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Arc4de

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Succubus Covenant Chapter 4 : The story of a missed opportunity.

Well... after playing chapter 4 i have to say :

“At least we will always have the first 3 chapters”

Oh boy, this review will be a long and strange one...

So.. buckle up...

Once upon a time..:
I was given a chocolate inside a beautiful wrapping (prologue + 1st chapter) .
I opened the beautiful wrapping, thinking "no way this chocolate taste as good as the wrapping implies", and to my greatest surprise , this was one of the most delicious things i have ever tasted.
But then, i think to myself, "this is just an accident , no way this product can have the same taste and looks twice, it will fail either in presentation ,or in taste."
So i took another chocolate (2nd chapter) that had the same beautiful wrapping the fist had. I try it, and my mind is blown, because the taste was even improving!!.
So like a kid that cant wait for Christmas , but also like a scientist that cant wait for the lavatory results, i grabed another one of those beautifully wrapped chocolate bars (3rd chapter) and i devoured its content.
There was no doubt left in my mind by then: This was a godmade product, i was addicted to it , and i would gladly pay to preserve its greatness.
And i was so ecstatic when i heard that the chocolate got even better with added sprinkles on top.
So of course i run to try it out (4th chapter): I opened the wrapping , which was as beautiful as always, but slightly bigger now because of the added sprinkles ,and i get a big bite. And ...it had no taste...I said to myself "it cant be, i bet if i eat it all , i will receive eventually the same taste for sure , maybe better cause of the sprinkles" .But no :( . There was no taste. No sensation. And as much as i tried to look at the beautiful wrapping to remind me of the pleasure i felt when eating the previous bars, the magic was gone. And now, i can only wish i have never opened the 4th chocolate bar, so my faith to the product could last for ever, so i would still believe that this product was made by gods....Now, i will always be empty ,trying to only imagine how this chocolate with sprinkles should have tasted.

....Now .. i will always try to imagine the red hood ,and the dancer, made from Kainkout... :( ...a pleasure, that was taken from me..


OK,
First of all, congratulation to Zion for the vision and the implementation of this project.
Really Great job man !!!


The storytelling of an epic tale, and the character/battle progression of an adventure game, blends beautifully with both the physical and the spiritual sensation and danger a succubus interaction and idea should have.
But there is a great difference between the first 3 and the 4th chapter ( and sadly i suspect the 5th as well). You see in the 1st 3 chapters , the artist took your vision and it gave life to it. It gave it a soul. The pictures complemented the written sentences perfectly, giving LIFE to them. And i am not referring to the "explicit" scenes only. From the character page , to the "cutscenes" , to the expression of main characters, you could feel the quality of the final result.
You could actually SEE the character of every succubus matching perfectly the written text. It was like you were against something that had a soul. It is hard to give the sense of alive body and face movement in a single static image, but it is even harder to give character to that image. And Kainkout nailed them both. Big respect to this artist!!
The blending of the art, music,sound effects+text would give me the impression i was watching a movie!! Amazing result!

But , this is not the case with the 4th chapter (And you know it). Now, i have to mostly depend on the written text and the story, to give life to what i am seeing or hearing .The images are souless, lifeless, character-less , motionless. Now im not having the feeling i am watching a movie, but a comic book with low image quality and good story. There wasn't one single Succubus in chapter 4 that i was tempted to loose from ...I dont even have the curiosity to see the alternative scenes..Ι quickly destroyed most of the succubus on chapter 4 , i would rather have an interaction with Socrates than them...When i first saw the Dancer i sincerely thought that her extended hair behind her back was a part of her cape...I mean , cmon man.. The erotic part just isnt there anymore..Im just laughing now...


I could go on for hours on specific things that made the art better, some of them have already being addressed on this forum.
I don't say that Kainkout art was perfection, he has weak points also , and big ones (he knows how to hide them), but i could FEEL a soul in the character. And "feel" is the magic word, if you are trying to sell anything at all. If you cant achieve feeling, you are loosing your audience or fanbase.
Personally i would prefer waiting (and i would actually support) a chapter with the art quality of the first 3 chapters even if it took 1 year (or even more) per chapter , than the quantity of 3 chapters that are like the 4th one.
My plan was to finish all 4 chapters and then decide if i would be a patron. And by the end of the 3rd i was sold, i was not thinking the "if", i was thinking of "what patron option" i would choose. Now.. i wish i never played the 4th chapter.

