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BruceMcGivern

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He won't work on SC anymore because of reasons Zion already explained. There's a new artist now who already did the graphical stuff for chapter 4. So we will get the first taste of change in November or December.

Hopefully it fits very nicely. I checked some of the new guys work and it looks good but how good it will look when we play the game I can't tell. I'm speaking about the moment when you still have the old artworks from Kain in your head and then you see how the characters look now with the new artist.
This gives me some bad reminisce memories from past games when the artist either left on his own, had troubles with gamemaker or simply because didn't feel like making art for the game so they have to look out for another artists which artstyle was too western or something like that :/ sooooo unfortunate kain art wont be seen no more!

super mega quick edit: and if its gonna be one of those things ´´sorry but we must remake everything from scratch so it fits the whole new art´´ then development its gonna be non-existent from this very start point so big yikes if that is the case or may be ;(
 

Zion of Olympus

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This gives me some bad reminisce memories from past games when the artist either left on his own, had troubles with gamemaker or simply because didn't feel like making art for the game so they have to look out for another artists which artstyle was too western or something like that :/ sooooo unfortunate kain art wont be seen no more!

super mega quick edit: and if its gonna be one of those things ´´sorry but we must remake everything from scratch so it fits the whole new art´´ then development its gonna be non-existent from this very start point so big yikes if that is the case or may be ;(
Subnero just posted a link to the new artist and a new succubus on the post above yours. You can take a look.

I won't go back to previous succubi, they are done, I need to move this game forward.
 

Porn_Jesus

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Subnero just posted a link to the new artist and a new succubus on the post above yours. You can take a look.

I won't go back to previous succubi, they are done, I need to move this game forward.
Doing everything again to replace stuff would be equal to painting a wall and every five minutes you spot an area where you could add a bit more color to let it look better. X3
 
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haanh

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I keep randomly encounter this bug: "Cannot read property 'setDimensions' of null", anyone know how to fix it?
 

RavioMakin

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The new artist for SC, here is a sample of one of the succubi he will be doing for the game.

Not quite the same if kain is a 10/10 this guy might be a 6... i mean he clearly knows his stuff but kain had a much more refined style and i can't stress enough how skilled he was with curves and thiccness also i don't know shit about drawings and art in general but it's clear they used two completely different style, they have nothing in common.
I might sound like a broken record but in kain case you couldn't tell where the art began and where it ended because he used a digital approach, this new guy use way too much lines and you can tell something is off, the characters will look plane and stale compared to the og art.
 

NeroZee

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Not quite the same if kain is a 10/10 this guy might be a 6... i mean he clearly knows his stuff but kain had a much more refined style and i can't stress enough how skilled he was with curves and thiccness also i don't know shit about drawings and art in general but it's clear they used two completely different style, they have nothing in common.
I might sound like a broken record but in kain case you couldn't tell where the art began and where it ended because he used a digital approach, this new guy use way too much lines and you can tell something is off, the characters will look plane and stale compared to the og art.
I am not entirely sure what you meant with some of the stuff you said as it made no sense to me, but to each their own, it's good that you found out early on that the art at least isn't for you, so you don't need to waste your time as there are plenty of other games out there, take care.
 

RavioMakin

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I am not entirely sure what you meant with some of the stuff you said as it made no sense to me, but to each their own, it's good that you found out early on that the art at least isn't for you, so you don't need to waste your time as there are plenty of other games out there, take care.
I just said Kain style was more suited to portray SC characters, never said i don't like the game, that's just my opinion, no need to be salty about it my dude, take care.
 

NeroZee

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I just said Kain style was more suited to portray SC characters, never said i don't like the game, that's just my opinion, no need to be salty about it my dude, take care.
See this is highly ironic, considering the other main reason Kain isn't working on SC anymore is because the game WASN'T to his style according to him. He wasn't too into MILF's and femdom stuff, he much rather draw younger, submissive girls as evident by his deviantart page. Zion didn't tell you guys this but i just did and he can back me up on it. Devil-V is actually the opposite to this.
Also i am not salty about your comment, just more baffled at how silly the reasoning is like "it has too many lines" literally had me bursting into a laugh when i read that. Feel free to enjoy the game still my friend, although unfortunately not as much as you used to.
 
