Ren'Py Summertime Saga [v21.0.0 wip.5091] [Kompas Productions]

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MurkyTurtle

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CUNTBLAZER420 said:
Pure speculation of course, but I would guess they've had to scrap and redo everything from zero at least a couple of times. Probably getting hung up restructuring the game to allow for easier implementation of the dating system in the future. Not really sure how that all would have worked spliced onto the old game.
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It probably wouldn't have, and I share your speculation on multiple restarts. I suspect the primary reason they haven't changed engines to something more friendly is because they'd be sacrificing easy Android support in the process. Since they've said in the past that a significant portion of their audience is mobile users and that removing the black bars on the phone screen was a major impetus for switching to widescreen, they're stuck trying to modify Ren'Py into something it was never designed for.

It's particularly concerning that they haven't closed a single coding task in nearly four months, even after splitting things up to reflect the current state of development. The tracker on
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Username7, you maybe got a tracker update? Last month's progress report had coding doing some asinine stuff like reworking the Ren'Py dissolve effects, so I have a sinking feeling that DC has him off on side-quests in addition to being the de facto project manager for the posing crew.
 
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How long until this game gets the abandoned tag? It's been a while since I checked in this thread and holy crap no updates still?

This tech update is taking so long that they have to be changing every single thing or making another game entirely. Are there no iterations? No new releases with some new things to showcase those changes?

And where is this game even going? The MC fucked most of all the available female characters, defeated the Big Bad Guys™... so what would be the end game? It's got a nice artstyle and animations, the story is decent and the MC could be a little more developed but it's a good game. If one of the original goes as it was mentioned in this thread is the aforementioned "Get date for prom", then it's a little underwhelming after all this crap he got into, no? Hope they atleast finish the game tho.
 
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MurkyTurtle

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siatugst said:
bro... what the fuckity fuck are you talking about? i am genuinely curious...
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Ren'Py was designed as an engine for visual novels, i.e. linear stories with occasional branching paths. Using it for a sandbox game like Summertime Saga has already taxed the engine to its limits, and the existing build has so many ugly hacks in it (like the pregnancy system) that the current devs have said it some cases it only works by accident. The Tech Update is trying to not only re-engineer the current systems to work properly, but also to prepare it for future new ones like the dating system. A more fully-featured engine like Unity could handle things, but like I said Unity builds don't play as cleanly with Android cross-compatability as Ren'Py does.

Given that the current coder seems to be spinning his wheels for longer and longer periods of time, it doesn't bode well for the project finishing anytime soon.
 
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MurkyTurtle said:
Ren'Py was designed as an engine for visual novels, i.e. linear stories with occasional branching paths. Using it for a sandbox game like Summertime Saga has already taxed the engine to its limits, and the existing build has so many ugly hacks in it (like the pregnancy system) that the current devs have said it some cases it only works by accident. The Tech Update is trying to not only re-engineer the current systems to work properly, but also to prepare it for future new ones like the dating system. A more fully-featured engine like Unity could handle things, but like I said Unity builds don't play as cleanly with Android cross-compatability as Ren'Py does.

Given that the current coder seems to be spinning his wheels for longer and longer periods of time, it doesn't bode well for the project finishing anytime soon.
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I'm not sure I agree with this. Ren'Py is actually fairly well-suited for this game. The dev isn't trying to render anything 3D or even trying to use complicated shaders, all the art is pre-drawn. The sandbox concept works great in Ren'Py if you are using a map that you point and click to travel or clickable parts of interiors to move throughout (which STS does).

With their current assets and gameplay concept, the only thing switching to Unity would accomplish for them is having to write their own infrastructure from scratch. The problem with the coder appears to be that it's just 1 person working sporadically because this game is not their day job. Ren'Py isn't the bottleneck here, and Unity isn't going to provide any advantages over Ren'Py for this style of game.
 
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There is clearly no full commitment, given the tasks' progress inside the tracker. I'd take this as a grain of salt but, DO NOT expect this so-called "Tech" update to be released sometime soon, let alone next year. DarkCookie is a terrible project manager.

If I were you, I'd save the money for a better determined development team. There are plenty.

This can't be justified anymore, so I withdrew Patreon subscription. They could've switched to Unity engine during these years.
 
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You know, I've just put a certain user in my ignore list. I guess I won't be able to read half of the posts written here anymore from now on.
 
Ztiphoon

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dexterblood said:
Lets stop pretending DC is some Kentaro Miura that his style cant be replicated. No doubt some would be able to do even better. Dude needs to hire artists.
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Funny thing, i actually saw his art style in an AI site called "CivitAI", couldnt believe it at first but there it is.
Also RIP Miura, one of the greatest. May you have some amazing drawing sessions with Toriyama up there.
 
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Ztiphoon said:
Funny thing, i actually saw his art style in an AI site called "CivitAI", couldnt believe it at first but there it is.
Also RIP Miura, one of the greatest. May you have some amazing drawing sessions with Toriyama up there.
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Pretty much any art can be replicated.
On "CivitAI" you can also find images in the style of 'van Gogh', Matisse, Renoir, Klimt, HR Giger or 'Matt Groening' and also 'Kentaro Miura'...
So it doesn't surprise me that you can find DC's style there too

... like these

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I hope you enjoy these pictures :)
 
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Ztiphoon said:
Funny thing, i actually saw his art style in an AI site called "CivitAI", couldnt believe it at first but there it is.
Also RIP Miura, one of the greatest. May you have some amazing drawing sessions with Toriyama up there.
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Miura was next level. Its impossible to create his later art style because he started drawing pixel by pixel. Even then the new team is doing a very good job. If they can do it, so can a bunch of artists who can replicate the art style. I just got into Berserk and honestly its a feast for the eyes. I have never seen art so captivating and beautifully drawn.
 
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