RPGM Succubus Covenant Generation One: The Cursed Forest [Ch. 5] [Olympus]

[blufalcon]

My only issue with the way the story is presented is that I just do not give a single fuck about all the other hunters that aren't player-controlled and I grow to resent them because their cutscenes actively distract me (the player) from my own mission. The cutscenes that involved rabbit girl and tribe chief girl are fine because she is directly involved with what I am doing as the player-controlled character. When we cut away to other countries to watch someone walk up a hallway and talk to yet another random dude, I just kinda stop caring. I don't sense any danger or tension with those other hunters because all that happens with them is them talking or walking, or there's a scripted, non-interactable fight or stealth sequence involving a bunch of random soldiers, and it happens like 99% of the time we enter a new area. Do they even deal with succubi or are they just there to talk? Why send an Adalon hunter to go talk?

I am getting drawn into this forest, I have prepared myself to clear this forest that is filled with the plant succubus scourge, but anytime I take 20 steps I gotta watch another cutscene about some dude who I honestly don't really care about talking to some other dude in a toga or something. Then his friend comes in who is just the same picture with a different colored toga. And for every single one of these men we're introduced to, you make us watch 3 seconds of it scrolling up from their feet to their face. So all this time is adding up and taking the hype away from me clearing out this forest or cave or whatever and I am just sitting there in my cuckscene corner thinking "Where are the boobs? My feet hurt. I just wanna get some fish. How do I know about the parts I'm not there for?"

If I were to offer any kind of solution, it would be to just focus on the main character, and then later if (and this is just an assumption) somehow we all meetup again, maybe the MC can ask them about their story and we can play a little sidequest as those other people and get to see their character and motivations then.

Other than that though, I enjoy my time with the game. I like the succubus designs. I like fighting them. I like winning and losing to them. It's the main draw of the game. The focus should be on them and the player's interactions with them. Otherwise it's not really Succubus Covenant. It's Men Have Discussions Generation One: The Cursed Pacing. Like... can't I just get letters from them or something? Something I can just read and put away so I can actually play the video game?

 

[JuanM4]

there is no part one or two, warlock saga is a spinoff/prequel. and the ch.3 on the title of this thread just mean that the game is already on its 3rd chapter, 1st and 2nd chapter included.

Many thanks for the info

 

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My only issue with the way the story is presented is that I just do not give a single fuck about all the other hunters that aren't player-controlled and I grow to resent them because their cutscenes actively distract me (the player) from my own mission. The cutscenes that involved rabbit girl and tribe chief girl are fine because she is directly involved with what I am doing as the player-controlled character. When we cut away to other countries to watch someone walk up a hallway and talk to yet another random dude, I just kinda stop caring. I don't sense any danger or tension with those other hunters because all that happens with them is them talking or walking, or there's a scripted, non-interactable fight or stealth sequence involving a bunch of random soldiers, and it happens like 99% of the time we enter a new area. Do they even deal with succubi or are they just there to talk? Why send an Adalon hunter to go talk?

I am getting drawn into this forest, I have prepared myself to clear this forest that is filled with the plant succubus scourge, but anytime I take 20 steps I gotta watch another cutscene about some dude who I honestly don't really care about talking to some other dude in a toga or something. Then his friend comes in who is just the same picture with a different colored toga. And for every single one of these men we're introduced to, you make us watch 3 seconds of it scrolling up from their feet to their face. So all this time is adding up and taking the hype away from me clearing out this forest or cave or whatever and I am just sitting there in my cuckscene corner thinking "Where are the boobs? My feet hurt. I just wanna get some fish. How do I know about the parts I'm not there for?"

If I were to offer any kind of solution, it would be to just focus on the main character, and then later if (and this is just an assumption) somehow we all meetup again, maybe the MC can ask them about their story and we can play a little sidequest as those other people and get to see their character and motivations then.

Other than that though, I enjoy my time with the game. I like the succubus designs. I like fighting them. I like winning and losing to them. It's the main draw of the game. The focus should be on them and the player's interactions with them. Otherwise it's not really Succubus Covenant. It's Men Have Discussions Generation One: The Cursed Pacing. Like... can't I just get letters from them or something? Something I can just read and put away so I can actually play the video game?

If only it was at least skippable. Fleshed out settings are nice, but there's no control on our part of how much we want to see.

 

[NinjaNamedBob]

There aren't enough bosses to cover for all overarching stories.

I received criticism like this before. Some people enjoyed, others didn't like it. It is what it is.

SC has a lot of information and stories that will connect. From your brothers to even another planet survivors.