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Zion of Olympus

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See this is highly ironic, considering the other main reason Kain isn't working on SC anymore is because the game WASN'T to his style according to him. He wasn't too into MILF's and femdom stuff, he much rather draw younger, submissive girls as evident by his deviantart page. Zion didn't tell you guys this but i just did and he can back me up on it. Devil-V is actually the opposite to this.
Also i am not salty about your comment, just more baffled at how silly the reasoning is like "it has too many lines" literally had me bursting into a laugh when i read that. Feel free to enjoy the game still my friend, although unfortunately not as much as you used to.
It's true, Kain was never into MILFs like I am or V is.

That's why our next project together is divided into 50/50 for younger looking girls and MILFs, instead of the usual 'almost 100%' MILFs from SC.
 
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While I think it's important to be critical of the media you consume, hence encouraging production of higher quality media, you must also take into the account the fact that this is not a AAA game, and it's important to give the developers breathing space. I checked the Succubus by the new artist and the art is wonderful. In my opinion Ravio is simply too used to Kain's art, because I don't see the problems they mentioned in the art, but maybe my standards are not high enough. Don't get me wrong, inspite of what I said earlier, it is equally anyone's right to rip into art they don't like, which is just how subjectivity works; the difference only acts in the merit of the critique, which is always determined by the one on the receiving end. I don't know what Ravio means by "it's not as suited to portray SC characters", because I have never known SC to have a specific artstyle, (it shouldn't be bound to one) and neither does any context inside the game supplement the Kain artstyle over Subnero's. But of course, I do not mean to belittle Ravio's critique, I just think it's not entirely unbiased, and the ad homs do break the credibility,
 

Porn_Jesus

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As I said before, we shall wait and see how the fresh wind from another artist will work with the next chapter. I hope for the same nice quality and passion that I have encountered before.

Zion of Olympus But there are no plans that you leave next and another guy takes over, right? :O
 
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Revolver1

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I'll take a look, thanks!

I have a few questions to ask, if that's alright?

1. How many total chapters do you intend on having for this game?
2. How long of a project do you intend for this to be (how long do you plan to work on this game)?
3. When will the next chapter be released?
4. Is the next update a release of a full chapter (in this case, chapter 4)?
5. How "often" will you be releasing an update/chapter?
6. For the "saves," is it possible for you to add at least 100 or more places to save instead of the general 50 you have?
7. I'm not sure if you noticed, but the "Quests" column does not really update whenever you have/completed a quest in the game, so it can be easy to forget your missions.
 
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Dreamer44

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I have a few questions to ask, if that's alright?

1. How many total chapters do you intend on having for this game?
2. How long of a project do you intend for this to be (how long do you plan to work on this game)?
3. When will the next chapter be released?
4. Is the next update a release of a full chapter (in this case, chapter 4)?
5. How "often" will you be releasing an update/chapter?
All of your questions have been answered many times before, but I'll save you looking theough previous pages.

Zion has planned a long series.

There will be five chapters per game, and four games per era, for a total of five eras. So there will be 100 chapters in total, across 20 games.

Each era is relatively self contained, so if you only find yourself interested in these ancient times, you can stop after thw fourth game.

And that's not counting side content like the Warlock Saga.

His new schedule seems to be a new chapter every 3-4 mí nths, so if nothing happens chapter four should be up by the end of the year.
 
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Porn_Jesus

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2. How long of a project do you intend for this to be (how long do you plan to work on this game)?
Maaaany years if the release schedule of 3-4 chapters for each year doesn't change.

3. When will the next chapter be released?
In November or December.

4. Is the next update a release of a full chapter (in this case, chapter 4)?
There will only be full chapter releases from now on. Zion had enough meh moments from the demo chapter 3 release.

5. How "often" will you be releasing an update/chapter?
Plans are to release a new chapter every three months.

6. For the "saves," is it possible for you to add at least 100 or more places to save instead of the general 50 you have?
Why would you need so many saves? Anyway, the save menu will be a bit different and I guess more slots can be added if necessary?^^

7. I'm not sure if you noticed, but the "Quests" column does not really update whenever you have/completed a quest in the game, so it can be easy to forget your missions.
Iirc there are changes planned for that or already on the to-do list.
 
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