I have to stop now and use my gauntlet, because i will loose all my stamina and my keyboard will start energy drain on me..

Which reminds me:

Please...for the love of Serene, Ilios & Asteri...this new energy drain art is like putting something to a power socket..just terrible...

PS2 : The phrase "more bones for us" when i killed the which-hunter made me laugh so hard that i spilled the wine i was drinking. Congrats for the writing again!!
 

Porn_Jesus

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First of all, congratulation to Zion for the vision and the implementation of this project.
Really Great job man !!!


The storytelling of an epic tale, and the character/battle progression of an adventure game, blends beautifully with both the physical and the spiritual sensation and danger a succubus interaction and idea should have.
But there is a great difference between the first 3 and the 4th chapter ( and sadly i suspect the 5th as well). You see in the 1st 3 chapters , the artist took your vision and it gave life to it. It gave it a soul. The pictures complemented the written sentences perfectly, giving LIFE to them. And i am not referring to the "explicit" scenes only. From the character page , to the "cutscenes" , to the expression of main characters, you could feel the quality of the final result.
You could actually SEE the character of every succubus matching perfectly the written text. It was like you were against something that had a soul. It is hard to give the sense of alive body and face movement in a single static image, but it is even harder to give character to that image. And Kainkout nailed them both. Big respect to this artist!!
The blending of the art, music,sound effects+text would give me the impression i was watching a movie!! Amazing result!

But , this is not the case with the 4th chapter (And you know it). Now, i have to mostly depend on the written text and the story, to give life to what i am seeing or hearing .The images are souless, lifeless, character-less , motionless. Now im not having the feeling i am watching a movie, but a comic book with low image quality and good story. There wasn't one single Succubus in chapter 4 that i was tempted to loose from ...I dont even have the curiosity to see the alternative scenes..Ι quickly destroyed most of the succubus on chapter 4 , i would rather have an interaction with Socrates than them...When i first saw the Dancer i sincerely thought that her extended hair behind her back was a part of her cape...I mean , cmon man.. The erotic part just isnt there anymore..Im just laughing now...


I could go on for hours on specific things that made the art better, some of them have already being addressed on this forum.
I don't say that Kainkout art was perfection, he has weak points also , and big ones (he knows how to hide them), but i could FEEL a soul in the character. And "feel" is the magic word, if you are trying to sell anything at all. If you cant achieve feeling, you are loosing your audience or fanbase.
Personally i would prefer waiting (and i would actually support) a chapter with the art quality of the first 3 chapters even if it took 1 year (or even more) per chapter , than the quantity of 3 chapters that are like the 4th one.
My plan was to finish all 4 chapters and then decide if i would be a patron. And by the end of the 3rd i was sold, i was not thinking the "if", i was thinking of "what patron option" i would choose. Now.. i wish i never played the 4th chapter.

I have to stop now and use my gauntlet, because i will loose all my stamina and my keyboard will start energy drain on me..

Which reminds me:

Please...for the love of Serene, Ilios & Asteri...this new energy drain art is like putting something to a power socket..just terrible...

PS2 : The phrase "more bones for us" when i killed the which-hunter made me laugh so hard that i spilled the wine i was drinking. Congrats for the writing again!!
I decided to quote at that point, the part before that looked like someone had his minutes from childhood, wrapped inside a fishbowl that lacks water and fish but is good to collect tears.

Anyway... what do you expect? Should Zion wait and look for a few months until THE perfect artist appears from heaven that pleases everyone? Kainkout is gone, end of story, bla bla bla.

I tell you what would happen if he would do that. The same shitstorm would hit the next artist and people would blame Zion for being lazy because he broke his deadline. Sounds good, right? Fits the whip thematic of chapter 2, splendid. <3

That being said, take it or leave it. Sometimes I wonder why the dev is still doing this. Must be one stubborn guy or be determined as fuck. I surely wouldn't take that shit for months.

So my friend, what is the solution to this problem? You had enough time to write a novel, now I would like to see something that helps the project.
 
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Mr.Gamer

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Well, in all fairness, Zion did say that the artstyle had to change in order to meet his deadlines. But the next game is supposed to include alternate sex scenes and the new artist has plenty of time to improve. After all, it's mostly just one chapter and I don't expect the exact amount of detail as Kain with the new artist; but it's not to the point where I'd call it an step backwards.
 