If your answer to a complaint is "it is what it is," then your PR guy needs to be fired, the writer needs to be reined in, and the lead developer needs to take a course on office management. You know what happened when nobody criticized George Lucas and let him write what he wanted? We got episodes 1 and 2. Lucas hopped at ideas he had and nobody had the balls to tell him that an idea was bad.

Your story can be an instant classic, a Shakespearean masterpiece, but guess what? Unless you "cut the fat" that people are complaining about, it won't be read. Right now, a majority of the positive reviews are the kind of empty praise that comes from people who actually think that Rick and Morty copypasta is some kind of deep, insightful statement. It's a shitpost, but they're all too dense to realize it. Those are the people who gave you five stars and claimed your game is some work of art. That is the standard you have decided is sufficient for yourself.

Now, I did give you some advice on a certain scene. The scene where diplomacy is in action, that isn't necessary. Have the Hunter sent that way reacting after the fact. Give us insight into how this society operates without showing us the boring parts. Politics isn't interesting. Star Wars can tell you that. Neither is two dudes talking about the recent past.

Rather than that scene in the room where the Embodiment of the Sun reveals what really happened, instead have the scene where they meet and then cut to them standing atop the gate and have the reveal happen. It works more fluidly if we don't have downtime before the Hunter in that scene is thrown into a frenzy and looking to murder something.

The stuff with the succubi homeworld is more fluff than relevant. You could argue that insight into the villains helps flesh things out, but I honestly couldn't have cared if Domina was an mlp fan character or a Lisa Ann image insert. Her and her forces added nothing of substance to what was already stated prior.

The other dimension stuff is also kinda irrelevant. I would honestly save it for when you meet up with them, and significantly shorten it to a handful of stills for the flashbacks. Let them exposition dump for maybe 5 minutes and move on.

I can't salvage the stuff with the mute Hunter. The best I can offer is he gets imprisoned, then the next scene is him sneaking around and confronting the mob boss guy.

Your cutscenes just got reduced to three main story ones, and a quick flashback later on. Problem solved, and none of them need more than 5 minutes to say what they need to say. Oh, and the Domina scene is gone because it added nothing except a cg. Yay. A single cg. You paid $40 for that, maybe?

I just edited your story for free.

 

[Succubus Hunter]

I give up hope for this ever being updated now Zion of Olympus sayed it would be faster to update without animations and still nothing

Zion is working hard to create his vision and share it those who want to see it. Good work takes time and he was very upfront about SC being a long term project. If you really want to help speed up the process, I suggest tossing them some coin.

 

[Zion of Olympus]

If your answer to a complaint is "it is what it is," then your PR guy needs to be fired, the writer needs to be reined in, and the lead developer needs to take a course on office management. You know what happened when nobody criticized George Lucas and let him write what he wanted? We got episodes 1 and 2. Lucas hopped at ideas he had and nobody had the balls to tell him that an idea was bad.

Your story can be an instant classic, a Shakespearean masterpiece, but guess what? Unless you "cut the fat" that people are complaining about, it won't be read. Right now, a majority of the positive reviews are the kind of empty praise that comes from people who actually think that Rick and Morty copypasta is some kind of deep, insightful statement. It's a shitpost, but they're all too dense to realize it. Those are the people who gave you five stars and claimed your game is some work of art. That is the standard you have decided is sufficient for yourself.

Now, I did give you some advice on a certain scene. The scene where diplomacy is in action, that isn't necessary. Have the Hunter sent that way reacting after the fact. Give us insight into how this society operates without showing us the boring parts. Politics isn't interesting. Star Wars can tell you that. Neither is two dudes talking about the recent past.

Rather than that scene in the room where the Embodiment of the Sun reveals what really happened, instead have the scene where they meet and then cut to them standing atop the gate and have the reveal happen. It works more fluidly if we don't have downtime before the Hunter in that scene is thrown into a frenzy and looking to murder something.

The stuff with the succubi homeworld is more fluff than relevant. You could argue that insight into the villains helps flesh things out, but I honestly couldn't have cared if Domina was an mlp fan character or a Lisa Ann image insert. Her and her forces added nothing of substance to what was already stated prior.

The other dimension stuff is also kinda irrelevant. I would honestly save it for when you meet up with them, and significantly shorten it to a handful of stills for the flashbacks. Let them exposition dump for maybe 5 minutes and move on.

I can't salvage the stuff with the mute Hunter. The best I can offer is he gets imprisoned, then the next scene is him sneaking around and confronting the mob boss guy.

Your cutscenes just got reduced to three main story ones, and a quick flashback later on. Problem solved, and none of them need more than 5 minutes to say what they need to say. Oh, and the Domina scene is gone because it added nothing except a cg. Yay. A single cg. You paid $40 for that, maybe?

I just edited your story for free.

