RPGM Succum Brewery [v0.4.4] [LimeJuiceGames]

[Karnewarrior]

Yeah. I don't vibe with the new art, but I sure ain't gonna drop a game like this because of it. This is easily one of the best games on the site and would remain so probably even if you redid the art to make all the girls look like half-drowned Chihuahuas.

Again, I think it's just a color balancing issue, but I ain't a professional artist.

 

[RapidMagic0705]

Yeah I think I'd agree with most people in the thread right now that the art change is... strange to say the least. Its definitely better than 1 or 2 of the old images but every other one is a step in the wrong direction. If this is just for the bartending, then wouldn't there be LESS consistency, not more? go from the training scenes to this, and the art style just completely changes. Sure the old art was inconsistent at times and sometimes bad (specifically her boobs looking bad occasionally) but at least it was all the same art style

 

[Karnewarrior]

I mean, the style isn't too different. If you thickened up the outlines a bit and let things run into each other (which, tbf, was the biggest issue with the old style. It made things look very busy and jumbled), and then touched up the colors so she doesn't look like a vampiress trying out pastel black hair dye, it'd probably work.

I don't want the game to get bogged down in art though. Heck, I think the old style was fine enough for a finished project. Even if it's tempting to apply upgrades as you discover/invent them, at a certain point I don't think it's conducive to actually getting a finished product out there. Especially something subjective like art, which will never look good to the artist.

 

[Gantoris]

I agree that the old art has more character, and is sexier.

Imagine a beloved pixel art game, which is then "polished" up to be photorealistic. like the April-fools-day "upgrade" of HD visuals for Dave the Diver. (ex

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) It just looks wrong. In this case "improvement" shaved away all the emotion and characterization.

No hate to the artist. But the original art style is way better! The "sketch-like" quality of the original art is a Feature, not a Bug...! We love it...! Put it back...! :3

 

[LimeJuiceGames]

Anyone ever play World of Warcraft in the early days? And a dev or community manager or whoever the fuck he was got ass blasted over the shaman forum giving him a hard time so he said he would avoid shaman updates as a punishment and then they made a Photoshop of him being hit by a bus and he got even more mad? I always wondered what could drive a man to take internet criticism so seriously?
Anyway... I told myself if I ever became a dev I wouldn't be so easily tilted because input is good. Even bad input is good. You just have to decide how to filter it through your own vision and experiences and take away from it what you can. So I don't intend on chasing the community's vision of perfection or I would be pulled in 8 directions at once and never get anything done.
That said... the game's artist did see all this and took some of the more constructive criticism to heart and sent me this before/after today.

 

[DemonLord98]

Anyone ever play World of Warcraft in the early days? And a dev or community manager or whoever the fuck he was got ass blasted over the shaman forum giving him a hard time so he said he would avoid shaman updates as a punishment and then they made a Photoshop of him being hit by a bus and he got even more mad? I always wondered what could drive a man to take internet criticism so seriously?
Anyway... I told myself if I ever became a dev I wouldn't be so easily tilted because input is good. Even bad input is good. You just have to decide how to filter it through your own vision and experiences and take away from it what you can. So I don't intend on chasing the community's vision of perfection or I would be pulled in 8 directions at once and never get anything done.
That said... the game's artist did see all this and took some of the more constructive criticism to heart and sent me this before/after today.

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SOOO much better looking! The shiny tits were just glaring.

 

[Tampan02]

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nice....

 

[xanon515x]

Anyone ever play World of Warcraft in the early days? And a dev or community manager or whoever the fuck he was got ass blasted over the shaman forum giving him a hard time so he said he would avoid shaman updates as a punishment and then they made a Photoshop of him being hit by a bus and he got even more mad? I always wondered what could drive a man to take internet criticism so seriously?
Anyway... I told myself if I ever became a dev I wouldn't be so easily tilted because input is good. Even bad input is good. You just have to decide how to filter it through your own vision and experiences and take away from it what you can. So I don't intend on chasing the community's vision of perfection or I would be pulled in 8 directions at once and never get anything done.
That said... the game's artist did see all this and took some of the more constructive criticism to heart and sent me this before/after today.

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Much much better!! =D

 

[DickCheese420]

Anyone ever play World of Warcraft in the early days? And a dev or community manager or whoever the fuck he was got ass blasted over the shaman forum giving him a hard time so he said he would avoid shaman updates as a punishment and then they made a Photoshop of him being hit by a bus and he got even more mad? I always wondered what could drive a man to take internet criticism so seriously?
Anyway... I told myself if I ever became a dev I wouldn't be so easily tilted because input is good. Even bad input is good. You just have to decide how to filter it through your own vision and experiences and take away from it what you can. So I don't intend on chasing the community's vision of perfection or I would be pulled in 8 directions at once and never get anything done.
That said... the game's artist did see all this and took some of the more constructive criticism to heart and sent me this before/after today.

