow I just don't get any internet search results (or here) about it which is kinda weird. 23 is also an interesting number, may as well be 33 or 53.
I'm accessing the site from Germany. As far as I know we're still supposed to have a semi-free Internet for a few more months after which our activities will likely be basically fully tracked...

 

[alonehentain]

Hi,

I am trying to register and am getting a page that asks me for government id / face scan etc. to prove that I am 23!!!! years or older. Is this normal? Somehow I just don't get any internet search results (or here) about it which is kinda weird. 23 is also an interesting number, may as well be 33 or 53.
I'm accessing the site from Germany. As far as I know we're still supposed to have a semi-free Internet for a few more months after which our activities will likely be basically fully tracked...

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Well , from Germany, maybe to comply with the law , other area don’t has this so search results is little

 

[anne O'nymous]

Is this normal?

If you actually access the site from Germany and with an IP address attributed to a German ISP (so no from Germany through VPN locating me whatever, nor from whatever through VPN locating me in Germany), no, this is not normal.
EU started an experiment for its age check regulation, but Germany isn't among the 5 countries that are doing the said experiment, and the age for the EU experiment is set to 18, not to 23. Plus, the EU solution is supposed to be designed to avoid the intrusive first solution proposed to you. [

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This wile Germany isn't doing an experiment on its own, nor have it passed its own age check law, and if they did, the age wouldn't be 23.

I don't know if subescribeStar have been compromised, or if they are doing this on their own, but it's clearly fucked up.

 

[Hagatagar]

I don't know if subescribeStar have been compromised, or if they are doing this on their own, but it's clearly fucked up.

I guess they said "Fuck it" and put it on for the entire EU-zone.

 

[anne O'nymous]

I guess they said "Fuck it" and put it on for the entire EU-zone.

Well, strictly speaking the experiment do not regard none EU websites; you can't enforce a regulation that do not exist yet. It regard more the deployment of the measure used to do the age check*, the actual viability of the process, and therefore should rely on volunteer sites.
And I highly doubt that SubscribeStar volunteered for this




*: It's said that the site will not know you exact age, nor your identity. But honestly I'm too lazy to read the actual whole process, knowing that it can possibly change in the future, as result of the experiment, or because the EU commission had a bad day. I just know that a process handled by Google have been selected as method, and that another method was developed through the cooperation of some EU IT companies. I just hope that they are smart enough to understand that having more than one method shouldn't be limited to the experiment period.

 

[songlick]

I did read about the digital wallet that they promote as an advantage for us, which will ultimately I guess lead to everyone basically being tracked by real id everywhere online, I mean people can be tracked on Internet now it will just be less resource intensive to perform mass surveillance if you basically authenticate everywhere with your national id / driver licence etc. I'm not surprised that politicians see the small freedom left on Internet as something needed to be controlled. I wonder if this will lead to explosion of dark web, tor, crypto... hope so.
The promise that sites will only know age is invalid as long as a bunch of sensitive data is collected and stored, from that point it's basically a pinky promise of politicians. If the data can be abused it will, at any point any official is curious about you they'll just pull the entire history to find something objectionable.

 

[peterppp]

i dont know what's up with subscribestar. a guy from france got the same check recently. then it said the check was for 21+ even though it's 18+ in france, and using vpn didnt matter. all i know is what ss says in their

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[anne O'nymous]

The promise that sites will only know age is invalid as long as a bunch of sensitive data is collected and stored,

Except that the promise is that the site will not even know your age. And this can be done easily, in a secure way. It's not different than when you make a payment online, being sent to your bank framework that will proceed to the X step validation, then return to the online shop that the transaction is, or not, valid.
In fact, it would be even more secured than an online payment, because with them you need to enter your card number in order to the payment processor to know to what bank you need to be redirected. This while with the wallet, if done correctly, you'll be sent to the framework and only then enter you wallet ID. Therefore the site will know shit about you, except that you are, or not, above the legal age.

But, obviously, this doesn't mean that the solution isn't without pitfall. The site will know shit about you, but the authorities will be in position to know what sites you visit.
Yet, there's still a possibility to solve this issue, at least if

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still have some power and if the process starts to be used wildly enough. It suffice for the IETF to come to the creation of an organization, like the ICANN by example, that would serve as intermediary, like payment processors do for payments. All sites would query one of the servers from that organization, that would then ask for the wallet number and query your country framework to get the age check (or whatever) validation.
Then, it would still be possible to get the site name from the said organization, but only at the request of a judge.