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Kalam 1986

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If I understand correctly, Zion wanted to branch out to side projects (Eden Crest) and diverted time into that. I is not what we want and it is not as good as Succubus Covenant or Warlock Saga in my opinion, but it is understandable. I don't agree with the decision to divert time and resources from the main series like Zion of Olympus did, but I get it. It's very easy to burn out doing the same thing and pretty normal to want to explore other avenues or hit a writers block and such. Been there.

Thus, I believe that this delay is not abandonment of the game or intentional long-term money milking like we've seen in many projects. I would venture a guess that the delay is caused by diverting resources and possibly burnout, but the game will come. Sure, it sucks that it is delayed, but I am rather confident that Zion will deliver... eventually.
You are missing a nut at the top or bottom.
 

Kalam 1986

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Dec 31, 2020
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I get it that you are probably insulting me, but your meaning is rather unclear, so I don't feel properly insulted. Have a nice day.



Where did you find this gem?
Not probably, clearly clearly it is an insult that why u are missing a nut at the top.
And acting like a nice guy and ran away or deleting the comments after fail to improve zion image then run away again also mean u are missing a nut at bottom.
Unless u are a woman with no nuts then i apologize for second one.

Have a nice day too )
 

Frosthugger

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Dec 28, 2017
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I understand you disagree with me and that's what the insult is about. The "missing nut" thing went over my head, english is not my first langueage and it is a weird expression. I now understand that you are calling me stupid. Meh, I'm too old to care about insults too much. However, you could have said which points you disagree with specifically. Discussions are fun.

What am I running away from? I did delete a comment, yes, but before anyone replied to it and only to post the exact same comment again a moment later with the added reference to the picture of the Agreia to avoid double posts. Which are not supposed to happen.

As for improving Zion's image... I have no affiliation with Zion. I don't even subscribe to his patreon, just a pirate like everybody else. That being said, I respect Zion for making a really good game. Sure, the updates are slow and all that, hte game has some faults like unskippable cutscenes and filler combat. Also Eden Crest was a fiasco in my opinion. However, I really like Succubus Covenant and Warlock Saga and the delays are not enough for me to assume that Zion is milking the patrons or whatever. Personally, I suspect a degree of burnout, but that is just speculation on my part.

As for Kemono, I kind of feel that it is scummy, but I also admitted that I might be in the wrong on this. Speaking of which, I have to apologize to The Jack Sparrow - you were right and I was wrong, because I could not resist and used Kemono to read the Succubus Covenant comic. Thus I have no moral ground to argue against Kemono. So I concede on that to you.
 

VirusFinder

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Feb 11, 2022
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I understand you disagree with me and that's what the insult is about. The "missing nut" thing went over my head, english is not my first langueage and it is a weird expression. I now understand that you are calling me stupid. Meh, I'm too old to care about insults too much. However, you could have said which points you disagree with specifically. Discussions are fun.

What am I running away from? I did delete a comment, yes, but before anyone replied to it and only to post the exact same comment again a moment later with the added reference to the picture of the Agreia to avoid double posts. Which are not supposed to happen.

As for improving Zion's image... I have no affiliation with Zion. I don't even subscribe to his patreon, just a pirate like everybody else. That being said, I respect Zion for making a really good game. Sure, the updates are slow and all that, hte game has some faults like unskippable cutscenes and filler combat. Also Eden Crest was a fiasco in my opinion. However, I really like Succubus Covenant and Warlock Saga and the delays are not enough for me to assume that Zion is milking the patrons or whatever. Personally, I suspect a degree of burnout, but that is just speculation on my part.

As for Kemono, I kind of feel that it is scummy, but I also admitted that I might be in the wrong on this. Speaking of which, I have to apologize to The Jack Sparrow - you were right and I was wrong, because I could not resist and used Kemono to read the Succubus Covenant comic. Thus I have no moral ground to argue against Kemono. So I concede on that to you.
Is this the new story of Chapter 5?
 

Kalam 1986

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Dec 31, 2020
26
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I understand you disagree with me and that's what the insult is about. The "missing nut" thing went over my head, english is not my first langueage and it is a weird expression. I now understand that you are calling me stupid. Meh, I'm too old to care about insults too much. However, you could have said which points you disagree with specifically. Discussions are fun.

What am I running away from? I did delete a comment, yes, but before anyone replied to it and only to post the exact same comment again a moment later with the added reference to the picture of the Agreia to avoid double posts. Which are not supposed to happen.