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Imo this is a step in the right direction in terms of shading. The tongue might still be a little bit too red tho.
I also hope the artist will touch up the MC's face on some of these panels. I find her old head proportions look better overall.



The new update also replaced some old poses that looked sexier than the new ones and it would be cool to have them back updated.

 

[BadIdea102]

Gotta say, the new art makes the cat ears look like they're actually placed on the head instead of behind it, which is nice. I'm not sure whether I like them smaller. Leaning towards "no", but maybe I'll get used to them? Also, the new art does a better job at keeping the breasts consistently sized and 3d-believable.

Like others have said, the old art is sexier at this point, and that's what matters most, but I see what the new art's going for and appreciate it.

 

[iamnuff]

Anyone ever play World of Warcraft in the early days? And a dev or community manager or whoever the fuck he was got ass blasted over the shaman forum giving him a hard time so he said he would avoid shaman updates as a punishment and then they made a Photoshop of him being hit by a bus and he got even more mad? I always wondered what could drive a man to take internet criticism so seriously?
Anyway... I told myself if I ever became a dev I wouldn't be so easily tilted because input is good. Even bad input is good. You just have to decide how to filter it through your own vision and experiences and take away from it what you can. So I don't intend on chasing the community's vision of perfection or I would be pulled in 8 directions at once and never get anything done.
That said... the game's artist did see all this and took some of the more constructive criticism to heart and sent me this before/after today.

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I've always heard that the trick with criticism is to take whatever could be useful from it, and then just move on without letting it bruise your ego.
You seem to be the sort who handles that well.

Well, that being said, those two pieces of art are so similar that i'm not really sure what the point was? Like, the right (new?) one has starker colours whereas the left one looks softer but like... was there a pressing reason to replace it?

To be clear, this isn't a complaint, i'm just a little confused. There's nothing actually wrong with the 'before' image, so... i'm not sure why you'd have that redone instead of just focusing on new art.

 

[Karnewarrior]

Anyone ever play World of Warcraft in the early days? And a dev or community manager or whoever the fuck he was got ass blasted over the shaman forum giving him a hard time so he said he would avoid shaman updates as a punishment and then they made a Photoshop of him being hit by a bus and he got even more mad? I always wondered what could drive a man to take internet criticism so seriously?
Anyway... I told myself if I ever became a dev I wouldn't be so easily tilted because input is good. Even bad input is good. You just have to decide how to filter it through your own vision and experiences and take away from it what you can. So I don't intend on chasing the community's vision of perfection or I would be pulled in 8 directions at once and never get anything done.
That said... the game's artist did see all this and took some of the more constructive criticism to heart and sent me this before/after today.

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Now this I can fucking get behind

I knew it was a color balancing issue!

 

[slowparson]

That said... the game's artist did see all this and took some of the more constructive criticism to heart and sent me this before/after today.

If the artist is down, just show them this:

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[Nedara]

I've always heard that the trick with criticism is to take whatever could be useful from it, and then just move on without letting it bruise your ego.
You seem to be the sort who handles that well.

The even better trick is just not reading it, and asking someone tangent to the project (who know of it, but is not directly working on it) tell you about what people are thinking and make regular reports. That person can filter the really nasty comments and keep the useful ones/tell you the overall reception.

 

[cracklemere]

Anyone ever play World of Warcraft in the early days? And a dev or community manager or whoever the fuck he was got ass blasted over the shaman forum giving him a hard time so he said he would avoid shaman updates as a punishment and then they made a Photoshop of him being hit by a bus and he got even more mad? I always wondered what could drive a man to take internet criticism so seriously?
Anyway... I told myself if I ever became a dev I wouldn't be so easily tilted because input is good. Even bad input is good. You just have to decide how to filter it through your own vision and experiences and take away from it what you can. So I don't intend on chasing the community's vision of perfection or I would be pulled in 8 directions at once and never get anything done.
That said... the game's artist did see all this and took some of the more constructive criticism to heart and sent me this before/after today.

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Lime, this is so much nicer!

 

[Shiningforcehero]

As much as I want to critic the new look I'm happy it's not AI.

I'l miss those perfect pink af tits.

 

[cracklemere]

This image needs to return. The thigh gap and panty shot are too hot to lose.

 

[droglob]

Ah, fucking with art halfway through. Another WEG classic.

Massive downgrade. Was already composing the eulogy before i saw the post about the retouches, so I'm dialing it down to just critical state.

 

[Asafax]

Is the android version just kinda busted? There's multiple menus where you just get locked in with no way to leave, have noticed it in the options and the social tab of the first bar event so far

 

[alex andrews]

Is there a modded version or cheats?