If you have so much time and energy to write long texts explaining how things should be done on other's people work, I suggest putting all this availability into your own project. It will be much more fruitful.

I have a vision for this series, both how should be made and the story, and no amount of feedback will change that.

People who share the vision will gather and people who don't will not.

I'm here only to answer questions from the community, because I know that when they can't support us, they gather here.

Have a great day.

 

[Zion of Olympus]

I was surprised about the incubus, I didn't think we would meet him so soon.

That is one path of the story. Many will not meet him

 

[Porn_Jesus]

Zion of Olympus I like the mix between clearing an area and watching a cutscene. It gives you time to think about the plot, which succubus you might have fought seconds ago, what challenges are around the corner, etc.

Blowing them all at the same time into the players face would be meh indeed. I love how you want to tell a rich story and offer lots of sex at the same time. Usually the focus is on one of the two options and the other part is badly handled.

 

[Ir0n Ma1den]

I'm at the 3rd chapter and I'm amazed. I'm binging this game for 3 days strighert. It's rare to find such a good story in a sex game. I just wish that we could domestiacte at least 1 of the succubus. I also want a walkthrough since There is a romance with Iola and the other amazonian chick, and I'm kinda avoiding choosing comments that upset one or the other.

The game Dev did an amazing job with world building, and I hope ge won't listen to some of the comments written here about the cutscenes, since the cutsecens give a sense of how big the game world is.

I really hope that some Japanese animation studio make an anime of this game, since the lore is so rich and the charachters look good and are intreasting, both male and female.

About the Hellenitic style(I do enjoy it), but hope that you will encorporate other styles, such as Nordic style, Egyptian style, Asian (Chinease Japanease), Indian, South american( Inca, Maya, atztec) and etcc...

I hope we will be able to romance not just Human women, but angelic women and as I said in the biggining domsticate a succubus( Blondie in the bigining and her thicc friend cought my eye). Hope there is a harem ending.

Also liked the home cave, hope you will develop it further(Besides being Influanced by ancient Greece, I also see some infulances from Assassins Creed, don't want to spoil the new player those who played will understand).

And a small idea here, if you go with the Asian Japanese motive, a suggestion for to succubuses. A THICC elementel Japnease pristess with long black hair Gaint boobs and ass that wears a pristess Yukata, And a Shadow Succubus Ninja girl with short brown hair, scar a Gaint ass that likes anal.

 

[Zion of Olympus]

I'm at the 3rd chapter and I'm amazed. I'm binging this game for 3 days strighert. It's rare to find such a good story in a sex game. I just wish that we could domestiacte at least 1 of the succubus. I also want a walkthrough since There is a romance with Iola and the other amazonian chick, and I'm kinda avoiding choosing comments that upset one or the other.

The game Dev did an amazing job with world building, and I hope ge won't listen to some of the comments written here about the cutscenes, since the cutsecens give a sense of how big the game world is.

I really hope that some Japanese animation studio make an anime of this game, since the lore is so rich and the charachters look good and are intreasting, both male and female.

About the Hellenitic style(I do enjoy it), but hope that you will encorporate other styles, such as Nordic style, Egyptian style, Asian (Chinease Japanease), Indian, South american( Inca, Maya, atztec) and etcc...

I hope we will be able to romance not just Human women, but angelic women and as I said in the biggining domsticate a succubus( Blondie in the bigining and her thicc friend cought my eye). Hope there is a harem ending.

Also liked the home cave, hope you will develop it further(Besides being Influanced by ancient Greece, I also see some infulances from Assassins Creed, don't want to spoil the new player those who played will understand).

And a small idea here, if you go with the Asian Japanese motive, a suggestion for to succubuses. A THICC elementel Japnease pristess with long black hair Gaint boobs and ass that wears a pristess Yukata, And a Shadow Succubus Ninja girl with short brown hair, scar a Gaint ass that likes anal.

Thank you!

We have a wiki, this might help you:

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We have a lore page too:

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There will be other romances, but the humans are the main ones because of the heir of the next Era.

We have a chapter of Warlock Saga, which is available here as well. It's based on Middle East and Egyptian cultures!
More will be added as I continue to develop the series.

Thank you for your kind comment!

PS: The game ends on chapter 3 for now, but I'm working on chapter 4 hopefully to release it already next month.

 

[iloveporn69420]

Zion, is there currently, or will there be a way to continue saves between versions? last i checked there was no way for my data to persist from the demo to the entirety of ch3, which is really a bummer because I love the game but I don't love restarting it every update.

Thanks in advanced

 

[Porn_Jesus]

There will be other romances, but the humans are the main ones because of the heir of the next Era.