UlAlo22

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I can't find last one succubus,and when i finish battle with Lady black,I meet a succubus named shadow knife,how can i win her?
 

Dreamer44

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You know, I don't get why the LIs say throwing a party at the end of chapter 4 is a bad idea and that the men shouldn't be so careless... If a party was thrown at the end of chapter 3, and they more than happily participated.
 

BigTombolo

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I think we can expect something for march, maybe the end of march for the new chapter or the new IP game.
Nothing confirmed by the Dev, just me thinking.
 

Zion of Olympus

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You know, I don't get why the LIs say throwing a party at the end of chapter 4 is a bad idea and that the men shouldn't be so careless... If a party was thrown at the end of chapter 3, and they more than happily participated.
That's exactly the point, they weren't invited lol
If they had been, it would be ok :LOL:

Seriously though, the men were basically partaking in an orgy while drinking until passing out. Differently than the Hammerfall celebration that they were just trying to relax and talk. They were still very much alert.

And things got considerably more dangerous now. They were noteworthy of special assassins from the Scorching Hell.

After driving the duchess away, their forces were in full retreat, so they could have at least 1 "night's out", since Hammerfall did more a confraternization than a full on party-until-i-am-drunk kind of thing.

Basically the party in Hammerfall was a confraternization, while the Noble Lion one was a full party.
 

PaYrO212

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So, this question it's kinda weird but I was thinking:
Between a Man and a young Boy, What's more tempting to drain for a succubus? The man for the amount of cum and lust or the boy for his pure and innocence? Or that depends the succubus?
 
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Porn_Jesus

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So, this question it's kinda weird but I was thinking:
Between a Man and a young Boy, What's more tempting to drain for a succubus? The man for the amount of cum and lust or the boy for his pure and innocence? Or that depends the succubus?
I would say it depends on the Succubus but in the end a meal is a meal and when you are very hungry or close to death by starvation you drop any morale code or preference.^^ Technically an adult should have more stamina and life energy so the Succubus will probably get more out of the victim.
 

Zion of Olympus

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So, this question it's kinda weird but I was thinking:
Between a Man and a young Boy, What's more tempting to drain for a succubus? The man for the amount of cum and lust or the boy for his pure and innocence? Or that depends the succubus?
Like Porn said. It varies from succubus to succubus. Each man has a different taste for them.

But the only ones who can choose their meals are the ones at the top of the hierarchy, like a duchess or her direct personal guard.

Its' another reason why they seek to rise as soon as possible and by whatever means necessary.
 
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I suggest letting people save whenever and wherever. Even after a couple hours I couldn't save the game regardless of inn use, campfires, or the menu. This tells me you broke your save mechanism trying to be fancy. A game that cannot be saved or beaten within 15 minutes is plainly put, unplayable trash undeserving of the distinction of "game". Do not repeat this mistake in your future titles.
 
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Zion of Olympus

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I suggest letting people save whenever and wherever. Even after a couple hours I couldn't save the game regardless of inn use, campfires, or the menu. This tells me you broke your save mechanism trying to be fancy. A game that cannot be saved or beaten within 15 minutes is plainly put, unplayable trash undeserving of the distinction of "game". Do not repeat this mistake in your future titles.
That is a bug. If you skip the prologue, you will be able to save.

We changed the save plugin to allow people more saving slots and have features such as images, description, etc. But it created this bug if you play the prologue that I didn't foreseen.
 

Porn_Jesus

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I suggest letting people save whenever and wherever. Even after a couple hours I couldn't save the game regardless of inn use, campfires, or the menu. This tells me you broke your save mechanism trying to be fancy. A game that cannot be saved or beaten within 15 minutes is plainly put, unplayable trash undeserving of the distinction of "game". Do not repeat this mistake in your future titles.
A little less of that tone in the future, yes? If you don't know what happened, ask and learn.
 

Zion of Olympus

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A little less of that tone in the future, yes? If you don't know what happened, ask and learn.
And I only replied because I didn't read the last part of his post. I thought it was just a question about not being able to save again.

I have that answer saved so I just copy and paste.

I'll be sure to read next time for a guy with that tone that doesn't even support the game in any shape or form.
 
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