As for improving Zion's image... I have no affiliation with Zion. I don't even subscribe to his patreon, just a pirate like everybody else. That being said, I respect Zion for making a really good game. Sure, the updates are slow and all that, hte game has some faults like unskippable cutscenes and filler combat. Also Eden Crest was a fiasco in my opinion. However, I really like Succubus Covenant and Warlock Saga and the delays are not enough for me to assume that Zion is milking the patrons or whatever. Personally, I suspect a degree of burnout, but that is just speculation on my part.

As for Kemono, I kind of feel that it is scummy, but I also admitted that I might be in the wrong on this. Speaking of which, I have to apologize to The Jack Sparrow - you were right and I was wrong, because I could not resist and used Kemono to read the Succubus Covenant comic. Thus I have no moral ground to argue against Kemono. So I concede on that to you.
Can someone read this for me? I say nope to read these long reply again.
 
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alien300

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I get it that you are probably insulting me, but your meaning is rather unclear, so I don't feel properly insulted. Have a nice day.



Where did you find this gem?
I jus image search "Succubus Covenant fan art rule 34" and found it, but im sure there is more like this out there.
 
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I don't support needlessly antagonizing Zion, but I don't get this, "If you don't like it, don't play it" that all the Zion supporters here are peddling so far.

There is nothing wrong with being critical of how Zion has handled things so far. 3DCG RPGM devs have to churn out expensive renders AND make the actual game. The devs behind What A Legend, make custom beautiful handcrafted environments AND they provide biweekly updates. LAGS made an excellent plasmophobia-style gameplay loop for their game and I have no problems dumping 10-12 euros to support such devs as long as it has a [Completed] tag. In fact, I'm totally fine with even giving Zion this amount should he manage to complete this game, out of respect for his earlier chapters (with Kainkout's art).

But take a closer look at what this game offers. The animations that were there in chapter 3 were morphs, not even animated renders, and Zion said it takes too much time, so in the future, all anims are going to be removed.

Kain's art is what gave this game its popularity. Should he have started with Devil, I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be as popular as it is today. It just feels "bait and switch", especially knowing that Kain hasn't stopped making NSFW art. Also, we had both of these artists injuring themselves while drawing but even after giving the benefit of the doubt, ART can be inserted at any point into the game. Not having ART doesn't mean the game's actual development has to be halted. In fact, he should have been done, way before he even got his commissioned art.

There is no gameplay loop at all, it's just generic enemies that are littered everywhere. Fuck those plants. Balance ? Did Eden Crest seem balanced to you? You had to start over from level 1, every time you got a new bot. It's fucking insane lol.

I will give Zion credit where credit is due, the writing in SC is better than a lot of other devs. Perhaps writing is his strong suit, not programming. Writing in EC sucked, but again, giving him the benefit of the doubt. It was a "side" project that no one asked for.

But with all that being said, 5 years for this product is ridiculous. Yes, you can say he worked on Eden Crest and the other summoner game, but come on. As long as there's patreon income, there is no need to timely deliver something. I get it, he may have lost interest, maybe he's doing this as a side project and he has obligations in real life but Im just calling a spade a spade.
SC should have got [Abandoned] tag a long time ago.
 

Facha1234

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Mar 11, 2019
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Hello, i can't save my progress from a certain point of the story, right before the training in the south on the map at the beginning of the story, if you know how to solve it please let me know, thank you in advance. The button 'save' is just not available unlike the 'load' and 'delete' button which appear to be available
In case you couldn't solve it: I'm guessing you're still on Ch0 (story intro). You can save your game once MC grows up and goes onto his mission (beginning of Ch1).
 
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In case you couldn't solve it: I'm guessing you're still on Ch0 (story intro). You can save your game once MC grows up and goes onto his mission (beginning of Ch1).
There's a known bug in the prologue in the current version where the save feature breaks at the end of it lmao. Basically the workaround is beat the prologue, then start a new game and skip the prologue.
 

Succubus Hunter

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According to Discord, Zion has finished the succubus battles part along with some extra dungeons.
Awesome! I'm looking forward to it!

There's a known bug in the prologue in the current version where the save feature breaks at the end of it lmao. Basically the workaround is beat the prologue, then start a new game and skip the prologue.
That bites, I'm sure that's going to fixed in the next update.
 
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