Have you thought about having a love romance in the future who isn't fully human but has unnatural skin tone, maybe some horns or wings, maybe even being an angel? If it is about being worried how the PC would look in the next era (I would go bonkers too if I had to offer multiple appearances for the PC to not raise questions what's canon now or not)... just tell the people that the PCs genes are dominant and his descendants are always human.

 

[Ir0n Ma1den]

Thank you!

We have a wiki, this might help you:

You must be registered to see the links

We have a lore page too:

You must be registered to see the links

There will be other romances, but the humans are the main ones because of the heir of the next Era.

We have a chapter of Warlock Saga, which is available here as well. It's based on Middle East and Egyptian cultures!
More will be added as I continue to develop the series.

Thank you for your kind comment!

PS: The game ends on chapter 3 for now, but I'm working on chapter 4 hopefully to release it already next month.

Well, I do hope you reconsider and add some un-human romance, In a game where you have succubuses and sexy angel not to have at least one of them as a romance or at least a fling(With a succubus that dosen't kill u) is a tease. Having at least one angel or a sexy succubus as an ally could be cool. You can give our main hero a relic that can rein in one succubus(A strong one to be your ally, or it could be cool if we could somehow ressurect one of the beaten succubuses of our choise to join our crew). I legit liked blondie and her companion, and black rose(Im a sucker with thicc gothic women).

Not having at least of of those sexy succubuses or angels is such a tease.

Secondly here is what I've ment when I said Japanese pristess

 

[Porn_Jesus]

Not having at least of of those sexy succubuses or angels is such a tease.

Succubus won't become waifus. They can't get pregnant and are there to kill you. Angels however... I don't know how they work but it looks like they don't always kill their males or Kain wouldn't be around anymore.

 

[Ir0n Ma1den]

Succubus won't become waifus. They can't get pregnant and are there to kill you. Angels however... I don't know how they work but it looks like they don't always kill their males or Kain wouldn't be around anymore.

I don't mean waifu, but more of a fling/ partner akin to that. Again its such a tease having such a hot succubuses, and not dominating or having a revenge sex with at least one of them.

In the End the Dev decides and I'm ok with his decisions, I'm just throwing an Idea

 

[Zion of Olympus]

I don't mean waifu, but more of a fling/ partner akin to that. Again its such a tease having such a hot succubuses, and not dominating or having a revenge sex with at least one of them.

In the End the Dev decides and I'm ok with his decisions, I'm just throwing an Idea

I understand. It's just that sex with a succubus is always dangerous.

In warlock saga, for example, they will try to manipulate you to remove the contract you have that prevents them from killing you and sucking you dry.

I have a romance planned for an angel and another "monster girl" (I don't want to spoil it for now).

 

[Porn_Jesus]

I have a romance planned for an angel and another "monster girl" (I don't want to spoil it for now).

Yay, daddy Zion cares for his children and rewards them if they cry long enough.

 

[Ir0n Ma1den]

I understand. It's just that sex with a succubus is always dangerous.

In warlock saga, for example, they will try to manipulate you to remove the contract you have that prevents them from killing you and sucking you dry.

I have a romance planned for an angel and another "monster girl" (I don't want to spoil it for now).

I just finished the 3rd chapter, amazing.

Well some of us like danger . and besides after heating how the belittle you and suck your companions dry, I would definetly want to revenge f*ck at least one of them.


And One of the succubi is kinda looks like a Japanease pristess so you already read my mind, Glad I didn't sent the original priestess picture that I've wanted don't want to spoil the fun for other guys.

Love where the story is going, Again a breath of frash air in a countless of mindless sex games(Not that they are bad for say) but its much more fun to have a game that is both story focused and has good sex in it.

And about the wiki, I don't see any information there. The site is empthy for some reason.

 

[Dreamer44]

Zion, is there currently, or will there be a way to continue saves between versions? last i checked there was no way for my data to persist from the demo to the entirety of ch3, which is really a bummer because I love the game but I don't love restarting it every update.

Thanks in advanced

The full version of chapter 3 saw a lot of changes in mechanics and gameplay from its previous versions, which is why the saves weren't compatible. Unless other great changes like that are made, chapters 4 and 5 should be able to accept saves from chapter 3.

 

[Dreamer44]

I understand. It's just that sex with a succubus is always dangerous.

In warlock saga, for example, they will try to manipulate you to remove the contract you have that prevents them from killing you and sucking you dry.

I have a romance planned for an angel and another "monster girl" (I don't want to spoil it for now).

Cool!

My bet is in that imp, but I have faith I'll like it regardless.

By the way Zion, how are you planning to carry the choices from game to game? Will the next game need a full save of the first one, or we'll have to answer questions at the beginning to clarify which path we took?