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RPGM Completed Succubus Game ~Unbeknownst to my Girlfriend, I'm Pleasure Corrupted in My Dreams~ [v1.01 Bugfix] [QRoss]

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zeroxland

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In that case since it is a male protagonist (point of view) I will feel like it is a harem/cheating game rather than ntr no?
that depends on what is it that makes you feel one way or another, for this game specifically the MC has a choice of either cheating on his girlfriend with the succubus in his dream(which later leads to some events in reality) or refusing to cheat. And thats really the central point of it, in the cheating route the mc is indeed stolen from his gf.
 
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throwawaycoom

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I was going to say it can't be NTR if your perspective is the one being taken but that actually happens a lot in female MC games. Fair enough carry on.
 

bobdillan

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ValorKG You should remove the NTR tags, and change it to cheating (for the thread tag), and reverse-NTR under genre, since NTR (netorare) is specifically when the MC is stolen from, not when they themselves are stolen (since that is the reverse).
 

ValorKG

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ValorKG You should remove the NTR tags, and change it to cheating (for the thread tag), and reverse-NTR under genre, since NTR (netorare) is specifically when the MC is stolen from, not when they themselves are stolen (since that is the reverse).
This would be the first time I'd be doing something like that. Since I didn't put the tags up (the mods did), I actually don't know how. Changing the genre was pretty easy. It's the tags I can't seem to alter.
 
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ValorKG

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Honestly, when I translated this game, I didn't realize there was gonna be a large discussion on the definition of NTR in the thread itself. Here I was thinking that NTR was just cheating with a focus on corruption and humiliating the cheated party, which does describe this game rather sufficiently.

Shows what I know. The cheating tag should probably be up there, but I'm not convinced that the NTR tag should be removed per see. But if everyone wants me to do that, I will, provided I can figure out how to do it.
 
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In that case since it is a male protagonist (point of view) I will feel like it is a harem/cheating game rather than ntr no?
ValorKG You should remove the NTR tags, and change it to cheating (for the thread tag), and reverse-NTR under genre, since NTR (netorare) is specifically when the MC is stolen from, not when they themselves are stolen (since that is the reverse).
I am very certain it's classified as NTR. There are many NTR with this theme of the male being stolen away from the wife/girlfriend. This is just a type of NTR people do not see a lot. I saw this a bunch in some NTR manga.

The important thing is how heavily it affects the female in the equation; does the story include their reaction? Does it show the POV of the female partner? <- The answers to these determine whether a story is NTR, or cheating. Cheating stories do not consider the other partner's POV (I've read plenty of cheating and NTR manga to know the fine line between both). In this case, if the girlfriend was never mentioned or shown any reaction at all to the MC being stolen away, then yes this would be a Cheating game. Well, I won't know this without playing it, so ValorKG you can decide on it.

Just because the "MC" is male and is the one being stolen doesn't make it just cheating. Think about most NTR games or media you've consume: The main POV is, in fact, on the female who is being stolen. Same thing here, except it's a male this time.
I do think it is reverse-NTR, but do we have that tag on this site? If not then OP should specify that in the description somewhere, but still keep the NTR tag.

EDIT: reorganizing my comment
 
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ValorKG

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Alright. I'm convinced. After spending a few minutes looking over the definition of NTR, and reading some male:netorare doujins on Hitomi, I've concluded that this is definitely an NTR game. I believe I was right the first time. This is the game about an individual in a loving relationship entering a sexual relationship with someone else, enjoying said relationship, and finding sexual pleasure in cheating on that person. Everything I'm seeing seems to suggest that if the MC didn't have this conflict of enjoying the cheating element, it wouldn't be NTR. If he could stop cheating and just break up with her when he no longer loved her, it would just be cheating. But he can't, because he won't, because he loves it. It's NTR.

I still can't see a way to alter the site's tags (if I did, I would add the cheating tag and remove the rape one. There is no rape in this game.). The genre has been set as Cuckoldry (Netorare (Female Steals Male)) as an attempt to provide a compromise. I'm starting to believe that it's not actually possible for non-mods to change the thread tags.

That's my piece. This game is NTR. I'm still not entirely satisfied with the tags they put on this game, but that won't be changing. End of story. Besides, it doesn't matter. Why are we even arguing this? The game is good anyway, NTR or not.
 
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Niraeza

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No, it is reverse rape because with rape it is usually a man raping a woman, however in this case the reverse is true, a woman is raping a man. The tag exists to highlight the role reversal.
Rape is rape, no matter who is the one doing it. Adding reverse to it as well as some other words it gets added to is probably the dumbest linguistic move in our society. The word already has a strict definition and that strict definition does not include "Usually performed by men".
 

zorb9009

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Rape is rape, no matter who is the one doing it. Adding reverse to it as well as some other words it gets added to is probably the dumbest linguistic move in our society. The word already has a strict definition and that strict definition does not include "Usually performed by men".
It's dumb, but it's literally just a fetish thing. It's handy to have a keyword for it (and it's only on sites like this where it exists), since otherwise you have to combine multiple keywords for a relatively common fetish just to narrow it down. I don't disagree it's a dumb name, but this is the most reasonable way to put it.
 
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DeSkel15

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Reverse Rape should be just the MC getting raped. Male or Female. Instead of raping, they're getting raped = Reverse Rape. Or like if you rape a rapist. If it's just because it's specifically a guy getting raped then there should be a tag called Male Rape and it's actually rather common in H games to the point it's inarguably a fetish. Anyone can be raped, and it shouldn't be called reverse rape just because of Gender. If that's not enough to convince you, then Male Rape is even shorter and more to the point than Reverse Rape. I mean it'd literally make things easier and less offensive.

Same with NTR. Reverse NTR is more or less just cucking someone while NTR is getting cucked, regardless of Gender. Except usually it's more about the emotional aspect than just physical.
 

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Hunted in a Labyrinth chase ... Yes please :p
Oh! It's [censored] ... well, that just killed all levels of excitement right there!
Pass!
 
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JorgeFFC

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In that case since it is a male protagonist (point of view) I will feel like it is a harem/cheating game rather than ntr no?
NTR is valid for both genres... have u never heard about... "Equal rights"?. Just so u understand, cheating can happen between both, though NTR tends to force point of view of both... with the guy somehow becoming aware he is been cheated, or focusing in his vain mind not noticing anything with someone else stealing the guy/girl. Cheating is natural and normally happens when any(girl or guy) is willing to cheat their pair with someone else and no change of view/pov happens at all, with the guy/girl totally unaware of what is happening. NTR By itself is "Cheating" though the kind of situation changes... there's why we had different tags within NTR born to explain situations like... Netori = everything from point of view from the guy/girl stealing the guy/girl ; Netorare = PoV, point of view of the one being cucked, slowly noticing/already noticed but can't do anything but cry as weak mc he/she is ; Netorasare = Guy/girl is aware of the cheating and hypes it up, set up the plot, want to be cheated. Sometimes just for the sake of recording to get excited or something.

And outside of those, the situations can be explained as type a, b, c. So people confuse a lot. Not all Cheating is NTR but all NTR become cheating. The cheating tag is removed when the guy is aware though, then we have the condition kind of ntr there. For deeper situation explanation, check anime-sharing page about ntr tag...
 
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